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I just want to say thank you to Lang's and let folks know they are still a very good vendor. I have ordered a bunch of stuff from them this year and thru the years. Finally after many years of orders, I was missing a couple parts in the order. I contacted them, they made it good, no questions asked. The missing parts were put in my order I placed...

I've been working on these for a few weeks, and it's coming together well. My neighbor made an awesome drilling guide on a scrap piece of 1/2 thick aluminum using CNC equipment; it has the 10 locating pin holes, as well as 5 holes I can use to mark the center reference lines and two for the tail shaft. I've got all of the holes drilled 1/8 right...

Only 14 days until the 10th anniversary swap meet in Marietta, Ohio.
Meet starts at 7:00 am and goes until 3:00 pm.

Good food and good deals abound.

Model T and Model A !!!

Guys: Does any one have drawing with connecting rod measurements? Thanks, Dan.

I had the spark plugs out so I stuck a magnet into a cylinder to see if I would pull up any metal dust. Of course I did and it was more than I expected.
After removing the head this is what I found.
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There is a lot of soot and metal dust, plus some of the bolts are rusted, some oily.

I intend on cleaning...

Found a few period ads for Ts...
$265 for a Runabout, seems less than I recall.
Some may have been here before.

I finally got around to installing the Stromberg OF I bought from Bruce Compton at Hershey two years ago. It had been an older restoration by Stan and when he saw a picture of it, offered to update the plugs to how he does them now. So, it’s been around the block.

I did the preliminary adjustments over again since I wasn’t sure if they had been...

I am trying to help a friend who is looking at a 1909(?) touring. The car is an older restoration (50's?). The engine number is supposedly a 3000 number, but the photos he sent make it look like it could possibly be an 8000 number were the 8 was weakly stamped on the left side. The data plates on the front of the seat riser look like reproductions...

I am in the process of restoring the firewall on my 13 Touring and under the coil box it has Syverson Cabinet Company Des Plaines Ill. I went to the internet and it showed they moved but no date of when the move took place. I was just trying to get a idea of when this fire wall could have been made.
Thanks
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I need to learn more about Model T bodies! Where do these brackets go, what do they do, and what years were they used? Thank you for your kind help.
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Rich C.

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I finally got around to figuring this out. :D

I've received an email from a Model T friend who is new to the game, asking about his 1915:

While the car runs well at 20/30 Mph speed but the moment I pull the Throttle lever further down the engine just races and the car does not gather speed. Same is the case with Spark lever even when I pull it down, it does not gather much speed although...

I also have a Jeep and am on a Jeep forum. Jeep is coming out with a pickup after decades of no pickups at all. One of the videos shows a model with a fold down rag top. They mentioned it was the first ever folding rag top pickup. Now it looks great and the Jeep world has been waiting for this truck for a long time. But I had to bring up the model...

Once upon a time there was a chart with the lengths of drag links for various years of the T. Does any one out there have it? Please and Thanks.

I would love to bring my battery indoors in that that the T sits under a carport. Cold weather becomes an issue. With the current cables, are there extenders I could use, so that I could move the battery to the turtledeck area? I guess I could buy longer cables, but the ones I have now are correct and want to keep it original. Pulling it out the...

when replacing the capacitor in a buzz coil, other than tar, can some other product be used around the capacitor? if not, where would one buy the tar in small amounts?

The Gallery now has pictures of every other year, many of them absolutely gorgeous, but nobody has posted a 1917 yet.

Does anybody know of a source for metal stakes for a Ford 1924 stakebody flatbed? Even ones that have the correct general appearance and could be modified to fit would be acceptable. I can manufacture wood replacements but like the look of the OEM metal stakes.
Bruce

We had some snow last night and this is what we woke up to! We live 30 miles inland from San Diego and elevation 2350'. See the solar collectors are covered with ice.

Texas Speedway swap meet was old Pate meet . Anyone been? Is the pre war stuff worth a 600 mile one way trip? Dan

The repro 'outer sleeves' for the TT rear axle are pretty good. However they do not come with the grease cup hole or the locating dimple in them.

What do you do?

Well, marking where the grease cup hole should go and drilling it to size is easy enough when you use an old sleeve to locate the hole correctly. You actually need that hole to use the...

Does anybody know what trim I need here ? Steel or rubber ? And if you can still buy that piece ?

Any ideas what the correct speedometer is for my 1921 Coupe?? Thanks : Bruce

Hello again everyone. Does anyone know where I can buy hardware for the top of the coils in bulk quantity and or the part numbers for these items. I have ordered all the nuts from McMaster Carr but I am looking for the spring for tensioning the top points and the small spacers that are installed under the standoffs for the top points in the event...

Jim Starkey posted this on the FB prewar speedster page. It's not specifically Model T, but I don't think the sentiment is OT.

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Hi there I’m in Australia and have this distributor and I think macs and the model t ranch sell these but does anyone no what type of points these run mine are no good
Cheers
Cam

We're hosting a 3-day tour in May in Russell, Kansas and the surrounding area. Here is more information. Feel free to contact me with questions or for a registration form.

Flatland T’s of Central Kansas
2019 Spring Tour
Russell, Kansas
May 25-27, 2019
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This will be a hub tour, starting and ending each day in Russell, Kansas....

I would like to know if there is a surviving photo or image of the special badge affixed to 1915 Model T's assembled at the 1915 Panama Pacific International Exhibition in San Francisco? According to the information contained in Sorenson's Ford Fairs book (pages 30 and 31), 4,338 1915 Model T's were assembled at the exhibition. Some were delivered...

I am looking for information on installing a RAJO B head on a 1926 T Roadster pickup. it looks like I will need to modify the firewall and possibly the gas tank to get the clearances needed to install the head. Has anyone done this installation before on a 26 ? This is a stock pickup and I don't want to make changes if it will take away from look...

Yesterday, I saw Kirby Pray pulling his car along interstate 8 toward San Diego, but he didn't see me. This got me to wondering whether everyone was able to get home safely from Sierra Vista. I know some of the roads were closed for periods of time and there were some icy conditions.
Norm

I decided that there just wasn't enough changes to warrant making a 1918-1922 and a 1923-1927 versions of this drawing, so I opted to stipulate the only thing that seems to separate them by the year that the pinion changed from the 2 pinion differential to the later 4 pinion differential. And since the differences between those two as so slight...

Are the front fender brackets made of cast iron or cast steel?
Thank you

I recently got a Holley G carburetor with an unusual (at least to me) Throttle lever setup. It has the Dec 22, 1914 patent date on the top. Holley G Feb 2019 #1.jpg Holley G Feb 2019 #2.jpg Holley G Feb 2019 #3.JPG The extra part is 1 1/4 tall and has a label that says Apex Elec Mfg Co, Made in USA, Chicago . It has a thin slot that can be seen in...

I've seen all kinds of records For Model Ts but I've never seen any way of determining which plant a specific serial number car came from. Is there any way to track this? I'm talking later cars not early brass ones.

Here are some pictures of what I think is an NOS early rear cross member. It was in a lot of parts I got the other day that were gotten from Ford dealers in the 50's. I show a picture of another later member for comparison. Could it be used to make a later frame into an early frame? Dan

Post your recommendations here for good places to buy trailer tires .... :idea:

Found a good one today;

Southern Tire Mart in Meridian, MS
Right off I-20 at exit 150
601-482-8880

I run 16 inch ST trailer tires

Gladiator ST 225/90/R 16 G load range 14 ply
are just $88.24 each.

(2) installed w/ new high pressure valve stems
and balanced we’re...

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It looks like they were enjoying the model T too.
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Ran into an issue balancing the triple gears.

1st triple gear drilled out just fine.

2nd triple gear, the heaviest one, I center punched and drilled two pilot holes. No issue.

Stepped up to a larger bit, and the bit just chatters, and loses it edge, almost immediately. No matter what size or coating on the drill bit. Both holes. I used motor...

Looking for opinions/input of those who have tried/experienced High compression pistons.

These are some comments from the old forum of some who have HC pistons.

By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, August 24, 2015 - 08:53 am:

I like using H-C pistons and milling the head if I'm building an engine anyway. If your engine is staying in...

I have over 400 Model T and Model A pictures collected over the years from the Internet so I have no idea where this came from originally but it is very inventive and interesting. If someone knows the location please comment!

The MTFCA is pleased to announce that the 2019 recipient of the Walt Rosenthal Award is Tony Bowker of Ramona, California.

This award, the highest given by the MTFCA, honors an individual who represents Walt Rosenthal’s willingness to lend a helping hand, donate a needed part, or offer encouragement to the newcomer.

Chairman of the Rosenthal...

When you separate parts that have silicone used as a gasket there is always a film left.Spray the surface with brake clean and it will loosen up and you can scrape it off. I am not a purist but really helps seal things, especially in an emergency but we all know Model T,s never brake down on the road away from home.

What's the easiest way to check toe-'in? Thanks

I would like to put Rocky Mountain Brakes on my 23 coupe. Who's should I buy?

I've got a feeling my clutch part is shot... Can an experienced eye confirm?

The transmission book states to replace the triple gear pins if they have 0.005 wear. The pins measured 0.677, 0.677, and 0.675.

What is your thought on the 0.675 pin. Replace or keep? If I replace should all 3 be replaced to have the same OD for new bushing reaming .

Where can I find some good pictures of a 1920 or so roadster with a new pickup body installed. I'm trying to get my wife interested in letting me take off the turtle deck and put on a kit body. She thinks it will be ugly and look like an old truck!

I'm hoping someone out there can help. I am repairing my KR Wilson pan jig. It has 10 locating pins that are 5/16 diameter on one end and 3/8 diameter on the other end They are about 1 inch long. Does anyone make a step-pin or something that has those 2 different diameters. I can machine them myself, but if there is something that is already...

Looking for a great trip today to tombstone Arizona!!
It’s still 28 degrees but no need to “go modern”!

My wife came down with something so I’m on my own with the Lutz’s. I promised to document this trip along the way and post pics as we take stops. Assuming I have cell svc of course.

1) stopped at an old jail 14 miles outside of Tombstone
2)...

Interesting very early car in a photo on Shorpy- Link here-

Beware- I have linked to the enlarged version of the picture as the car area is rather small.

Dane.

I'm no good at links but there is a 1926 model t touring in an auction on Tuesday February 26 in Ontario Canada . Auction house is Shackletonauctions.com photos in the farms sold clearing auction. For those who like to check model t's over

I found this Winfield at an antique store and was wondering is this for a speedster and would be any interest in it? They were asking $375.00
None of the screws are buggered up and every thing is free.

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Does anyone recognize this body?
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I'm looking at a titled 1924 Depot Hack for sale.
It's a good looking body, (IMO), very nice hardware, and a professional looking paint job.
The chassis, fenders, hood, etc. all have a beautiful, original looking patina. Engine serial number matches...

By popular request!

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Too much fun!
Jeff

I'd like to hear some input on the Chaffin's 25-27 Improved .250 lift cam... I don't want to loose any low end in my '26 touring.

Got my new Lang’s catalog in the mail today. Like the new “barn find” edition with applied patina! 😀

Warwick, send me a PM. My stupid email account won't let me reply to your email. Dave

I need some advice on the best way to clean an early aluminum hogshead. My 1910 T has the square hole aluminum hogshead and it's pretty dirty (oily and oxidation). Aside from taking the hogshead off, what are some recommended cleaning options? I'd be grateful for any advice!

Can anyone help me identify an NH carburetor and what is the way to ID a straight through carb?

Is it as simple as being able to see through it? Or are there salient features from the side to look for?

Thanks,
Jim

Took a short trip to St Cloud Florida. 91 miles round trip.

The MTFCI Midwest Chapter lost a long time member, John Gross.

For those of you who have enjoyed the ice cream social on the MTFCI Annual Tours, John was a long-time sponsor of that event.

Here is some of the obituary

John F. Gross, age 98, former many year resident of Des Plaines passed away on Tuesday, February 19, 2019. John was born on...

IMG_20190131_135134.jpg has anyone seen this sign before outdoor sign to price used cars it is made of a canvas material and is water proof thinking late ,1930s

I have read several threads over the years claiming how great the Everbright Protectaclear coating is on brass if the proper preparation is followed. I have not seen feedback on the durability of the product on the radiator. Has anyone tried this coating on their brass radiator? A bit nervous about how it may perform with the heat of the radiator.

I am thinking I must have missed getting a 2019 Calendar from Lang's....Don't see them listed on the site. Dang. I have had one every year offered and I must have missed getting one before they sold out. What a bummer. My fault for a late start this year. People at work really seem to enjoy them and are always flipping the pages.

Anyone have a...

I have searched for information about Victor # 2 lights, particularly side and tail lights for a 1914 Touring. I found a picture posted in 2009 by Rick Gunter that showed a tail light with both a red and either a blue or green round lens. Victor # 2 Lights Rick Gunter.jpg I have found other Forum posts that state that the tail light body was the...

Nobody has started a dream list or parts wanted thread yet this year ... ????? so Ill go first.

I need a pair of 1914 gas headlights. and a pair of headlight forks. They do not need to be mint condition. Just something I can use as-is or with very little work. A pair that has already been converted to electric lights will be OK (even preferred)....

I know they made them - I’ve seen conversions somewhere. We could use a few for our tour - this is crazy!!

Jeff

If posted lately my apologies. Not my chart but very handy. If revisions are needed please speak up....😁

On Labor Day the engine in my 1912 Model T touring froze up. I took the engine to Jack Putnam in Bluffton, Ohio. The engine was back in six weeks. A previous rebuilder had failed to hone the wrist pins in the aluminium pistons (covered in earlier fora). The rebuild was extensive as the engine had been run for most of its 100+ life, essentially all...

I was told they were for a T but not sure. They are nickel plated with a brass finish that is wearing off in some places.
Thanks Mike

I always see post about Ford script, the Ford blue oval , and patterns.... but my favorite of all time is this one...Also, why did Ford quit using it?

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What might it be?
I wish I knew how to enhance it.

I want to grab my tubes and flaps before the price increase but I want to make sure I get this right...

I bought a set of 4.40/4.50-21 tires over Christmas with the free shipping deal but I still need the tubes and flaps. I don't need rim strips for a split rim since there are no spokes poking through the inside correct? Just tubes and flaps?...

There is a '14 Touring in the classifieds right now that has some accessories on the driver's side running board. The front item seems to be a carbide generator but the three canisters behind that are a mystery. I think I have seen them on a couple of cars with no mention to what they are. Are they toolboxes? Early forms of Lunchables? REALLY big...

I have had this picture for years. And have a lot of questions that I would like to have answered. I suppose it is an N model, from I have learned lately, because of the step. The car shows to have a lot of missing parts. As you see all the advertisements on the car, and notice it says Metropolis Illinois. Which is the home of Superman. This...

I got this from a friend who bought obsolete Model T and A parts from Ford Dealerships n the 1950s. Any idea what era the sign may be? The measurements are about 12x24. The Ford script and circle are embossed into the wood...which is solid except for a ply cut into each end to stop it from warping.

My TT has been parked and not started for a few months. Everything worked fine when I parked it. I tried to start it this morning and the battery is stone dead. It's a 12V with an alternator, no starter. I just use the battery for starting coil voltage and the lights.

I put my charger on it, made sure the connections were good, and nothing. The...

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Was at the Benson Ford Research Center today, found the jack drawings. The pressed steel jack changed to the flip top design in drawing dated August 1925. The part number remained the same. Applicability: all T chassis .

What is the best way to straighten wire spokes? I would like to try to do myself without a big investment into having someone else do. Thanks

After going to a couple of upholstery shops yesterday with my 26 Coupe bench seat to get recovered, I was shocked by the estimates they were giving me, so after unsuccessful internet searching this morning, I have come to the experts that hopefully can inform me of possibly where to buy a quality slip cover for my car? At this particular juncture,...

Peter and the folks at Fawcett Restoration get the racer going. The cylinder side ports are open, and that makes cranking a little easier. Peter also drove the car a bit, and said it's fast. Click on the link below to see the start:

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Not a Ford and not in a van (Down by the river)

I am wondering if you need to add a vent to the rear axle tube when going to a modern pinion bearing setup, they say that one or more of the bearings are sealed and I am thinking that I need to add a vent. This could be a dangerous move but what do you think?

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I think I got it. I’ve tried using the forums on Chrome, Safari, Explorer, MAC, Windows, iPhone, Android and each time I select “Remember Me” and login once and then close the browser, I’m automatically logged in the next visit.

You guys have been awfully quiet on this subject which means, in highly technical speak, it must be working.
If you...

The hubcaps on my T are badly corroded and want to find out the best way to clean and bring them back to life?

Thanks,
Jim

I'm replacing the shaft and slow speed pedal notch in my 26 hogshead. Can I get some input on the best way to install the notch pin and pedal pin. There isn't much real estate to work with in there and I don't want to break anything.

Brad

Helped a friend put his bands back in since i just did mine as well mine not leaking but his is
But we put it on twice oil leaking at pan ears at the frame
Rest nice tight seal
Blue RTV new gaskets straight endge on pan and hogshead both seem staight wonder what i can use seal it or should i pull it up and squeeze some more in

Just saw the release date of this and thought i would share. Looks good to me ;) If you don't have Netflix, get it, it's well worth it. If not, will probably be in the Theaters soon after.

...who is it? I’m still running ORIGINAL Sears Allstate’s on my ‘50 Ford. Need to order new, save shipping....

I'll likely install my spare '25 engine when I get back from Chickasha and am starting to realize that installing it with the rearend/torque tube in place might not be the easiest thing to do. And by that, I mean making the u-joint slide into place while manhandling the engine into its proper location.

After all the hassle I went through getting...

There must be a way but when I try to search old classifieds all I get is 2018.

I was going through some old files and came across an Eaton parts book from 1986. It's interesting how little the design has changed since the Model T Era.

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Looks some type of cover over the back seat area. Behind the middle guy looks like some kind of gas pump. I am not very familiar with military stuff. Can any one pin point the year of the car? 1917, 1918?

I installed the crank I had ground in 1980 and come to find out it is .003 out in center main and the inner thrust is .007 on one side and drags on the other but the flange is square. :oops: It is fresh .020 all. Any help ?,I live in Portsmouth ,VA. I have 2 other cranks I think are junk but I hate to throw them away. One is .005 on front main and...

This is the time of year when movies that have finished their first run return to the theaters because they've been nominated and people who missed them before want to see them. So this evening I'll be driving up to Wichita the see They Shall Not Grow Old . I rarely go to see a movie twice, but I did for Stan & Ollie , and I'll do it for this one.