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It's interesting you mention about a Ford dealership, I once contemplated taking my Model T along to my local Ford dealership and ask them about a full service, and insist on them using only Genuine parts :lol: I reckon there could be a video in that!! :D

Congratulations to anyone who has a Model T turning 100 years old. It is no secret that...

Craig - a quick internet search show a couple types of flathead cradles. If you weld they are a simple fabrication project. I made mine out of some 3/8” steel plate and scrap square tube - with ACE Hardware casters. For any pre-8BA flattie, I use the exhaust flange for my engine stand adapter and cradle attaching points IMG_2251.jpeg to avoid...

How are our old cars going to fair with this type of thing going on???
Future headline....
DRIVERLESS CAR KILLS HORSE

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Ed that sounds like a good question for THF. I haven't heard anything about that this year, but I do recall hearing a few years ago that a cap was set (or lowered?) to prevent overcrowding. I guess it was headed toward being too much to handle.

I was out in the garage this evening looking through my stash and found four, all were black under all the crud plus the one on my roadster makes five all black. Jim

I brought some runningboard toolbox Corbin locks to an antique shop and went through all of their flat keys and found some that worked. Took about ten minutes to go through the keys and the ones that I ended-up purchasing were a couple bucks a piece. The bonus was I also found and purchased a coilbox key and some Ford script ignition keys.

I've...

Mine is a touring car, the method of top attachment appears to be pretty much the same, but you probably should use a roadster pickup as your model.

And to debunk the myth that the removable ears can come off the band if fitted backwards from the rotation direction of the drums, RHD have the band fitted with the removable ears on the right side.

What a clever thought Allan. I think you’re on to something!

Rich, I'd change your old timers comment just a little. It's how much you do after painting that brings results. If the prep and technique is right, there is very little to be done to a good paint job.

Allan from down under.

Dan T's last photo shows the different bracket I alluded to in my first post, which my sort-of partially real and partially not 1913 frame has. Note how it extends on the inside back or the rear cross member toward the center almost five inches. It has two rivets which can be seen from behind the frame and might fool someone thinking they could be...

Thank you.

Thank you Mark. Would have been before me getting as involved with any club activities or knowing people that were actually restoring any antique cars outside of just some old farts that stuff sitting around. :) (Those old farts started my learning process. :) )

Unfortunately, I have not worked on it since Sunday... I still have a full-time job.
I will be working on it in the morning.

Dan, what happens if you take it to Hershey, only a few parts sell and you have to lug what is left back home and still have to part out what is left. And, if you part it out, you control the disassembly. If Bubba pulls his own part, he cares less about the condition of what is left.
It's a no win. But I hear you on trying to sell a project...

Only the California prescribed formula gas is available here. There is Summer blend and winter blend.
Norm

Looks like fun! There's some abandoned roads near me like that that I'll have to try out someday. I subscribed! :)

Thank you John. I concur with your input all the way. The initial adjustment procedure, step at a time, and again as needed will see kevlar bands providing wonderful service. I put almost 20 000 km on my chocolate van with absolutely no problems. I did change them out at that distance when I had the trans cover off for another reason, but they...

Canadian/overseas parts book call it 3066D clamp bolt 1927.

One pin so your working with a large drum rear axle brake cam?
I cut the peened head with a sharp cutting chisel, then drill with an undersized bit, then support edge of cam arm on an anvil and punch it out. Bigger hammer if needed.
Example photos from recent effort on a small drum cam (two pins).
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It’s much...

From what I can see, that car is a beauty. Someone in the past put a lot of effort into it. A 1912 Torpedo is my dream T. Congrats!

Absolutely, after rebuilding two of them I can appreciate all the work someone did to get this car as nice as it is. Engine runs amazing, zero play in the steering and the chassis is set up perfect. I'd buy that...

Will..... Call main office at 1-765-373-3106 for your answer .

The red wire is to bypass the coils because a master vibrator was hooked up instead. The contacts on each of the four coils were bypassed, and a single contact in the master vibrator takes over the function of the four coils.

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Yes, it could very well be nut height. Each of the hex sides of mine appear to be square but those in your picture appear rectangular and shorter. I’ll go look in my castellated nut bin. Thanks again

Genuine Ziebart Rust Protection and Undercoating is asphalt-based - ensures that the underside and all upper body panels of your vehicle remain rust-free. It's inspected and renewed once a year
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Many possible materials used for undercoating

But you Can delete your posting… Go to your initial post. In the upper right corner see 3 boxes. Select the one on the left with a ‘pencil’ depicted. Click on it then see on the bottom left corner where there’s a box followed by the question ‘Delete post?’ Click on that box and, walla, your post is gone.

Tain't necessarily so McGee...

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For the record in case someone in the future looks up Hayes wheels, here are some photo's of the 21 and 23 wheels, they are obviously demountable and I have three versions.
The front outer edge of the felloe can be folded outwards, straight, or folded inwards.
were there any non demountable Hayes wheels? unlikely they were Hayes, as their entry...

Started another thread on my transmission autopsy. Short answer, worn out stuff I should have addressed.

Andy

Thanks Dan. I’ll contact him. Wish I had those back issues on the wiper.

OK, Thanks! I'd better check everything over........

I'm actually surprised by how many of the buildings in the old picture are still standing in Mt. Morris, MI. We know it as the location of Crossroads Village, a kind of Greenfield Village type attraction on a smaller scale. Crossroads does an excellent holiday train, their locomotives are former D&RG narrow gauge steamers. When I was a kid, they...

More info and Carl’s service:

Great idea Kim. It sure beats loading it up on some washers with a weight on top and waiting 110 years.

Allan from down under.

I did much the same on my 1912 many years ago. The key to a solid connection was your bucking bar. Im assuning you also beveled the rivet holes inside the gear case. Steering columns can be a challenge.

Here is one that came with a 13 Touring I parted out a few years ago. I thought Touring were long and Roadster were short.
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The last set of bands I did were for a friend & I hate to try new to me things on others cars. I considered doing it on my low dollar spare engine
but I put Scandinavian lining in it & have not seen were others have used this method with Scandinavian lining. I assume it is the same? Can
anyone confirm that.
Craig.

Yes, same procedure.
With...

Excellent photo. Thank you all for all the help.

Previous owner did not know about the locked position of band's adjustment

Can’t tell you how much fun & emotional swings when watching the video of a 93 year young man creating new memories & sharing experiences from his youth.
Very heart warming.

I don't believe any of those items were ever standard. The drilling of the holes in the windshield upper frame were there whether you wanted those items or not.

Ill be there on Saturday, to bad no trailer swapmeet. Ive had requests for parts so I will have these items with me, some new round and oval gas tanks, high compression heads, high volume oil line kits, and my new 280 cams.

It takes a little bit of finagling, some slight of hand, but it isn't difficult to use common later coil internal parts. It has been several years since I have done it, so I don't recall all the details. Later coil centers are shorter than the brass tops, and usually will not exchange or slide easily. As I recall, on a couple I did, I used the...

Thanks Dan and Dave, we just got a harbor freight not too long ago so I will go and check out what they have, I have always just put a nut on the axle flush and wacked it with a BFH, I know thats bad but its worked so far, thats the way my great grandfather taught me! he could tune a coil by ear.

Looks like I forgot to include a link to Forrest's obituary.

Ron Dupree

Thanks, Jim P, I had looked carefully at that pic, curious about the Wisconsin connection. Thanks for figuring that out and sharing.

I'm sure Steve Jelf knew/knows all those WTMJ Personalities well, can't wait to hear his report

Thank you!

Norm has nailed it. Once the spring is fitted in the frame the bolt does nothing but stop the leaves migrating. Any bolt will do that. The T bolts have a square head to match the square hole in the frame cross member, to make the location more positive.

Allan from down under.

The springs on the radiator mount studs allow the frame to twist without it causing the radiator cross bar to wrack and damage the radiator. The nuts are not mean to be snugged up.

Instead, screw the stud with its spring in place into the bottom plate and fit the split pin. Then wind the stud back out until it locks the split pin in place. This...

I have a collection of them from 1921 to 1927 about 70 in all.
For some reason none for 1925!!!
I use them for articles to club magazines I write articles for.

Looks like my issue was a nearly shorted wire from the mag to the ignition switch, and the magnets needed to be recharged. Ran a new wire up to the junction block, and zapped the magneto to recharge, and it runs good again

Chicago, good aftermarket transmissions. Value, complete with shortened driveshaft etc......If you want to buy one, $5 to $700.00. If you want to sell one $3 to $500.00.

Ed aka #4

The hole size according to others is 1-3/4'' . Thanks for your assistance...

Yes, that was one of the main reasons we decided to work on the rear end. We will also be able to put on the AC brakes. I’m on the way to Tom’s compound right now to put it all together.

I think some rims were done like that so they could fit on the spare tire carrier?

Yes, the cap has to be snug with the gasket as Ford supplied, but better results to keep coolant in the radiator is to use a modern plumbing rubber seal for $1.78 at ACE Hardware.

Plug that hole or add something, if left open coolant will spit out that hole. Be sure to seal the stem of what you add with o-ring or gasket otherwise you will have...

Wow. Just... wow. I have to admit to doing a double double take on it... even WITH the modern geegaws on it, its a looker, no doubt!

You could probably come close to that using period components, but even IF it's a hotrod, damn, it's purdy! As in I certainly wouldn't roll it out of the garage for leaking oil...

I'm also curious how the unboxed...

The bolt/ screw was available at langs, I bought a couple a few months ago

Thanks for the info.
$4.95 thru Langs.

OK, Found a T for sale cheap but wonder if it is just several cars. Wood spoke wheels, gas tank under seat, coils over engine, nickel plated radiator surround. Can this actually be a legitimate complete car or just built of parts.
Thanks, Tom

Well you didn't say what kind of model..touring, enclosed? Sorta sounds like my '26 Fordor anyway! Is...

J&M Machine make great drums.

Then you run into this pesky little thing called expansion. My Atlas lathe, you have to run for about an hour to get bearings up to temp. You then set the end play to about what was suggested above.
While you can set the input and output to some extent using a dial indicator if you can mount it. The cluster bearing shaft, because it uses shims,...

Anyone know what to use for a key blank?

You're very welcome :D

Mitch thanks for sharing. Well done!

Back from PTO and received the part from Terry. Came with a great sheet of installation destructions. I shared with my son and it's on the list for a redo.

Thanks again Terry!!
Cheers,
Vince

That's correct Dan. You can run the wide drum, with its attendant output shaft, in a 3 dip pan, but there is not enough room to run the wide band. Besides, that would mean changing the transmission cover too.

Allan from down under.

I was told by the prior owner Daisy had a bad mag... but iwas going to validate everything regardless. In testing continuity I found I had no power to the coil box. Using a battery on both bat & mag posts (yes mag wire disconnected), neither switch setting was sending juice. Taking apart the switch I found the common lead had corroded at the...

I have read here a hacksaw blade can be used to separate a glued together H/H.
I have used a utility knife blade. Then a pry @ the front with a wood chisel @ both sides.

I have in the past suggested that a thin layer of oil be spread to the H/H gasket surface.
The ultra will still seal, but wont take extreme measures to remove.
Bonus; the...

I think Model T Woods just made my mind up when he talked about damaging them.
He is absolutely right about that. When I have an extra 600 bucks I am going to get the
originals re-plated but for now reproductions will be the way to go. I drive the car
a lot so it makes sense not to take any chances about hitting something or someone
else...

Thanks for the response. I've got a jug or two of bar oil in the barn.

Hi Erik:

I just replied to your PM. Sorry I missed it and I do apologize for that.

Tim

You guys may all be missing the boat. We are no longer using standard size 30 X 3 1/2 tires. They're all oversize which means fatter, and they won't fit some original spare tire carriers.
Ed aka #4

Ha! Took me a second Chris. The “switches” are refrigerator magnets that I used to hold templates in place while making the dash. I guess I better get them back to the fridge.

Andy

Appears to be 1911 Ohio plates on a rather new car with electric headlamps.
First class!

Valve timing is off on #3 & #4 cylinders so a broken crank is possible. I someone is experimenting with AI they didn't do their home work.
Would like to see the crank?
Craig.

Stop by when you are in the area. We are right down town in Excelsior at 239 Water St. Minnesota. Go to google maps and street view. We are hear 6 days a week. Some Mondays we might be closed to work on tasks at the store. Go around to the back door,. if it is open or unlocked, step in and anounce your presence.

Hi Gregory,
It's not uncommon to find missing Babbitt. Does not mean the crank is bad. If all the journals look good & measure round with little or no taper
no grooves & you know what size it is ( under already ? ) Buy a rebabbitted rod if the crank is a little under size that's what shims & timesaver
are for. I know the book states 0.002 for...

If it runs well and you have no issues, drive it and enjoy it.

Low compression is usually accompanied by excessive oil burning and leaking, low power, generally sluggish performance, plug fouling, poor fuel economy, and hard starting when cold.

A long time ago, one of my first mentors in the antique automobile hobby had a 1915 runabout, and needed to repair something in the engine. So i went over for a couple evenings to help remove and then replace the engine after he fixed what needed fixing.
We did it as Steve Jelf said. Loosened the two rear body mount bolts, removed the middle and...

We still have a good supply of RV Anderson hub bolts. Call Lang’s @ 1-800-872-7871
Regards
Don Lang

Referred to as a gas line clamp set in Snyder’s parts. Wire clamps have a deeper U, don’t require a second half and are not made of such thick steel.

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Jim,

They're used for that too. They are also wiring clamps.

There was a guy by the name of Daryl Bendickson (deceased) from Ohio, who ran disc brakes from a motorcycle front and rear for many years, starting in the early 1990’s. He drove that touring car hard and fast. We were on some tours with him and his family for many years. To the best of my knowledge, he had no extra support on the front radius...

One approach.
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I just worked on a High Reeder Head that did not have the REEDER around the water outlet.

Thank you Darel. That confirms its good for 09 and 10. Unsure how long it was used.

Photoshopped. Clearly, note all the areas of the photo that has been manipulated, the grey shading may look like primer, but just the result of photoshop.

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Had my friend I was visiting go back and pick it up for me. Cheap enough that I could sell here or eBay it just so it doesn't get lost in an antique store.

Curious if anyone knows that symbol on the last pic?