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Pic #11, of the dealer for Seiberling Tires...Seiberling was one of, if not THE best, tire on the market back in it's heyday. My Grandmother's tire store in Marion OH sold them, not being biased (no pun intended...they were bias ply tires!), but once she sold dad a set..yeh, sold..ha ha...it was totally amazing how smooth they rolled. They were...

Many years ago, Stan Howe posted the following on this forum:

STEWARDSHIP

“On a serious note, we are all just stewards of these cars. Somebody owned them before we did, somebody will own them after we are gone. The money that we pay for them or the money that we take for them is just a way to determine who will steward what car and for how...

At half the price,worth the risk of lesser mileage and they will look so nice on the 13 .

I'll second Craig's recommendation and polishing by machine. You must NEVER buff in any direction but AWAY from an edge. It is too easy for an edge to catch on a buffing wheel and damage your brass beyond repair as it flings away, or takes the tip of your thumb off down to the bone. I was being careful polishing a brass headlight rim for nickel...

Hi Corey,
If the Babbitt in the block is good & the crank is true then YES replace it with a re-Babbitted or a very good used one. That looks kind of hokey.
It may have been installed because of a center main issue rather than a preventative measure. So check the bearings close.
Craig.

I don’t miss old Hugh at all. It got old really quick. As for the repair, I think that Classtique has some new material that has the old patina look. You might check into that b

As an aside to true lamination of hood bows, I was looking at making some curved sections for the body at the corners. The originals were cut from a wide board, and consequently as the timber aged and dried out, they were splitting across the grain. I found the solution in some modern foot wide laminated beam material. I scored an offcut for zilch...

And then Ford built in 1915/16 25400 chassis and I have read if I remember correctly in a Ford Times that 41000+ chassis in 1917 and was still assembling brass ones in that model year to reduce surplus stock and suppling them to the Army, maybe that included RHD parts as well.

Photo number two also has an early no opening engine pan used for 1909 into early 1911. Those, from a clean side view, had much more pronounced dip troughs.

It is likely that all flywheels came with ring gears once the starters were introduced. Having two distinct parts for the same job is not something That would be appreciated on an assembly line would. Ditto for the hogsheads, they were likely all the same, with factory blanking plates for non starter cars.
Many TT's were thus equipped, as a cost...

Just a thought, in the “old days” when even modern daily drivers leaked a little oil, RTV was unheard of, and non-hardening #2 Permatex was the go-to gasket seal, I had good results using the felt seals that were often long enough to give a little tuck under in those corners where some like to use cord, candle-wicking or a bead of RTV. In the...

A wise choice, let the machine shop do it, unless you have the right tooling it is near impossible to ream a guide square to the seat by hand.

Ted, might I suggest you put a heavy chain and padlock on the wheels once you have them off. There's a lot of money in a good set of wheels/tyres. Even more if you have flaps fitted.

Allan from down under.

2nd on Dan
I had no continuity thru my switch, the common lead to the coil box strip had corroded at the switch lug and broke...
I replaced with stranded with soldered tips....nobody sees those wires anyway to argue purity...

Thank you everybody for your responses! I do really appreciate the help. I was able to find one using the information sent in and hope that it solves my problems!!

When I first saw Steve's firewall photo all that registered with me was the gloss black at the top and edges and the rest looked like lightly sanded black ready for a new top coat. If it was sprayed with a wetting agent or penetarnt to bring out the gloss, it may well look much closer to the green on Russ's coupe.
Again though, to get an accurate...

What model are these ;lights? The model should be on the thumb screw on the door. I have a Model 10 Buick that needs a good set of lights if you want to sell them. PM me at imnuts4fords at comcast.net
Don Azevedo

After my accident I can not sit comfortable in these modern seats , the sides ride up on my sides and the left side I have Sciatica and lost 50% use of the right leg so it is uncomfortable being pushed up on as well. the cushion was torn on my 04 dodge when I bought and i had a upholstery shop put a foam insert in the seat to flatten it out, MUCH...

They need replacing.

Allan from down under.

That tornado-damaged touring has cream or gray painted wheels. With the aftermarket fore doors it’s really gaining some personality.

Notice the loops down by the radiator for the top strap are separate pieces. My fore-door 1911 has the loop forged into the fender bracket. However, it looks to me like there are a couple of bolts in the firewall above the side lamps where fore-doors would attach. However, there are also a couple of bolt head below the side lamps too, so there is...

My experience with the switch. I have a '14 Touring and rebuilt my coil box. I also cleaned the switch and put in new wiring. One thing I found while rebuilding was the copper fingers in the box that touch the contacts on the coils had been changed by probably decades of prying/bending them out to make better contact. The copper had lost its...

You can use the Chevrolet rims by drilling a new valve stem hole in the correct place.

I have been driving with loose baffle in the tank of my 1919 for about 45 years now...

Apologies for the delay in my reply, many thanks Craig for your suggestions, I will give that a try.

Many Thanks
George

If I remember correctly the numbers that go with the picture Tim posted are .100 on the left and.125 on the right.

Stan - I blew up the upper left quadrant of the sanded area to the point where I could see the image at the individual pixels. The black fender is still seen to the left. Under magnification, the blue color of the original paint really starts to pop whereas the black fender to the left remains unchanged. I'm starting to think that this car was...

Aw heck …. I was hoping it was the Canton east of Dallas :o(.. I always learn from your pictures Tom. And I thought the ‘winged’ radiator script was only with early ‘09s. Surely (shirley) the white rubber floor mat isn’t original ? But what a wonderful Model T !!

Would this same arrangement be on my 1911 Torpedo? I think I bought the straps from one of the suppliers. I don't remember the separate pieces.

Marvelous!! Necessity IS the mother of invention.

What is your recommendation for adjusting coils to work with an E-Timer installed? I expect that removing and reinstalling the fused jumper would change point settings. But, is that not a concern with an E-Timer?

I do run my E-Timer with the points active (i.e. no jumpers), and in that regard I've set my coils as I would with a mechanical timer...

What I did with one of mine. I went to a local title company who came out and examined the engine number on the block. They then found out whether the number had been used on any other car or whether it had been stolen. Then they arranged with the DMV to issue the title. I put it in non-operation until I was ready to drive the car. Something else...

Anyone recall what the selling price was on those ?

Somewhere around $40 ish? My memory aint so good tho!! :lol:

Original Ford-specified dual-filament headlight bulbs had one 21 candlepower (cp) filament for on , and one 2 cp filament for dim (later 3 cp). The dim was a parking light, not low beam headlight. While 21 cp is not very bright by tod ay's standards, that's what they used. Adequate for the speeds they drove at night with night-adapted vision (not...

Here’s another thumbs up for Penetrol. I’ve used it very successfully on a number of antique hand tools, where I wanted to maintain a vintage appearance, but didn’t want to have to keep dealing with rust reappearing. My daily-use chisels received the Penetrol wipe-on treatment more than a decade ago and still look terrific. The stuff completely...

TT clamp, longer studs for the bigger spring pack

That TT C.C. front bearing and spring clip, # TT-1164-B uses larger nuts, as thread is 5/8 x 18, same nut as axle nut. Plus, the clip also longer for the taller TT front crossmember.

The '26-'27 clip, # T-3075-C with apron screw hole, thread is 9/16 x 18, same nut used on rear radius rod bolts.

Photo #9 is what we are going to look like trying to move all these pears over the next week or so. I'm glad it's not a chestnut tree, pears land a little softer.

I also look all these pictures noticing how dressed up they are and can't imagine driving my T in the summer dressed to the nine. I complain when my feet are hot wearing sandels, I...

Mike's truck definitely has the faster truck rear axle gear ratio. He told me that about 10 years ago when I drove it a short distance.

After we left the restaurant on the tour, we stopped at the Smiling Fox Forge for a very interesting 1 hour visit.

Art Mirtes

Heres Kathy and Dave at the finish line. Quite a feat. No, his spark isn’t retarded and gas advanced. The levers are reversed from Model T s

Some success today to report! After disassembling the carb yesterday and finding nothing obviously wrong, I re-assembled it today exactly as I had done before and mounted it on the engine this afternoon. The engine still wouldn't stay running after the gas was used up that we had trickled in each cylinder to encourage the old girl to start....

I don't think anyone expected or needed this to be a precision instrument.

My guess is that 22.5 volts isn't accurate enough.

Not sure what you're getting at. If you've ever operated an early 20's radio, you would notice that they'll operate just fine at anything even close to the specified voltages. For that purpose, this volt meter is more...

Exhaust wrap needs heat to cause it to cure & since your on the muffler end yoy could heat up the tailpipe with a propane torch.

Step 8: Finishing Touches
Once the exhaust wrap is securely in place, you can use heat-resistant adhesive spray to further seal the wrap if desired. This step is optional but can provide added protection against...

It's been a while, but I seem to remember squeezing mine with a big pair of vice grips. :)

I haven't heard of a Giant head. I have a Giant Power head on my car, and it isn't worth the effort to put it on!

Larry, the head I was referring to is a Giant Power head. I know it wouldn't increase the compression like a Prus head would, but like Suzanne said, you don't have to worry about dissimilar metals.

I am aware of Johnsons in Oklahoma. Their website leads me to believe they do very good work. I called them yesterday morning and left a message and then sent an e-mail. So far, no reply at all! Called Mr. Stutzman late yesterday as he was on Steve's list, left a message and got a call back at 8:00am today. Based on references here, a timely call...

A slight bend in the front axle yoak will wear one tire, yet the axle will pass the caster/camber test ok.
A hard stop by a curb will do it.

I moved the filter to the end that goes into the carb, tested the flow and there is no noticeable reduction. Now that the cooler weather is here ( NJ). I will try it on my T. First a test on the fire risk after checking the rated temp. Then next a temperature decomposition test to try and mitigate carb contamination. The foam's size O.D. and its...

Well said Rich.
I'll never knock anyone modifying their cars, lord knows I've done more than my share in the day with 60's muscle and 4x4's in my youth... no judge am I.
But your post aligns with the philosophy I've always had with my Model A & T's....to restore them in stock/as found condition.
For me personally, it's like being a steward of...

Yes, it does! However, I was responding to rva’s response. He states, turning ccw for repair. Ok! My question is repair what?

When doing a teardown/rebuild/restoration on the transmission or go in to replace a broken drum. The Jackrabbit/ turbo400 was just a fire starter,but..I have a Jackrabbit clutch in my Transmission, going on 3 yrs now,...

Thanks for the info - I just found this rim to be interesting inasmuch as there's not too much info out there on Kelsey fixed-lug rims. It looks to me to be a well-made rim.

Keith makes a wonderful delivery guy. At the National T Rally in Maryborough, Queensland in 2019 he delivered three pairs of bib overalls to me that I had bought on Ebay and had sent to him by the various vendors. After 5 years I need some new ones! It is one of the great things about the T fraternity that we can help each other.

Allan from down...

It's interesting to consider how innovation builds on previous ideas. Henry Ford certainly revolutionized automobile manufacturing, but many inventors laid the groundwork before him. Your classmate's insight from the '60s adds an interesting historical context to the discussion! What specific aspects of the debate do you find most compelling?...

That first photo is also very interesting. The fenders would suggest that the car is a later model, maybe an R or S. They do not appear to be the simple early style plow type fenders. Look at pictures eight, fifteen, and sixteen for earlier N fenders.
However, zooming in on the first photo clearly shows a honeycomb radiator in addition to the...

Karen at the wheel, while Ed is assessing the car for the transformation of simple speedster to the fire breathing yellowjacket!

Time travel IS possible!

Thanks very much! This is EXACTLY the info I was looking for!

I think the Model T size thread on the early wheels were just an industry-standard thread, used on industry-standard wheels. My 1910 Brush cars both have the exact same thread size and style, and the caps are actually identical to early Model T Hubcaps, except they don't have the Ford stamped logo, instead having the BRUSH logo embossed in them. I...

It's inexperience, not age. What I don't know about these cars fills volumes because I don't have the experience to know it all.

Finer/longer the taper the slower the change per twist...
Shorter the taper doesn't take much to twist full open...
Figure B = finer degree of adjustment, presuming threads being equal.

The top one has no markings, the bottom one is marked T516. These are going on a brass car so the improved T516B's discussed in the previous thread would be out-of-place.

Roger

The top one in your photo is the very earlier clamp, will be ok to use either on your 1915, and your exhaust manifold for 1913-1916 should have casting number T4483....

Thanks Wayne those are all great suggestions. I have everything I need to implement them so that is the way I will go.

Kurt, you will need to remove the spring perches from the axle and swap them from side to side if you are going to revert to standard configuration for a while. That can be a difficult proposition if they are stubborn.

Allan from down under.

Yup, caster.... and yup, stubborn...been there.
Everything is apart and in process of being cleaned...

Hi - No they are not ribbed. Just staining from the wood spokes. Neil

It was great to see many old friends! It was also good to see several other younger folks there too. They are the Model T’s future and we need to encourage them to attend.

Thanks for the feedback.
I found what I needed, one thumbnut for a 1912-1913 KW Williams design coil.
Ron P.

I just checked my 1925 pickup which has the original upper windshield frame, and Ford R.V. Mirror, and the dimension 14 1/4 is exactly the same.

You can't beat a tractor show with steamers. :)

Allan’s exactly right. It’s a worn out 15-16 with a high radiator squirked onto it. Looks like a Holley G.

That 1912 touring is fantastic, super sharp. The accessory headlamps were not an inexpensive option.

Most everyone today carries a Two-way Wrist TV .... like Dick Tracey in the 1950s...

Not just a TV, I have more computing power within my reach right now than NASA had to send people to the Moon... I have 2 way radio, a weather station, an AM FM (and Digital, whatever that is! --lol--) radio, a computer, a walkie talkie, health monitor, and the...

For what it's worth from a newbie, in my other hobby, lots of experience with 6v and 12v mix and match. I have a 6v two wire horn on the ambulance right now on a 12v battery and it is loud but has a metallic buzz to it with no adjustment screw to deal with that, so like the ring gear, I feel like I'm putting a strain on it every time I use it.
If...

I know what the parts are. I want to know if it is battery charger, which I know it is. And who made it , how it hooks up.

I pulled a big screw up and unhooked it pulling the engine to fix cracked drums. Oh I will remember how that goes, yeah right.
Well with all else going on guess what? I think I have got it right so we shall see.

Andre- a magnetic crack detection setup is much faster and reliable. You can use a large permanent magnet or electromagnet with the powder. There must be the same available over there. Much better than dye penetrant.

I think it has more to do with weight transfer than anything but I feel my A-C brakes work better in reverse than they do foreword. The ancor point is in the middle so half of the shoe self energized foreword & half self energize in reverse.
Craig.

Thanks Richard - that's exactly what I was talking about

Might be an optical illusion, I bet the folks were our size, those wood T bodies haven’t shrunk yet but a hundred plus years later and now they have so they seem smaller. It’s like my uniform, I tried it on this year, 47 years later, it shrunk too. That’s my story & I'm sticking to it.

Part of the attraction of the Watts clutch was it could be used on a worn drum & within reason I think it works well I like the one I'm running
very much. I'm thinking that one needed a drum replacement @ the time of installation. I would very much like to see the lugs on the drum.
Things like that are why a trans screen is a good idea. Pieces...

I have seen that post and ran coils at those settings. My findings where this will work and the car will run but they actually have a pretty low output, about half of a tuned KW coil. Almost off of these rebuilt coils ( Kingston, Hienze, Splitdorf and L&B) are now running with KW primary and secondary coils so why not set them to run as hot as...

My father also used to have some later NOS finished/embossed cardboard panels.

The best way to describe them is the embossed side is basically the same as imitation leather non-woven book cloth, like what is used on Holy Bibles, high school yearbooks, etc.

The vendors used to carry the later style embossed panels but I don't know if they still...

Looks like someone had their hands on that spring before you got the car... Prior to 26, roadsters had six leave springs in the front only because it was a potentially lighter vehicle than the touring or enclosed body car. All others had seven leaf springs..... With a five-leaf front spring, I'm surprised that your tire didn't rub against the...

Tim, you guys have twice the chance to drop stuff into the abyss that we have. I don't take the chance with just one nut and washer, let alone two. Each to his own, but if you have ever had to take the cover off again to retrieve a nut, my alternative looks most attractive.

Allan from down under.

Can't argue with that either Allan...I've done...

Some of the originals don't fit good if you swap them. Be careful1!

John that is easy, waded cross the River at Eagle Pass. Just like all the rest.

Get rust converter stuff. Turns rusty metal into a primed metal but then gotta top coat.

Thanks for sharing those pictures with us.

Good job John. Good idea to check the others while you had the bottom cover off. When I did the rod on my barn fresh buckboard, I took out the horseshoes around the pan and cleaned out a swag of crud and carbon at the same time.

We were having difficulty getting the bottom ring up the bore until a local diesel mechanic came by. He used the ring...

I have this in my files, can't remember its origins but only the one hole showing. Screenshot (242).png

I too miss Scott's posts. He always had something worthwhile to say and was one fellow whose posts I always read.

Paul

Living in the Hurricane Alley, we are just getting some coverage for wind, hail & water since Katrina. Prior to the 2 companies recently in my area offering coverage, the state had a state government coverage program at about $1000 a month. I just got quoted for one of the companies that have offered new coverage. It’s about 750 a month with 1800...

I have been running a Wizard for the last 20 years and have no complaints or problems at all. It is definitely more thirsty than the standard NH but aside from that it is a smooth running and easy starting carburetor. I definitely noticed a faster pull coming up to speed, and it seems to run smoother once we get there, compared to the standard...

Another wonderful group of photos! Thank you Tom R.
I sure like that brass era speedster in number one! Can't see the rear cross member, so not sure if it is 1913 or 1914, most likely a 1914. Headlamps and radiator painted black probably for a more modern appearance. For the era, a very clean looking speedster! Notice the drawer pull used as a...