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On a recent post photos were posted of a balanced brake drum. Because this drum is bolted directly to the driven plate, I asked if any material was removed from the driven plate to help in the balance.
Here is what was behind the question.
This drven plate casting was poorly aligned in the fixture for machining and appeared to be machined way off...

C675411A-1864-4AEC-9683-4631084A22FB.jpeg Trying to get at least .045-.050 babbitt In the rod. Ending with 1.350 rough bore. Cut from .015 to .025. Balance will be addressed after they are poured and cut. Thoughts?

After some research & consequent discussions in the Forum, I am beginning to think that the Town Car being restored by us, is not a true 1916. I believe the last of the Town cars were manufactured in 1918. The Town car here has a bonnet hood profile and engine which corresponds to post 1922. Therefore, there were some modifications made by someone...

I have two of these, not NOS, but very early take-offs as they appear unused but have mounting marks Any idea what year and model ? Thanks : Bruce

Well, Erik Barrett certainly saved the day. He’s got a completely rebuilt 27 trans we’re putting in the car right now. And he had a 280 cam just lying around that I’m putting to good use. And he’s touchingly up the valve seats.

The tranny is perfect. All new bushings, new clutch, new ring gear etc. And the drums have much more material than mine...

I am restoring a very correct 15 roadster an need to know what the correct nuts and bolts that were used from the factory. And also if the nuts are used on the bracket side or behind the wood frame. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks Nick

I’m starting to think about replacing my seat covers on the ‘23 runabout. I love the fact that my car has original upholstery but I drive it so much that it’s not going to survive much longer. So, I’m buying a new seat bottom spring and am thinking of buying the seat cushion kit from Langs. Anyone out there used their kit and have opinions. I made...

Peter and the Fawcett group are working away on our racer. Next up, install 3:1 gears and painting. Below are fabricated seat buckets:

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Extended clutch/low pedal:

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Lengthened steering column and false tank hiding longer engine block:

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Hi Guys, I have a friend in the office that has been documenting the family tree and just got a new picture to work from with his great great grandfather in a car and he is wondering if we can help ID the car and year? All help is appreciated.

Howdy All, can anyone state unequivocally the type machine screws for the inside door latches and square panel (into the D nuts). Thank you
george

The oil pan petcocks on my car do not get tight until they are turned so that the handle is facing inward towards the pan. This makes it very difficult to open the petcocks to check the oil level. If I stop turning them so that they’re facing out, they are only snug, and I worry that they’ll come out while I’m driving or leak.

Is this normal or...

With the blackboard on the rear wall I thought this might be a mechanics school or even a design department. The first car could be a 1909 T I think. Are those one piece spindles? Also the steering spider has been mounted upside down.
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The car I just bought had been setting for 20 some years, when it went into a museum status it had a fresh engine and transmission, I am led to believe that the brake lever was left in the down mode in high gear which I think could have caused the clutch disc to stick together? After starting the car I had low band and after letting clutch out no...

At the end of the last driving season, I installed the 7-wire turn signal kit that the vendors carry. I'm sure everything is wired correctly, but they hyper-flash. I did tap the power from the back of the key switch, so the flasher is near the coil box on the dash. The bulbs are 6 volt incandescent. Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting? Is...

Disaster hath ensued. We had EVERYTHING ready to go together on my 26 engine tonight and tragedy struck in the form of a drive plate bolt hole breaking out of the brake drum.😭 now to take it ALL back apart to find a replacement. It was the third bolt I started to tighten down and then it suddenly went loose. Just my freekin luck. It was all going...

Should there be cotter pins in the engine oil pan bolts? The bolts on my 11 are installed from the bottom with the castle nut on top but there are no cotter pins installed. Thanks, Art

Wednesday I paid a visit to Denny Newman here in Michigan and had the front axle rehabilitated. It was straightened, top bushings and one thread insert in added with a Steven's tool, along with new brass bushings in the spindles. We also decided to replace the spring and spring perch bushings and the shackles themselves. The shackles showed...

I went to do a spring service on my '27 Touring. When I unscrewed the plug to check the differential grease, about half a quart of 'oil' flowed out. This must be engine oil. What seal has failed, and how do I fix this? Thanks.

If Tiger can take a worn out body and rebuild it into a winner, so can you with that extra Model T Ford lurking in back of your garage or even out side. It takes time and excellent care, but that old T can shine on the meet course. Take a swing at it and hit the ball long and score. My Model T is 108 years old, but it's heart is strong and it...

What would be the most likely suspected problem in a T that recently had a noticeable loss in top end power under load going up hills? This was not previously a problem. Stock setup, no fuel filters, Holley NH carb. The engine sounds good and smooth but simply seems to slow down at top end. :roll:

Dirty plugs? Clogged carb jet? Dirty/blocked...

Hello all,
I bought a 1926 Touring last fall and have been working on it ever since. I've been working on Fords for nearly 40 years and own 9 cars and a 1952 Farmall H so am constantly working on something in the garage. For now at least, the T is staying somewhat in it's patina-ed look as I fix mechanicals.

Anyway, On one of my headlight rims on...

I have read to run 1 gauge wire for my 6 volt system. However, 1 gauge is tough to find locally. I can find 2 gauge easy enough. Is anyone running 2 gauge? How does it work for you? I have been running 4 gauge, but the starter still lacks. The starter has been rebuilt. Thanks

I have been asked when did Hayes commence manufacturing the accessory Wire Wheels. I suspect
It was prior to the introduction of the starter motor era as examples of the non demountable
Wheels have been seen.
Thanks in advance
Alan in Western Australia

I want to get safety glass put in my windshield. Thought I would take the entire thing to the glass shop. It looks like there are only the two bolts on each side of the windshield frame that hold it onto the car. Is that correct? Thanks in advance

John

I was careful not to disturb stuff on the inside.
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The transmission repair I cobbled together worked OK, but while everything is apart for some engine work I should put in a better brake drum. So I've been going through drums and drive plates to see if I have any that are good enough to use. Matching up a drum and a drive plate is complicated by changes over the years.

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Went out for a 55 mile drive in the country today. Was cruising steadily at 40 mph and at one point the engine started sputtering. I pulled over and found the carburetor was flooded and leaking like crazy. I turned off the valve at the gas petcock and figured there was something up with the float and valve in the carb. So I removed the cover and...

Is the Lurray Virginia T swap meet worth the visit? :?

Very good article in latest issue Secrets of Speed and then some...….

There are some new wiring diagrams available on the MTFCI web site.
They cover the 19-27 cars with starters.
These new diagrams show the installation of the reproduction wire harnesses currently available from Model T suppliers.
There are diagrams for each of the wire harnesses as installed on the cars.
There is also a complete diagram for the...

Does anyone have a decent video of removing and installing quick change bands? I’ve never pulled bands without removing the hogs head and my old T was a speedster with a lot of elbow room made the job of changing bands pretty easy. When I rebuilt my ‘23 runabout I installed quick change bands for future band removal and replacement. I want to try...

I have seen a lot of Vaporizers but here's a new one on me
might not be Ford
any idea of what this one is? Bob

Go here: To see lots of photos and short movies, of very early cars, Steam tractors, and motorcycles: This is the Beamish Open Air Museum Steam Fair this weekend in England. There are some Model T's!

This was inside my Runabout I bought recently. Put my hat in place and immediately thought of Steve Jelf! Anyone else have one of these!

My son and I took our first ride of Spring in the 26 touring today. She ran perfect! My boy got a shot of an Amish young man waving his approval!
Note: our car wasn’t upside down! Just can’t get the pic to flip! Lol

I took the old '23 Touring out for the first time this year and it ran wonderfully. My only complaint is the rattle the aluminum cam gear makes while driving. The loudness comes and goes with different driving situations: climbing hills, coasting, accelerating etc. ( I have adjusted/removed rod cap shims as needed to eliminate that as a cause for...

I WOULD LIKE to know who ls going to Luray ,VA May 17-18 ? MEL.

Here are some pics of my hcct. It was given to
Me in pieces by a fellow club member who
Scored a factory made one. I redid some of the
Frame and re wound 3 of the coils using masking
Tape. It is made by the plans that are on the
Board. It works great now I need a meter.
Philip

I have been trying to order a foot throttle kit from birdhaven for over a year and each time am told they are on back order. does anyone know of another source for them?

Hoping the experienced builders can help me out here. I am curious if the boring of the cylinders happens before or after the babbitt mains are poured---or doesn't it matter? I wasn't sure if any of the heat involved in the rebabbitting effects the roundness of the bores.

I am asking because I have a trusted machinist that I have used for 20+...

I have read on the forum that many folks with distributors really like the performance with the ignitor plate installed. So I put one in (Pertronix), along with the recommended carbon plug wires. I followed directions to the letter and have very poor results (it runs very rough). I have a 12 volt coil that requires an external resistor. I tested...

I've found several T Differential housings that seem to be NOS. Does the I.D measurement look correct for a new housing ? There are no grooves or worn areas and some had hand tags attached.

Finished the gas tank with the black walnut saddles, trimmed in stainless steel, and double bead welt. The black speckles are guide coat for the finish sanding, finds imperfections.

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All the Best,

Hank in Tin-A-See

Can you use an earlier hogshead on a 26-27 engine?

I live in a rural Oregon county with a current population of about 7000. It had a population of around 10,000 in 1919.
Here is an account from our local paper on April 3, 1919: ' Sales of automobiles promise to break all records in 1919. Many cars have been bought already, and the season is just getting under way. Rodgers Brothers ordered 200 Ford...

Right now I am using the original Chevrolet valve springs with newer Ford keepers/modern valves. Problem is the spring is not staying center on the keeper, the springs inside diameter is larger then the boss on the keeper. The original rocker arms were not made real strong so do not want to get too aggressive with both open and closed spring...

When did ford stop with white tires on model t

I got this with some other Model T tools and valve tours. I am curious what it’s used for.

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Also is this used for valves?

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Thanks Matt

I just acquired several air friction carburetor pieces of literature. Here are some scans of them ..

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If it was the 1915 runabout Shorty would jump right in, but I had to help her into the 1923 touring.

Hello everyone,

I have to figure out the process of paying, without taking cash if I decide on that special car. I know taking cash is a BIG NO NO, how have you paid and picked up your vehicle(s). I want to see the car in person prior to payment, at the same time, I would want to bring the car home, if I agree to purchase..?

Thanks in advance...

I've thought that recording videos of some of our tours would create some great memorabilia and my new cell phone does a nice job of recording time-lapse videos, but I'm stymied by how to mount it on a Model T. A camera needs to be relatively tight to the glass for best clarity or you'll get side reflections or it sometimes it even wants to focus...

So I have this 27 TT that I am still trying to get running, and I am wondering if it is possible (or feasible) to change the gears in the differential to something lower than the 7.75:1 ratio so the truck would be more driveable. It has a Ruckstell underdrive.

Thank you

I have recently obtained this 1922 Station Wagon. The body is original and the car was restored in the mid 1960's. I remember this vehicle in the local antique auto club when I was young. There is no name on the body as to the manufacturer. It looks a lot like a Martin Parry body, but I am not sure. None of the body irons have MP cast into them,...

I am sure this topic has come up many times, but I have recently acquired an incredibly original brass “Rip Van Winkle” 1916 touring and I am wondering how many 1916s had brass radiators and when Ford finally used up all the brass radiators and switched over to the black radiators?

Hey everyone,

In case you haven't seen - the Museum of American Speed is hosting the 2019 Speedsters Trials and Reunion this year June 19-22! Here are some details on the reunion below. If you would like to register to attend please visit our website to complete the online registration or download the paper form at

Questions? Please email me...

Curious to know about how much should someone expect to pay for a Boyco fluids fender unit?
There is one list on ebay now for over $400, buy it now. It includes mounting bracket and I believe that the water container is rusted through in places on the bottom.
Seems pricey. :?:

Hi, I need to replace four tires on a 1918 Scripps Booth. This car came standard with five Houk wire wheels, 30 x 3 1/2 tires, etc...so, it has a set of Firestones that should be replaced.

I am seeing prices of $200 for a standard tread Firestone vs. $300 for a Non-Skid tread. Of course, the Non-skid tread *looks* interesting, but could someone...

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A.C. Hartman patented a contact for timers in 1923.

I have one, and have never seen another. Anyone else on here have one? Do you or have you ran it?

Does anybody have any factory drawings or specifications for this typed of horn bulb bracket?

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I have repaired and rebuilt this one a couple of times now:

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With the flat bar steel and a single screw, it looks like it would be an easy part...

After researching prior posts, I did not find an answer regarding the two different Firewall Brackets I have pictured here. Both are clearly the 23-27 style with the square bolt holes, but one has the distinct recess in that portion of the bracket that attaches to the firewall. Otherwise they are alike. Can someone point out which would be correct...

I will be in B-52 (the space not the aircraft) re-homing goodies.

Checking, Bob

I had two small cracks one in each windshield,I called Langs they don't handle glass they said have it cut at a local glass Co. So I did installed them both and they car has sat since not even started,went out today and lower window developed a crack just sitting there, must be a place that sells these ready to go these were only beveled on one...

I really don’t need more stuff, but I went to estate sale and at the end I was afraid the scrap yard would next:

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I did research on old forum posts and the yellow type of wheels have been used with regular Model T hubs. Evidently for the rear wheels I will need to have a spacer plate. I would...

Gentlemen:
called the Tech. instructor at the auto. restoration dept. at McPherson College … the swapmeet is on April 13 from 7:00 thru 4:00 ...there are inside as well as outside spaces available … outside spaces are $20 and the inside spaces are $25 … Sander is the contact person … his # is 916-217 4827 … I will be there with my Babbitt bearing...

Thinking about puchasing new cams for the brake and reverse pedals. Any concerns I should be aware of? Ie quality of the pieces, how they fit with original pedals with the usual amount of wear, or other conerns.

Can somebody tell me, please, if and where it's possible to buy replacement early style E & J side-lamp chimney tops :?:

I have a situation where the holes have slightly wallowed out on the door hinge screws. Is there a product that can be applied to create a good tight bond in the holes? DSC08062.JPG DSC08062.JPG

My 1927 T roadster pickup has a 1920 engine/transmission and at low to moderate RPMs it is smooth, but at high RPMs it starts to have lots of vibration under no load or running down the road. What would be the first suspect? I thought maybe the rear main bearing may be worn so I pulled the oil pan. I see no way with out my little 2 year old...

Yesterday I took the hubs out of a very solid set of 30x3.5 wheels. I need to clean and paint them for my TT project. One hub had a split where the hub cap screws on. The other is really nice. They both are wearing original paint. I used an impact to take nuts off and broke all but one hub bolt. going to replace them anyway
The hubs were so tight...

Bob Shirley in his recent post,.... What Happened? It Just Quit ,....talked about fiber timing gears,.....

Now don't mis-understand,.....I am NOT recommending the use of todays fiber timing gears, because in my opinion, they are absolute junque ! However,.....

Here's something that has bothered me for a long time, and I'm thinking that maybe...

I’m taking my custom hay baler to Dearborn on the 23rd of this month; coming home late on the 26th. Thought we’d spend the entire Tuesday afternoon at Piquette and the next 3 days at THF and Greenfield. Is the bus system from the airport manageable or should we rely on cabs? Are any other Forum Friends going there at this time?

Just installed an I Timer. I am now able hand crank my starter equipped T by the first pull. This afternoon did 2 priming pulls went back just turned on the key and she started running. Yesterday went for a 22 mile drive on Bishop's Lodge rd to the Tesuque Market drove like a champ. Just made sure coils were adjusted and plugs gapped and cleaned.

Split brass rivets (aka bifurcated rivets) 3/16 shank diameter, 5/8 shank length (7/16 work thickness + 3/16 clinch allowance), 5/16 or 3/8 truss or oval head diameter.
Looked everywhere including internet.
Does anyone know where these rivets may be purchased?
Model T suppliers sell semi tubular rivets and also too short.

A friend of mine Is building a TT. He has to replace the wood. Does anyone supply a wood top kit?? Don

The history; a low use, 3-28-15 motor sat in a barn without the 4 main in the motor and rats lived in the pan. Spent over a year off an on, on the rebuild. New or re-ground everything. The only changes, went to high compression pistons, adjustable lifters, stainless valves and added starter so it got a rebuilt coil ring and recharged magnets. The...

Have a look at BUSES in
Some interesting machines there to see :-)

I have a question about a Ford “Y” type spare tire carrier that I have. I am trying to figure out if it is for a 30x3 1/2” rim or for a 21” rim.

I know the easiest thing to do would be to try and mount a rim on it, but unfortunately I just got rid of my last set of demountables so I don’t have any right now for a size reference.

Does anyone...

When was the Holley H-1 carburetor discontinued and the Holley S carburetor implemented? From what I've read, the H-1 was used in 1912, and the S in 1913. I'm wondering if there's any documentation as to when the transition actually took place. I currently run an S on my '13, built roughly in October of 1912. I have a restored H-1 I could use.
Any...

I am looking for a couple of examples of original K.R. Wilson W-34 Differential Holding Plates. In particular I am looking for details of the mounting holes where they would mount to the bench top. I have only been able to find a couple of photos (and catalog illustrations) but none focusing on what I am looking for. I am hoping that one or two...

I have a very nice early block with original standard lifters. I have a new set of adjustable lifters that are also marked std. How much clearance should I have using the new lifters? Or would it be best to go to the next size using the proper reamer? Thanks, John

Whenever the subject of fuel comes up there are comments to the effect that ethanol gas quickly goes bad and/or wreaks havoc on carburetors. I can cite one personal experience with the latter. To get my log splitter working, I had to dismantle the aluminum carburetor and clean out the residue after it sat for a few months.

Yesterday I started my...

After days and days of rain it’s 72 degrees and sunny in Santa Rosa CA today and I couldn’t resist going for a spin. How many coffee shops can I find around town? Good thing I switched to decaf...
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These came with the tack rail set for my 24 Touring.

They seem to line up with holes associated with the top pivots, but I can't figure out exactly where they go.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Another dumb question from Tenn. If I replace the magnets with oil slingers do I remove the coils too?

1915 T, getting knock when engine cold, just at thrust and drag power setting and after engine gets hot, no knock.. Is this a sign of center main bearing??
Wilf

1) most trailers have smooth wood floors. Is it a good idea to put some kind of non-skid where the tires ride to reduce the tendency of the car to slide to one side or the other? 2) Once the car is positioned and the straps tightened, should the hand brake be set or should you leave the car in neutral, held in place only by the straps?

So on another thread these have been discussed and also recently on other threads.
My question; Is there a market for a run of perhaps 50 of these? Probably made from aluminum. In this case I have a good pair to design from. Perhaps you have noticed that I sometimes enjoy the “Brain Teaser” aspect of some of these things

I need someone who can grind a Model T crankshaft in N. California. The guy who did my last one over 10 years ago is no longer in business. I hope to find someone who indexes off the flange, not the third main. If none are N. California, I suppose I can send it to someone within the USA who grinds a T crank correctly.
Most I've used do not index...

I have a 1927 T coupe. I have 1 sill plate. The plate is 9.75 long and 1.5 wide. I'm either looking for another to match or a pair of to replace them both.

The Blue 1911 T that sold on the forum 16,500 is how on ebay bidding at 22,100 It will be interesting to see how high it goes