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Anyone on the fence should really go on this tour. We went to the 2022 California Rendezvous and it was a great tour. It is a Horseless Carriage tour so you’ll need an early car.

Andy

John, you got my thinking straight on the ease of changing things down the road if desired and I appreciate that.

Joe

Jeff, that T looks so forlorn in the drifting snow. It looks like Mother nature will soon reclaim it to the earth. As far as art, that's meant as a compliment.

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I worked on my Ruckstell axle again today. First press out both pipes on the housings. That went without a problem.
I made a split plate with a hole and welded it together to press it out.

To align it, I attached a plate to the housing and the outside, which gave me the alignment specifications when I put it together on...

I think that Runabout looks much happier reversed. I notice it has some changes from factory standard including the radiator cap, steering wheel, paint & a very nifty spare tire (tyre if its really RHD?) carrier that fits the lines of the turtledeck better than the standard one. I'd like to find one of those!

Paul

Austin- you said the screws would not stay tight . Something is wrong or you simply have not torqued the screws tight enough. Those screws MUST be tight enough to firmly clamp the plate to the magnets. You should not be able to move the plate after the screw is torqued. Pleas get someone knowledgeable to help you with this. Loctite is not the...

In fact, when I turn the ignition on, I have yet to hear a buzz. Once it starts turning over on the starter, it will make all four coils buzz and she starts up easily. And, not only do I not get an immediate buzz when the ignition is switched on, with the timing in full retard, I can move the timing lever at the steering wheel all the way down...

Attached is another photo. The item came from the estate of a man that not only had model t parts but many other items. I suspect this is a very old item but not for a model t, maybe farm related. The two parts are identical with part number 5464.5 cast in them near the larger bolt hole. The larger bolt hole in both are taped 5/16 coarse.

Nice work!

Here is a period version that came with the band spring compressor tool. When used together they make hogshead installation a lot easier. I just wish I could find one for a ‘26-‘27 style hogshead.

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The gentleman, Brian from nhsnocar.com, builds repo parts for your Model T snowmobile. He was able to locate a set out for Canada for half of what I would need to charge. My chains are rated more for snow plows and heavy duty equipment. Maybe a little overkill for a 20hp 1500 lb car... :) .

Norn, thank you for the response, my friend bought the car from another site holder here in the Flywheeler park, the current owner has driven it but I have not, just doing some Maintenace & replacing the add on starter solenoid, getting it ready for the February 4 day show here and daily parade. I will look what position the band anchor is in (and...

Ruckstel and Model T brake lever on the same shaft. All levers are farther back than stock location. Ruckstel shifter goes through, Model T brake lever goes forward to actual cross shaft that is Model T brake/shift handle.

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Thank you James for your encouraging kind words.
It's fantastic to see Steve is on the mend, and I hope his Model T can be repaired. Horrific crash though, I've seen the photos, it will take a lot of patience and dedication to bring her back to life. Here's hoping 🙂

Mitch I echo Steve and glad he is on the mend..pretty scary event.but sure...

I suppose it would be useful for going up steep hills to get oil to the front of the engine. However, you would also need something to get the fuel to the front too. The 26-27 solved that problem by raising the gas tank, but still needed auxiliary oiler to get oil to the front.
Norm

I installed new linings on my 26 two years ago in June, they were pretty tight.. Then I just drove the thing... by mid July, they were a good fit. I do agree with checking how the edge of the drum matches up with the back plate. You might have to shim hub out a bit to get a better fit.

I wonder what the internal load resistance is? I'm sure it's a wound coil of some sort.

Adv for that type of cap to manage end-play.

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And a couple of more devices to keep the mag strong ;)

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The brass makes it. Nice work.

The last picture is very interesting to me because San Francisco Floral Company is a very popular and busy florest still in business in downtown Fresno California currently at 5080 East Tulare Street.

Does anyone have 1903-1904 Ford Model A that they are willing to sell? (For a Decent Price) I'm very interested in Early Ford History and am looking to buy one.

The Early Ford Registry...

Steven,
The 1913 in photo #6 with the POL E tank appears to have jeweled John Brown-110 side lamps.
Those and the tail lamp are kerosene. With the wicks trimmed and set, they also will illuminate
for about 24 hours.
Ford didn't use acetylene tail lights but I tried a Victor-461 since I use a POL for the headlamps.
I think the John Brown-115...

That’s interesting I wonder if the fordor was done differently?

Here you go Jim!

1909-25

1926-27

Thanks Ed, ya saved me a trip to the barn!! :lol:

Did the floorboards (‘24 touring) originally have cleats on the bottom, or are these part of a repair?

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Yes. Cleats on the large boards is factory, keeps the boards secure and adds support strength.

These are original boards from my '24 touring.

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And this is sketch I made of the rear floorboard for...

The problem I was told by a many year Model A restorer friend is that the Model T starter engages the flywheel ring gear from behind the flywheel and the Model A starter engages the flywheel ring gear from the front of the flywheel. Both starters turn the same direction, Model T starter drive spring and the Able Model A starter spring are...

Maybe from an aftermarket speedster body from the T era?

$50 is far more believable than the 2 or 3 dollars mentioned in the other post. The parts sales are very believable also. There’s the old saying that you couldn’t afford to assemble a car by buying parts.

To set the record straight, I had some personal issues to deal with, a train-wreck of a marriage... Surviving the savage 'Black Summer' bush fires of 2019 where we almost lost our home - one of the most intense and catastrophic bush fire seasons in Australia's history, almost 94,000 square miles burnt out... To top it all off, going through a...

Sent in for my space and was told there's plenty of room
Nv bob

Some quick searches and I found the following:
In 1916, the Ford Motor Company produced 500,000 Model T Fords at a price of $440. The company made a profit of $60,000,000 that year. Henry Ford told a newspaper reporter that he intended to reduce the price of the Model T to $360, and he expected to be able to sell 800,000 cars at that price.

In...

Thankyou Ron. It would appear Steve is on the money with expansion . The components in question jump from 1/2 to 5/8 in the listings, so my 9/16 items look like they began life as the usual 1/2 variety used in model T's.

Allan from down under.

Morgan, it not only stops it from rotating, it also stops it migrating sideways off the hub. Two screws would remove a total of one hole in the hub. This is easily filled later, if needed.

Allan from down under.

Sorry about the upside down picture…..

Not medicine for a broken axle! A lot of elbow grease and money and good jacks needed to fix this problem and if on a tour need a winch to get it on a trailer, maybe even a crane for the back of the car.
Norm

Good outcome!

Took the same opportunity but used rustoleum and a hardener mix brushed on but took a lot longer to dry. Had the kid help on a cracked pan

Thank you Allan for your recommendation. I'll follow up with the seller. Regards. Jay.

Both pages appear active.

From information in this post of Jan 28, 2024:

Dan:
Heard of someone in PA, anyone have contact info.
From the Interweb--Specializes in Model A, however.

332 Georgetown Rd, Strasburg, PA, United States, Pennsylvania

(717) 687-6976

I agree usually cast-iron is cut dry. But sometimes I would use something like WD-40 or PB blaster.

I think I know where they got the title for the article...

I used a lot of heat. And I think the tools are the proper fitting screwdrivers.
I started with grinding a regular big screwdriver to fit and all I could get it to do was deform the brass.
So then I ground a small socket into a fat screwdriver shape to fit exactly, and then clamp it in a vise to keep it from popping out.
Something that fit well,...

Here's another option which I think is the correct solution and permanent repair. I do this in my shop. Have someone who uses lock-n-stich products and finish with Irontite ceramic block sealer which is applied by circulating the block with a plate on the top and the solution flows at about 180 degrees and puts a ceramic coating and seals the...

Good instruction - might try that on my next rebuild !

I did ride with a guy who had his RM brakes independently tied to a brake handle he pulled when stopping. Worked great but I prefer a more simple operation, especially in a panic situation.

While some still do have it set up that way, back in the day when people were doing it, there was not as much traffic. Got enough to do driving to have to...

Steve, you must be doing incredibly well! I didn't even know that you could fly!!

Maybe he can play the piano now too! ;)

The last photo is a late 1917. It has the 1915 through 1917 model year's horn button, but the offset windshield hinges introduced mid model year 1917. Cannot see the top's rear window/light which could possibly pin it down to a month or two closer. Era photos seem to indicate that the tombstone rear light was replaced by the three rear window...

Larry that is north of the Mason Dixon line. 😎

Looking forward to seeing you all

He posted on 2/13/2024 under Steve Jelf. Stephen Jelf is an imposter and this post should be removed.

45 years ago I installed seat belts in the back seat for my children. Today I would never take my grandchildren on the road in my touring car. I do give them rides in the yard and in parking lots. These cars are death traps on wheels. It all depends your risk tolerance is.

Art Mirtes

I checked and they looke to be the same length, but the threads are different lengths. I cleaned and ran a tap through all the holes

The later nickel plate dome head bolts have a little shorter thread length. But only a small lower section of the threads go into the engine block.

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Sometime in late 25- 1926 Ford introduced a 4 row tube radiator. I don’t think they were on all the cars but Ford put them on.

The Zapp family drove a 1928 Graham Paige from Argentina to Alaska in 2000

I'm also in the process of setting up two starters. On one I noticed that the Bendix gear hits the starter motor housing. I set the endgame so that I have some distance there. I would be interested in other opinions on this.

greetings from Switzerland

This has to be a high end station I would think.
Installing the “exclusive” oil filling pumps/ dispensers would be out of the question for country gas stations and those in small towns. They had bulk oil delivered to them in 50 gallon drums and oil was dispersed by using a simple hand pump on the drum to an oil can.
My father in laws Gulf...

Yes, I have most of a combo switch and two brackets (one black one chrome?). And I'll get both sizes of wire.

Re: the picture
Ah-ha!
There's a hole in the firewall, for the magneto wire to go in and the two light wires to come out.
And the junction looks like it's just a small right-angle tab that I think I remember seeing in one of the other...

I used stainless steel hand rail and a stainless steel paper towel dispenser from a rest room to weld up my own muffler and exhaust in the shape it should be for a late 26 coupe. It will outlive the car and me.

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For what it’s worth I used a pair of pliers like that growing up on our farm and working on different types of equipment. We had boxes of tools and when needing a pair of pliers I found another pair to use. I soon found out the screwdriver end on that pair of pliers would bite into your hand when using them on tight bolts or nuts.
They are a neat...

That makes cents, the guy was a Model A guy too. Thanks

Hello all a little about myself. Many know me on the Forum as 1925 touring although my actual name is Austin farmer. I am 19 years old and I'm in the process of working on a 1922 touring car. We have removed the engine and basically having to overhaul the transmission completely and work on the engine as needed. My grandpa restored model T's in...

Those poor guys in the first pic, says signal corps in bottom left corner...so I'm guessing these boys are part of it, what a sloppy muddy mess! And the pic of the dog on the running board is priceless! I bet he was having the time of his life, too bad he wasn't facing forward so he could catch the breeze better!! :lol:

Was just reminded I never reported back to bring closure to a thread which always bothered me on forums. So, anyways, this is definately a TT bracket which connect the front cross member to the TT frame. Rivets to the backside of the cross member and up the side of the frame rail. The similar brackets on the two T frames I have access to have the...

Thanks too Jim

Page 17 with the auto jacks shows the two styles supplied with the Ford.

The junior screw jack is the typical one, used ‘13 to ‘25

The other is the flip top pressed all steel with separate handle, used on the Improved Ford, with balloon tires, note the copy states for Ford car.

FYI regarding the horn/light switch, yes there should a round spring that goes around the shaft under the button to push the button away from the horn contact. The c-clip stops it from all falling out. The tab that is swinging around under the button should actually be permanently connected on its free end, to a rivet that corresponds to a screw...

I don't think that car is a Buick. Radiator shell doesn't look quite right for them. I lean more toward a Willys Knight.

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Gotcha, thanks

I wouldn't mind learning your procedure to replace the hogshead, Stu.

Ricky, if you aren’t able to find someone to help you with your wheels, you might consider using Fastenal’s Blue Lane Freight service. If the wheels are in Denver they are still in Fastenal’s East Zone and can be shipped to Tennessee via them (no shipments across zones). They are very affordable ($237 to ship a Model A long block with flywheel...

I bought a new oil funnel for my 1919 Runabout on the rebuild several years ago and noticed when I installed it the funnel was a little wider than the original. After running it for about a year I went to start the engine only to find it had a clunk sound. Pulled the engine and found that oil funnel had come apart and was hung between the ring...

John, found your oil leak correction.
Thanks for the advice and I just ordered my WOSP starter.

George

My ABC speedster body was done in a similar way. I still use the main sills that are about 1 thick. I used some plywood in the restoration but there was none originally. There are a lot of photos at

I installed Dan's hubs on my 1919 touring over 12 years ago and never looked back.

Thanks guys!

Have you considered learning to paint and do it yourself? Painting is not as daunting as you imagine and it is actually fun once you get the hang of it…plus, it will save you a lot of money while giving you the pride of doing it yourself. Anyway, you can find many painters in California that will paint it, but with all the environmental...

Dennis, Hope you get it soon, as your car is pictured on page 32 out on the Darby Trail in Idaho.

Here it is Dennis!
I had to trim the page pic in order for the website to accept it.

Dan,
Thank you!! That's perfect for the top board. If anyone has the bottom two dimensions that would be great too.
Cheers,
Rob

Hey Jerry, thanks for the suggestions. The only thing we did was replace the spring and a lot of the initial vibration went away. Could the 4th main have been a bit out of alignment during the initial assemble? I do have the wood in the rear mount. We checked the 4th main and it did not have any play in it but I have never checked the fan blade....

Just had the Shenandoah valley Racket T'ers club meeting on Saturday night and plans for the Luray Swap Meet are falling in place. Almost half of the dealer spaces are now spoken for and they are going fast! Reserve your space now so you don't miss out on the fastest growing swap meet in the east! For details go to www.mapwsm.com

Michael

Perhaps, so not real sure, think most all the Ford parts were sent to the foreign branch assembly plants, including upholstery and tops.

Here is photo of a Europe branch showing the assembly of tops to the bodies on the assembly lines.

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Top assembly on the left, vertical stacks of top irons, the pads and...

Your profile shows you have a 22 Touring. Use those for a pattern as they are identical.

Yes, that diagram is very helpful, thank you. I am still working to understand how the connecton is made to the windshield to hold the side curtain. I have seen some put a fastener on the side of the windshield, some on the front so the side curtain wraps around. I've really got one shot at getting this pattern right, so I am looking for any close...

No mystery. They’re aftermarket items for a Model A. I have a set just like them.