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Very good article in latest issue Secrets of Speed and then some...….

There are some new wiring diagrams available on the MTFCI web site.
They cover the 19-27 cars with starters.
These new diagrams show the installation of the reproduction wire harnesses currently available from Model T suppliers.
There are diagrams for each of the wire harnesses as installed on the cars.
There is also a complete diagram for the...

Does anyone have a decent video of removing and installing quick change bands? I’ve never pulled bands without removing the hogs head and my old T was a speedster with a lot of elbow room made the job of changing bands pretty easy. When I rebuilt my ‘23 runabout I installed quick change bands for future band removal and replacement. I want to try...

I have seen a lot of Vaporizers but here's a new one on me
might not be Ford
any idea of what this one is? Bob

Go here: To see lots of photos and short movies, of very early cars, Steam tractors, and motorcycles: This is the Beamish Open Air Museum Steam Fair this weekend in England. There are some Model T's!

This was inside my Runabout I bought recently. Put my hat in place and immediately thought of Steve Jelf! Anyone else have one of these!

My son and I took our first ride of Spring in the 26 touring today. She ran perfect! My boy got a shot of an Amish young man waving his approval!
Note: our car wasn’t upside down! Just can’t get the pic to flip! Lol

I took the old '23 Touring out for the first time this year and it ran wonderfully. My only complaint is the rattle the aluminum cam gear makes while driving. The loudness comes and goes with different driving situations: climbing hills, coasting, accelerating etc. ( I have adjusted/removed rod cap shims as needed to eliminate that as a cause for...

I WOULD LIKE to know who ls going to Luray ,VA May 17-18 ? MEL.

Here are some pics of my hcct. It was given to
Me in pieces by a fellow club member who
Scored a factory made one. I redid some of the
Frame and re wound 3 of the coils using masking
Tape. It is made by the plans that are on the
Board. It works great now I need a meter.
Philip

I have been trying to order a foot throttle kit from birdhaven for over a year and each time am told they are on back order. does anyone know of another source for them?

Hoping the experienced builders can help me out here. I am curious if the boring of the cylinders happens before or after the babbitt mains are poured---or doesn't it matter? I wasn't sure if any of the heat involved in the rebabbitting effects the roundness of the bores.

I am asking because I have a trusted machinist that I have used for 20+...

I have read on the forum that many folks with distributors really like the performance with the ignitor plate installed. So I put one in (Pertronix), along with the recommended carbon plug wires. I followed directions to the letter and have very poor results (it runs very rough). I have a 12 volt coil that requires an external resistor. I tested...

I've found several T Differential housings that seem to be NOS. Does the I.D measurement look correct for a new housing ? There are no grooves or worn areas and some had hand tags attached.

Finished the gas tank with the black walnut saddles, trimmed in stainless steel, and double bead welt. The black speckles are guide coat for the finish sanding, finds imperfections.

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All the Best,

Hank in Tin-A-See

Can you use an earlier hogshead on a 26-27 engine?

I live in a rural Oregon county with a current population of about 7000. It had a population of around 10,000 in 1919.
Here is an account from our local paper on April 3, 1919: ' Sales of automobiles promise to break all records in 1919. Many cars have been bought already, and the season is just getting under way. Rodgers Brothers ordered 200 Ford...

Right now I am using the original Chevrolet valve springs with newer Ford keepers/modern valves. Problem is the spring is not staying center on the keeper, the springs inside diameter is larger then the boss on the keeper. The original rocker arms were not made real strong so do not want to get too aggressive with both open and closed spring...

When did ford stop with white tires on model t

I got this with some other Model T tools and valve tours. I am curious what it’s used for.

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Also is this used for valves?

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Thanks Matt

I just acquired several air friction carburetor pieces of literature. Here are some scans of them ..

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If it was the 1915 runabout Shorty would jump right in, but I had to help her into the 1923 touring.

Hello everyone,

I have to figure out the process of paying, without taking cash if I decide on that special car. I know taking cash is a BIG NO NO, how have you paid and picked up your vehicle(s). I want to see the car in person prior to payment, at the same time, I would want to bring the car home, if I agree to purchase..?

Thanks in advance...

I've thought that recording videos of some of our tours would create some great memorabilia and my new cell phone does a nice job of recording time-lapse videos, but I'm stymied by how to mount it on a Model T. A camera needs to be relatively tight to the glass for best clarity or you'll get side reflections or it sometimes it even wants to focus...

So I have this 27 TT that I am still trying to get running, and I am wondering if it is possible (or feasible) to change the gears in the differential to something lower than the 7.75:1 ratio so the truck would be more driveable. It has a Ruckstell underdrive.

Thank you

I have recently obtained this 1922 Station Wagon. The body is original and the car was restored in the mid 1960's. I remember this vehicle in the local antique auto club when I was young. There is no name on the body as to the manufacturer. It looks a lot like a Martin Parry body, but I am not sure. None of the body irons have MP cast into them,...

I am sure this topic has come up many times, but I have recently acquired an incredibly original brass “Rip Van Winkle” 1916 touring and I am wondering how many 1916s had brass radiators and when Ford finally used up all the brass radiators and switched over to the black radiators?

Hey everyone,

In case you haven't seen - the Museum of American Speed is hosting the 2019 Speedsters Trials and Reunion this year June 19-22! Here are some details on the reunion below. If you would like to register to attend please visit our website to complete the online registration or download the paper form at

Questions? Please email me...

Curious to know about how much should someone expect to pay for a Boyco fluids fender unit?
There is one list on ebay now for over $400, buy it now. It includes mounting bracket and I believe that the water container is rusted through in places on the bottom.
Seems pricey. :?:

Hi, I need to replace four tires on a 1918 Scripps Booth. This car came standard with five Houk wire wheels, 30 x 3 1/2 tires, etc...so, it has a set of Firestones that should be replaced.

I am seeing prices of $200 for a standard tread Firestone vs. $300 for a Non-Skid tread. Of course, the Non-skid tread *looks* interesting, but could someone...

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A.C. Hartman patented a contact for timers in 1923.

I have one, and have never seen another. Anyone else on here have one? Do you or have you ran it?

Does anybody have any factory drawings or specifications for this typed of horn bulb bracket?

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I have repaired and rebuilt this one a couple of times now:

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With the flat bar steel and a single screw, it looks like it would be an easy part...

After researching prior posts, I did not find an answer regarding the two different Firewall Brackets I have pictured here. Both are clearly the 23-27 style with the square bolt holes, but one has the distinct recess in that portion of the bracket that attaches to the firewall. Otherwise they are alike. Can someone point out which would be correct...

I will be in B-52 (the space not the aircraft) re-homing goodies.

Checking, Bob

I had two small cracks one in each windshield,I called Langs they don't handle glass they said have it cut at a local glass Co. So I did installed them both and they car has sat since not even started,went out today and lower window developed a crack just sitting there, must be a place that sells these ready to go these were only beveled on one...

I really don’t need more stuff, but I went to estate sale and at the end I was afraid the scrap yard would next:

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I did research on old forum posts and the yellow type of wheels have been used with regular Model T hubs. Evidently for the rear wheels I will need to have a spacer plate. I would...

Gentlemen:
called the Tech. instructor at the auto. restoration dept. at McPherson College … the swapmeet is on April 13 from 7:00 thru 4:00 ...there are inside as well as outside spaces available … outside spaces are $20 and the inside spaces are $25 … Sander is the contact person … his # is 916-217 4827 … I will be there with my Babbitt bearing...

Thinking about puchasing new cams for the brake and reverse pedals. Any concerns I should be aware of? Ie quality of the pieces, how they fit with original pedals with the usual amount of wear, or other conerns.

Can somebody tell me, please, if and where it's possible to buy replacement early style E & J side-lamp chimney tops :?:

I have a situation where the holes have slightly wallowed out on the door hinge screws. Is there a product that can be applied to create a good tight bond in the holes? DSC08062.JPG DSC08062.JPG

My 1927 T roadster pickup has a 1920 engine/transmission and at low to moderate RPMs it is smooth, but at high RPMs it starts to have lots of vibration under no load or running down the road. What would be the first suspect? I thought maybe the rear main bearing may be worn so I pulled the oil pan. I see no way with out my little 2 year old...

Yesterday I took the hubs out of a very solid set of 30x3.5 wheels. I need to clean and paint them for my TT project. One hub had a split where the hub cap screws on. The other is really nice. They both are wearing original paint. I used an impact to take nuts off and broke all but one hub bolt. going to replace them anyway
The hubs were so tight...

Bob Shirley in his recent post,.... What Happened? It Just Quit ,....talked about fiber timing gears,.....

Now don't mis-understand,.....I am NOT recommending the use of todays fiber timing gears, because in my opinion, they are absolute junque ! However,.....

Here's something that has bothered me for a long time, and I'm thinking that maybe...

I’m taking my custom hay baler to Dearborn on the 23rd of this month; coming home late on the 26th. Thought we’d spend the entire Tuesday afternoon at Piquette and the next 3 days at THF and Greenfield. Is the bus system from the airport manageable or should we rely on cabs? Are any other Forum Friends going there at this time?

Just installed an I Timer. I am now able hand crank my starter equipped T by the first pull. This afternoon did 2 priming pulls went back just turned on the key and she started running. Yesterday went for a 22 mile drive on Bishop's Lodge rd to the Tesuque Market drove like a champ. Just made sure coils were adjusted and plugs gapped and cleaned.

Split brass rivets (aka bifurcated rivets) 3/16 shank diameter, 5/8 shank length (7/16 work thickness + 3/16 clinch allowance), 5/16 or 3/8 truss or oval head diameter.
Looked everywhere including internet.
Does anyone know where these rivets may be purchased?
Model T suppliers sell semi tubular rivets and also too short.

A friend of mine Is building a TT. He has to replace the wood. Does anyone supply a wood top kit?? Don

The history; a low use, 3-28-15 motor sat in a barn without the 4 main in the motor and rats lived in the pan. Spent over a year off an on, on the rebuild. New or re-ground everything. The only changes, went to high compression pistons, adjustable lifters, stainless valves and added starter so it got a rebuilt coil ring and recharged magnets. The...

Have a look at BUSES in
Some interesting machines there to see :-)

I have a question about a Ford “Y” type spare tire carrier that I have. I am trying to figure out if it is for a 30x3 1/2” rim or for a 21” rim.

I know the easiest thing to do would be to try and mount a rim on it, but unfortunately I just got rid of my last set of demountables so I don’t have any right now for a size reference.

Does anyone...

When was the Holley H-1 carburetor discontinued and the Holley S carburetor implemented? From what I've read, the H-1 was used in 1912, and the S in 1913. I'm wondering if there's any documentation as to when the transition actually took place. I currently run an S on my '13, built roughly in October of 1912. I have a restored H-1 I could use.
Any...

I am looking for a couple of examples of original K.R. Wilson W-34 Differential Holding Plates. In particular I am looking for details of the mounting holes where they would mount to the bench top. I have only been able to find a couple of photos (and catalog illustrations) but none focusing on what I am looking for. I am hoping that one or two...

I have a very nice early block with original standard lifters. I have a new set of adjustable lifters that are also marked std. How much clearance should I have using the new lifters? Or would it be best to go to the next size using the proper reamer? Thanks, John

Whenever the subject of fuel comes up there are comments to the effect that ethanol gas quickly goes bad and/or wreaks havoc on carburetors. I can cite one personal experience with the latter. To get my log splitter working, I had to dismantle the aluminum carburetor and clean out the residue after it sat for a few months.

Yesterday I started my...

After days and days of rain it’s 72 degrees and sunny in Santa Rosa CA today and I couldn’t resist going for a spin. How many coffee shops can I find around town? Good thing I switched to decaf...
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These came with the tack rail set for my 24 Touring.

They seem to line up with holes associated with the top pivots, but I can't figure out exactly where they go.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Another dumb question from Tenn. If I replace the magnets with oil slingers do I remove the coils too?

1915 T, getting knock when engine cold, just at thrust and drag power setting and after engine gets hot, no knock.. Is this a sign of center main bearing??
Wilf

1) most trailers have smooth wood floors. Is it a good idea to put some kind of non-skid where the tires ride to reduce the tendency of the car to slide to one side or the other? 2) Once the car is positioned and the straps tightened, should the hand brake be set or should you leave the car in neutral, held in place only by the straps?

So on another thread these have been discussed and also recently on other threads.
My question; Is there a market for a run of perhaps 50 of these? Probably made from aluminum. In this case I have a good pair to design from. Perhaps you have noticed that I sometimes enjoy the “Brain Teaser” aspect of some of these things

I need someone who can grind a Model T crankshaft in N. California. The guy who did my last one over 10 years ago is no longer in business. I hope to find someone who indexes off the flange, not the third main. If none are N. California, I suppose I can send it to someone within the USA who grinds a T crank correctly.
Most I've used do not index...

I have a 1927 T coupe. I have 1 sill plate. The plate is 9.75 long and 1.5 wide. I'm either looking for another to match or a pair of to replace them both.

The Blue 1911 T that sold on the forum 16,500 is how on ebay bidding at 22,100 It will be interesting to see how high it goes

Can a person make adapters from aluminum for 5 and 6 hole T hubs to adapt to Model A wheels? How thick would they be? Do A wheels need support towards the outer end of the center? I have round stock that I could use. My driving miles would be at a very basic minimum.

Just when things were going so well....... Today I started cleaning up my front wheels in preparation for painting and varnishing. They are Hayes wheels with wood spokes and steel felloes. The spokes are tight, the wood in good condition with one exception. One of the spokes has a hairline crack that starts somewhere under the hub flange and...

Recently, I sent my wheels off to be repoked by Noah Stutzman. Was wondering about the best way to seal them when I get them back. While I know that the purist way is to paint them since they came from the factory that way, I'd rather stain them a walnut color and use sealer. What's the best way to go about that?

Continuing with the brakes, I thought I should do the brakes for the cars as well.

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I'm not sure you can even get cast iron shoes without linings as Ford made them. Since they were what came on the car originally, that's why they're on the drawing and the lined shoes are noted as accessory styles.

As for the cam...

This is supposedly a NOS, late style, rolled grip starting crank with Ford script - question; has anyone seen this type of rolled grip ? I've cranked & handled dozens & dozens of the later style hand cranks but have never seen one like this !!! Original Smith - input ?

I hijacked the photo off Ebay & apologize for any improprieties !

I don't know where I've been and why I've never seen it until now, but I just today discovered the approximate 5/8 size Fordson tractor that Henry built/had built for his grandchildren. It uses a Model T engine and rearend. Other parts are one-off for the build . I love it I would love to do the same for my three grandsons! I would also love to...

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It looks like an off shoot of auto polo. I hadn't heard of it before.

Wife is grabbing us a sandwich and we are going to visit mom at the nursing home. About a half hour drive in the modern car...so I think an hour of back roads for the T. She should be surprised ! :D
This will be 3-4 times farther than I have ever ventured from home.
I feel confident, but I gots tools and extra parts !! :lol:

I am building a hand crank coil tester. I have 2 coil rings both check out good
Using a battery charger and hacksaw blade as well as a compass. Magnets are
Charged
I can only get 3 volts out if it any advice?

According to the serial number on the block and frame of my car, it was made on 12/6/1926.
Is there any way of finding out when and where the body was made by the serial number stamped on it?
Is it 158702B or 158/02B ?

My centerdoor left door latch has a broken return spring. I have been unsuccessful in coming up with some type of fix. I am hoping that someone on the forum has BTDT and can offer up a solution. TIA

A few months ago, the starter motor burned out on my 1925 Ford Model T, so in this video I show you how to properly remove and replace the starter motor on your own Model T (1919-1927). Earlier Model T's did not come with a starter motor and relied solely on muscle power to start them! Enjoy the video...

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These are the bulbs Dave Hanlon mentioned and I have purchased,
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Here are 2 photos with the warm white on the right. I have not driven with them yet, but
thought you might like to see the comparison.
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The difference is much more noticeable in person.

Wonder which pair the other driver coming towards me would like to...

Split hoods for side deflecting headers can be a pain and causes other issues as fatigue etc.

Simple cure, Blade and Scabbier since the bottom is fixed and the hood will be held by 3 leather straps. Represented by the red lines.

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All the Best,

Hank in Tin-A-See

I have been restoring a KR Wilson pan jig for the last month. I am basically finished with the restoration. I have it as close to original specs as I can get it with my tooling. Now I plan on straightening the pan for the speedster project and then take the pan to another known to be good pan jig to compare my finished product to the known jig. If...

I am rebuilding “the ends” of The Basket Case, found that front end has been, hmm, “customized”! Wondering What is the proper length of each of the individual leaf springs? I believe 7 is the correct number, looking for length/configuration, how many leafs within clips?

Do the retaining bolts for the spring clips go above or below the spring? I have seen both.

Are there multiple types of spring clips? With and without locating tabs. I recently disassembled a 24 front spring and found the clips had locating tabs while the corresponding spring leaf did not have locating holes as I had expected.

Here are four shots of the back seat cushion spring wood.

As it faces you, the spring attached to the opposite side of the wood (where the vacuum is), with the upholstery material wrapping down the front, back and sides of the spring and wood, and being nailed to the wood with the spring sandwiched inside.

After that was done, a piece of cloth...

So I have always dreamed of owning an 11 Touring, a good one, Stynoski winner. Alas a real one its not in the budget. To compensate, I decided to just make my own...a little day late April's fools day trick. 37802.jpeg

Who makes a top for 1913 roadster companys seem to stop at 1914 glenn of northport

I want to silver solder a couple of mounting bolts to the back of the chrome-plated brass FORD script I bought to mount on my radiator. I'm planning on grinding off the chrome in the spots where I want the bolts and using a micro-torch to do the soldering. My question is, am I likely to discolor the chrome on the opposite side or have others done...

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26-27's rear brakes were quite a bit different from the earlier years, in that there is no shoe bolt, one spring and the shoe itself is more like a band than a shoe and the linings are a single piece that wraps round the shoe. And since the design of this shoe is a one piece lining more of the shoe expands upon the drum, increasing the emergency...

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Do you think that the following would work? Put O-rings on the clutch-operating shaft in the hogshead, with washers and light springs to hold them against the casing. Would it be necessary to make washers with lips on to contain the O-rings? See attached sketch. Regards, Colin.

I have a leaky petcock at the sediment bowl. It is acting the same way as the petcock at the radiator. I replaced the radiator petcock and the leak stopped. I am going to order a new petcock from Lang's. Is there anything different I should know about replacing the gas petcock as opposed to the radiator? Thanks in advance for any help.

Years ago I saw some shots of Hap 1915s cut off touring and never thought I'd have my own.

Now I have a 1915 cut down touring, but can't find some good photos of Haps car for inspiration. Does anyone have photos of early cut down tourings they could share? Or better yet, threads that describe similar cars?

Thank you in advance.