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Are you permitted to drive your own T in Greenfield Village? Is that only during the once a year festival parade?
You can drive your T to and from the village before and after the OCF, and all over the village during both days (Saturday and Sunday) of the event. The parade (Pass in Review) is at 1:00 PM Saturday, and you can drive your car in it...

John:
sent out more flyers this week to 4 customers , including to Sweden... we should mention this meet when we purchase from our vendors and suggest thaty they have a spot at this meet ... also i will contact the Dodge Brothers club and AACA about listing this on their calendars ... always an optimist Gene French

LOL I have been on both sides of this! Got lucky or missed by that much (holding 2 fingers together about an 1/8th of an inch apart)

Mark, I've been on both sides, too. I got a 26-27 Stoplight with license plate bracket that needed no restoring for $50.00. When I saw this head on local Facebook, seller said make offer. I would have loved to...

I run synthetic oil in everything I own and never had an engine problem. I have a 17 year old Craftsman riding mower that I mow and blow snow with and even after 17 seasons it does not burn a drop of oil. My model A and Model T seem happy with synthetic oil also.

Leather washers- refer to this post:

I don't know if leather washers were used all the way through the 1922 model year but I presume they would be correct for your 1914 roadster.

I have an unrestored 1917 roadster and I removed trunk in order to straighten out the sheet metal and there were no leather washers. I also have an NOS or early...

Early this year, I had a similar problem with my 23 touring. I just could not keep the car in the middle of the lane. Everything looked good until I noticed that the steering column box to the frame was loose. The mounting bolts were pinned but loose. The wood must have shrank. The bolts were tightened and pinned. Now the car steers like it...

Been going since 1980. You better hurry. Times they are a changing.

RW - the Z is called a high compression head but it's only a slight increase. The chamber design should result in more efficiency and as you pointed out, increase the compression ratio to around 6. Here is info on the Z

Another big performance improvement is to install a Scott Conger full-flow valve in your NH. There are discussions about it...

Great commentary Wayne !
Thing is, acetylene lamps (and oxy-acetylene welding) were fairly new technology, only something like 20 years old in 1915. The magneto powered electric headlamps were pretty sketchy, while, if you really had to rely on them for a lot of night driving over bad roads, acetylene was dependable and very bright. I recall...

MAN! Just watching that made my joints hurt!

Thanks to everyone who responded! My grandson will be moving there in a couple of weeks with a new job. I'll let him know cause he's very interested in Model T's. Nice car,\!! Jim and another in the garage!

One time my wife and I were in Colorado. We saw a very small cloud over the highway. The car in front of us was a convertible with the top down. It got rained on but we didn't get any rain. Clouds are funny that way.
Norm

Apple cider vinegar I feel is better than just vinegar. Works really well on rust. Soak for a day and wire brush it off, then a very light coat of oil to prevent flash rust. I've been using it for years. Also try electrolysis. There are lots of videos online on how to do that. I've also used it for a long time on larger parts. Removes all rust...

About the double plates in photo #5; could they be dealer plates, that would make sense...

The issue with the early heavy rods is that it takes a heap more babbitt to re-build, making the bearing thick compared to the better machining of the later rods.

Tim,

I don't believe I've ever seen a newly manufactured clutch/brake pedal extension. Just old ones from the era.

Ooops! I lied :oops: ... Here are some new ones:

Well I won't see you at OCF because I can't go. I won't see you at my place because you won't be there. That is a bummer Steve.

According to Phil’s website, it’s a 1911 with fore doors that were retrofitted, rather crudely, to the the car. However, the car was built in November of 1911, so by Ford's records, it's a 1912.

Great seeing and speaking with you again Tom. Yes, it was a great tour. Chillicothe is very nice town. I've driven through it several times, on the way to past Jamborees, but never noticed the very vibrant business district, crammed with nicely restored vintage store fronts and buildings. Also, some beautiful old homes! What a nice town!

The...

Thanks Paul, looks like you had a great day,

Yea John, but the chamber depth on a real BBR is well under 1 deep..........

I believe just the driveshaft was held in a vice, and the tool used on the sleeve on the bare driveshaft. The tool yielded before the sleeve would let go.
Allan from down under.

Way too small for a railroad locomotive. Im thinking a boat might be a good guess

You say you already have them?? I would not hesitate to go ahead and insall them. The AC are a good system especially for an early car. One thing you need to consider just as much a rain once in awhile is the ADDED Safety factor!! If you should break anything from the end of the crankshaft to the rear wheel You will Not have much braking except...

Rob. Quick question on the material in the pictures on your original post. I need to redo the front bottom on my 15 Touring, and that material is what I'm looking for. What is the material called (I know it is vinyl, but is there a name for the texture) and where did you obtain it? I have looked into a number of the T suppliers and find nothing....

Thanks Richard for photo rotation. Photo shows Wife's Uncle after restoration ? driving the car. It seems to have the larger brake drums. 26 /27 I don't know the year of the wheels. I doubt he would have had them changed. tool box and carrier were not repainted which seems odd. Its a pig in a poke long shot that someone still with us will remember...

I would never put such a plate on a car that didn't have one originally. It's kind of like those plates that say my car is 100 years old! Anyone with very basic math skills can figure that one out.

Hap,

There are two blogs.

army30th.wixsite.com/centerdoor

army30th.wixiste.com/centerdoor-ii

My body is not indented at the bottom front quarter and neither is my friend’s car.

Other measurements have come from cars that have the indent but those measurements are for body attachment locations and width between the body sills which match...

Hey Tom!

Glad to see that frame get put to good use!

Brassworks really packs a radiator well. Literally surrounded by that expanding foam stuff within plastic bag material to keep it from infiltrating the fins. Likely no better way to pack a rad. But if within a day's drive I totally agree with Norm.

It should be loose enough for the ball to rotate freely in the socket but tight enough that it will not move up and down. There should be some grease in the ball joint. It is quite common for the cap or the socket in the crankcase to be worn or the ball worn down. So be sure to check and correct these things.
Norm

Thanks very much!

I installed a red rubber gasket sheet per the base, to protect running board finish. Three bolt Brown generator bosses otherwise contact the board outer raised edges. Im sure this is not original, but you have to go looking for it, so not so butt ugly.
Scott

Tim, it might be time to do a couple of checks. If you have way more than 1 1/2 free play in the pedal it may be time to pay some attention to the pedal ramps. Otherwise, it may be beneficial to heat up the low pedal and drag it back a bit. it may well have been bent some in years of prior service. Both these conditions are sometimes worked around...

Attached a link to an earlier post. A quick fix is to wrap a few turns of cord around the steering shaft where the throttle & spark rods are exposed. I used 550 cord (parachute line), wrapped six turns around the shaft and pulled it tight.8

Throttle clamp.pdf yOn my 26 the notches are long ago worn off. Some channel locks on the quadrant with a...

Frank, thanks for the lead!

I don't trust that company or the other one enough to use them.

I don't see why I was not sent the correct battery with the directions, as the Amazon ad said I would be buying either.

It was right next to the loo Maurice.

Allan from down under.

Jerry, the wheel /spiggot is fitted first without the key. Then the grub screw is tightened to hold it in place, before removing the wheel to fit the key. Mine are floating hubs, not safety hubs.

Allan from down under.

Back in the 1970's when I was still working, we grew some watermelons in the yard. I had so many, I took a few to the office to give to anyone who wanted them. We had a black man who worked there who took two of them. One of other employees, made comments about it. He got in trouble because of racial remarks. That T in the picture above, looks...

Vaporizer is correct on the one with the flange
if the other has 2 holes at the end it is also vaporizer different year, Bob

thanks Andrew. I know Tracy and Jeff well. I will contact them.

You can use an NH throttle shaft and plate in an L4. Brass one uses the long arms. The choke shaft is larger diameter and the lever part is different, choke plate is larger.

For those that do not know him, which likely is most people in the model T world, Varun is very well known in high end and early automobile collecting circles as an expert in identifying some of the most obscure cars from the early days of the automobile. I never met him, but did know a few collectors years ago that did know him. In the recent few...

Most mirror mounts for closed cars of the era used what looks like a toilet paper roll holder & utilizing the common open car mirror - I fabricated this mount.

A closer look

Thanks, folks. Wayne, I know how it goes about too many projects. I have restored 7 Model A's and T's, and each one gets a little better in quality. I had two Model A's that were unrestored as of course I planned to get to them , but time passes by too quickly. Now I am 68 and finding I have to pick my battles, I can't do everything. So I sold the...

See this thread for more examples of this guy trying to scam forum members:

He's been banned. Problem solved.

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1910 - 1911 Pierce-Racine/ Case 30Hp Fore-Door Torpedo

Manufacturer :
1904 - 1910 Pierce Engine Co. - Racine, Wisconsin.
1910 - 1927 J.I. Case Threshing Machine Co.

Tail lamp appears to be a stock Ford electric - bracket apparently some aftermarket accessory - WAG !

Just happy to know that you are okay!

Kerry (Frank v E) hits the main point. The style change made at that point is often debated about the year model of cars made in the latter part of 1923. And, the coupe is the worst of the lot because of its significant and early changes. Some areas of the assembly process began producing 1924 style cars earlier than others. And the new style...

I would love to see any of his paintings/sketches printed on Tee shirts! Would make a great collector series

Bryant

Here's a link to a video of my most favourite trip ever. My son was along for the ride and made this video of our trip into the high mountain country. It features some spectacular scenery, great Model T roads and is a wonderful memory for me and the other friend's in T's that enjoyed it together.

We have a very similar show going on in Mt Pleasant, IA this weekend. Last year there were a number of T's and they even had the timed T build.

1905 Queen 16-18Hp Model E Touring

Wheelbase : 84 inches

Manufacturer : 1904 - 1906 C.H. Blomstrom Motor Co. - Detroit, Michigan.

If you have a steep hill nearby, try going down the hill on compression, in low gear or Ruckstell with the throttle closed. Then when you get to the bottom, open the throttle. If you get a lot of blue smoke out of the exhaust, it is oil burning. That is an indication of worn piston rings. Or sometimes the gap at the end of the rings is not...

Is there really such a thing as a one piece wheel rim ? The problem of steam-bending a single piece to meet accurately in a finger joint boggles my mind !! I would love to know how that was done !!

Meanwhile, I replaced the badly worn column in my T with a very original and lightly used 1914 unit (thanks to Tom Rootleib). As the spider from the...

I did some searches also about the Raven finish. Ford and others used the Raven color on several car models in the 50’s and onward. It’s a shade of black among other black shades it turns out is still used occasionally. Not trying to change the subject but as the major colors used on autos they have LOTS of different shades and black is no...

Yeah James, Watchdog will take those rebuilt plastic case coils off your hands for a reduced price..... The plastic coils that I rebuilt and calibrated are still running in friend's Model t's with no problem....... Haven't burned out yet, and probably won't.

Well, the AACA pushed the deadline to today! Last day to register. So easy now online if you are already a member. My dad and I will both be in class 10B non-judged with our 1916 and 1915 Ts respectively. My brother will have his 1923 T in its class too. He will be going for his first senior award, having recieved 1st and 2nd Junior in prior...

And THANK YOU to EVERYONE who supplied information for me! Each little tidbit helps., and that is why these forums are so valuable!

The T in first pic is warm, it may be running, the snow is melted off the hood and firewall. Horse standing in knee-deep snow, model T in 2 foot drift, what great weather! Thanks for posting, jb

Be sure to account for the car bouncing while being trailered and allow for it with internal ceiling height.

Mine's an enclosed Integrity made in Pennsylvania, but I bought it in Massachusetts from a dealer. I'm happy with it.

Bill Squires is the go to guy for auto hauling. He does what He says He will do. When He says He will do it. For a fair price You pay when the car is delivered. No up front money. No Hocus Pocus on delivery schedule. If He says it will be at Your delivery address on a certain date. You can rest assured it will be there. Bill Shown in photo...

Jay Leno referred to them as Mennonite Ts as some Mennonites could own cars as long as they were “plain Jane” as they weren’t allowed to have anything “flashy” or that would draw attention to themselves

Thank you Dave!
That raises another question in my mind. When was the change made to the 1912 style trans cover. It was certainly after Ford changed fron the narrow to the wide one piece pan. Im thinking that chage occured maybe Feb or Mar of 1911. All that tells me the later style transmission cover was introduced after the 4 flat slow speed was...

Yes; that’s what I want to explore for production. Only I won’t use the ‘eyelets’ welded to pipe. I’ve cut off the ball end of the later plentiful wishbones and plugged them into the 3 pc bronze system. The only somewhat difficult process is grinding the 2 under axle pieces down from over 3/8” to a little under 1/4”. This enables the earlier perch...

I bought a set from Lang's.

Here is one solution to the birds in your car

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Ohhhh Perry!! Well it is cute especially how we know your humor!

But that ain't gonna happen on my watch!!

;) :lol:

The pictures didn't get added to my previous post - sorry about that.

Here's the original block and the measured location ..

Never ran a NH except for a short while while my Holly G got rebuilt my Cory Walker. Which ran great just not as smooth through the entire RPM. Definitely better acceleration and more oomph on the hills then the G.

First, there are no numbers stamped on the frame rail.
Second, both upper and lower door hinges on the passenger side measure 1.75 . Provided the car is not a put together , it's a '25. Right?
My goal is not to prove the year the car was manufactured, I have a PA title from the previous owner stating it's a 1925 model. I'm just attempting to find...

I’m with Steve. You can over think the timing. I set #1 at Top Dead Center then adjust the rod so the coil buzzes 2-3 notches down. You can go more if you want. The spark lever will pull in more advance than you’ll ever need.

Yep me too. This is how John Regan taught me. I call it the 9:30-3:30 method and man it's got Clara my '13 to start so...

A few more work vehicles

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More info on the Franklin Box
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However this looks similar to the one in Tyrone's car but not the same
Its a Schroeder box

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You can't make a new car out of used parts well not really true, the TD2000 was factory built with a Nissan engine, when Nissan could no longer supply, they opted to fit reconditioned engines, and when the company sold out to a Malaysian company, they used new Toyota running gear. Screenshot (257).png

Cool little thing. What will it sell for - any guesses?

Half the price of a full size one?

The box on the right is a 1912 Heinze box with the coils arranged in mismatched fashion. The earlier Heinze coils in 1911 used a separate post to ground the top, and had combinations of more screws to hold the tops down. The Heinze company must have been a favorite of whoever was selling blueprint supplies to them, because the designs changed...

The later Ford band ratchet tool included the 15/16 end opposite the ratchet end - great tool !

There has been confusion on the correct battery cable size. 6. Volt systems use a 2/0 size copper cable. It is thick enough to properly carry the amperage needed for a strong starter. 12. Volt systems may use a number two size battery cable which is smaller in diameter and is able to carry less amperage. When used on 6-volt systems, problems will...

Allan, Frankly, I think that you are being too kind merely calling the miscreant a mongrel . However, as I am a generally polite individual, and this is a family oriented website? I won't use the language I would truly consider them to be.
Sadly, that sort of thing happens way too often. I, and many friends of mine, have over the years lost a few...

By products of acetylene are carbon (soot) and water. Clean the basket every use too.

Previous post with caution

By Peter Kable on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 - 06:53 pm:
Don't use propane,

A guy here tried it years ago on his Model T. not only was the light produced terrible it melted the brass chimneys of both headlights.

I made my own from a swap meet socket ( Harbor Freight ) Cut six flats out with a die grinder & cutoff wheel, turn , heat & press a sleeve on
to strengthen the two flats. Works with a impact if stuck real bad. IMG_2465 (1).jpg
Craig.

The Price List of Parts don't have that series of numbers in either T, TT or Fordson parts listings, including Canadian export price lists.

A search of Factory Numbers did find two, 1629 ( price part # T-3604) Bolt, 5/16 x 20, 2 L, and the 1884 , Starter armature shaft (but no price part #). However, a dealer wouldn't use Factory Number , would...

Here is a photo of the same wheels on a 1926 Pickup from another post here. This photo looks to be taken in Africa. All evidence suggests the were available mostly outside USA and possibly manufactured in the UK.

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Dan,
Here is the June 1927, parts manual. It shows part number S-489-B, Throttle control rod lever. If you look at part number S-488-B you will see the rod assembled with the lever on the left end. This rod goes from the dash on the tractor along the top of the engine to the carburetor or vaporizer. The operator control for the throttle is mounted...

The pictured cans are like the ones I bought for $2 and $3 at auction. Yes they were made for cars larger than a Model T, but the price was perfect and they work just fine. I made a carrier that clamps on the running board and doesn't require drilling any holes.