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The car should warm up quicker and have better driveability in cold weather or in cool, damp weather with the heat pipe in place. It's usually not needed in summer, but it can be useful in damp weather even in summer. If you live in dry desert country, you probably don't need one at all. Keep in mind that once the engine starts, the carburetor and...

I must wonder why scammers hit this forum and club members so much harder than other forums I post on. I am a member of the SmokStak,that is in reference to old machinery and seldom do I ever see bots or scammers.

I'm also on V8 Buick.com and we get scammers too. Sadly, this is the price of instant access. We all just have to be careful.

(1) It was a photo of the people in their department - the truck was just equipment , the important thing was pointing at Casey or Joe or Freddy and knowing who they and their family were, remembering the last picnic in 1926, etc... We did crew pictures every year like that - we'd either bein front of our building or yard sign or in front of our...

Priming choke wires sold by our vendors are the same length with the pull grip already made.

T-4588 Priming Rod, not T-4431 Carburetor Priming Rod (wire). The Priming Rod that was bought as a replacement from the vendors does not match any of the lengths listed in the Parts Price List for any of the Priming Rods, for any year/model, no matter...

looks good

I don't know whether my grandfather and uncle camped in the city or not, but they drove from Los Angeles to the east coast and back with a tent. They camped where they arrived for the night. On the way home when they got to the California border they had to discard the bedding. I guess they thought they might bring bedbugs or something else the...

thank you, Bob

Thank you, Bob

Looks like it happened quite a while before the picture was taken.
Norm

Unfortunately, it is. Wayne went through an 'urban renewal' during the late '60s that gutted it's 'small town' feel... and soul.

That's why Michigan Ave is split east and westbound now.

I think the reason why Ford had so many different and odd sizes of pistons, is that you could hone your cylinder to a piston size instead of boring it. That would easier to do especially if you didn't have a boring machine. I did that with one motor I had. Also that would make sense for motors found with different sized pistons.

Received some tour pics from Rick L.

Rick’s 1904 10 hp Model A:
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Left to right, maybe a REO or Maxwell(?), 1906 Model F and Model A:
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Paul and Karen driving their 1906 F, taken from the rear tonneau of the Model A:
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Sure Brent

Did find Ford Factory # T-8120 for 1926-27 'Bolt, Rear Body Bracket , Short', 5/16 x 18 x 2 3/4 L

Would have been size I used too, as those frame rear side brackets have a big hole :)

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1917 model year top sockets are oval and the same as 1915 and 1916. On a touring, the first bow and second bow pivot pins face outward. The retainer pins are similar to a cotter key and are attached to leather straps that are screwed into the sockets.

Evidence:
- My unrestored May 1917 roadster - known history since new
- The unrestored June 1917...

Glad to hear it

this problem is so widespread it is hard to believe that the manufacturer of this part is unaware of the problem or unwilling to make it correctly. I am guessing around 5,000 of them are sitting in a bin somewhere, all made wrong on a commercial screw machine and no one wants to take the time to modify them all. It is a buyer...

I sure do understand the cost factor. I didn't realize that you didn't live in the USA. BTW: Paris is a beautiful city. Am I correct in my understanding that Paris is or was putting restrictions on pre-emission era cars?

I am in Paris Ontario, a small town just in-between Detroit and Buffalo. No pre-emission restrictions here, yet :| But T...

I learnt to stay humble... I made several mistakes with my first T 1922, the car was so wrong at the beginning and either me :lol:

I just went through that on a T that I've owned for over 60 years. I removed the front wheels to do this, because the wheel gave me too much leverage to get an accurate adjustment. The biggest problem is lining up the castle nut on the spindle bolt to get the cotter pin in. I've found trying a different castle nut can make adjustment easier.

I have been very interested in bolts forever. What I have done is to familiarize myself with the type of bolts Ford actually used, and gone from there.
When you have an area that requires a certain size of bolt, meaning the diameter, and tpi,and the length, then you have it. I've been collecting original bolts both used and NOS for years, and a...

Thanks Kerry,
I agree using a split pin cotter pin is a better way to secure the upper rod bolt and is less likely to vibrate apart and dance around inside the engine.
While on the subject of engine assembly, when I assemble connecting rods with Chevy dippers I bend the ends of the dippers up against the rod nuts to lock them in place. No Cotter...

Lamp bracket Installed. My rear panel is not quite the same a the original picture but the placement of the bracket is close to the same.
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J & M, MA; Joe Bell, OH; Mike Bender, OK; Ross Lilleker, TX.

He did say: in the New England area, or East of the Mississippi (River), so that kind of rules out Mike Bender in Oklahoma, or Ross Lilliker in College Station, or Daniel Bratcher of timeless T's in San Antonio.

gate opens at 7am for buyers 530 for venders.

Yes David I did hear that and ironically it was also their LIGHTEST load of vehicles..due to our T's not weighing much of course!
I did help Joe a little bit but when I mentioned back in one of our winter meetings to plan summer events I did suggest we try it again since it was since 2017 when just a few of us went. I was glad that Joe picked up...

Great idea John….

So basically you push apart with the screw leg just off to the solid side of the tab, then to pull together you flip it so the screw hook is directly across from the split, and the two legs are equal distance from the split?

I think the first day is going to be a longer distance than usual. I believe they're going to the Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg Museum in Indiana.

Disk brakes have basically no clearance between the pad and the rotor. The rubber seals on the pistons will retract the pads just enough so the wheel will spin freely with little to no drag. It is like this with cars and motorcycles as well. If the pads remain tight to the disk, the master is not releasing pressure and has issues. Be sure the...

Dan, thank you for attaching the link to the older post for One Piece Rare Brake Shoes Installation. Exactly what I was looking for!

I'll second the driving school experience. My wife and I took the class in 2016 and it was a great way to spend an afternoon.

The hardest part for me driving a T so infrequently is trying to 'forget' the muscle memory of driving a modern manual transmission car. I always want to jam the low pedal all the way down on a panic stop, but that puts it...

If you have a later manifold clamp in your stash, it will fit opposite way around, and you will still get full thread engagement. You can then replace it at your leisure.

I would DEFINITELY NOT run without the clamp. The rear port is subject to most heat, and if the manifold is not clamped tightly, you stand a good chance it will warp, making it...

Decking the block (cylinder head surface) is one thing. Milling and truing the manifold surface side of the block is another. I don't see a picture of your block deck surface with a straight edge on it, so I can't say that the block even needs to be decked. Maybe it does, but from the looks of the block from a side view, I looks like it might have...

Here’s a photo of a pan after it was cleaned up and getting straightened on a pan jig.

There are others on the forum showing different flowed on brazing jobs on pans. Would a Rolls Royce factory do it like this? Probably not. It’s a reminder of Ford saving time and money and as many T’s were being built it’s a wonder they did the job that they...

Thanks for the responses. Kerry, the 1915-16 parts lists are mystifying - nothing current but a very pretty 1913 two-screw Holley illustration in compensation.

Steve, would like to hear more about problems with brass bowls. I'd just assumed the change to stamped steel was just part of a larger shift to steel components.

The car's former owner...

I had actually set it up to do that and thought I had better ask for suggestions before I did it. I was afraid it may be too much side pressure on it.
Thanks Scott

We are talking about what you would see over in the lefthand column, where you would see if you have read it or not. This only seems to be in the classifieds. There are several different symbols used, below is just a sample.

I believe I explained where those icons come from just above your response. The circle with lines indicate if you read...

following the flivver channel you tube,(generator three part series)

Glad you found the videos helpful. Others here are giving you more nuanced advice, I see. Great! Here is the link if others are interested Ford Model T Generator System:

Will give it a try today!

I've run a pump and alternator on a pre-generator car before. Ran it on one belt as well all on the driver side of the engine.

It's a gen-u-wine TouraCoupSter Deliverywagon from nineteen twentyishmacallit, just like they rolled off the line into the furnace. I was trying to figure out the use of the front top bow as a back top bow... They could take a bow for that. And the semisolid front windshiled.

It's better than nothing, however theres about 102% of possible...

Our forum is becoming a hot spot for bots...
Daisy, Robert, etc.

Thanks Scott. I will get this taken care of tomorrow. Need this rattle to go away so I can hear all the others :-)

With the coil on the bench.
I test fields coils for magnetic strength as described with a piece of iron. If magnatec pull stops before the last coil it indicated a short to ground.
Next step is to test the continuity with my armature tester. 120V leads. This usually shows the weak short to ground with a bit of sparking & smoke.
A small bit of...

Hi guys,

Yes. I put together the 'bolt chart' during that viral lock down using various sources and an original version done earlier.

I am more than happy to make corrections, please send me a PM with the corrections - AND/OR to fill in missing data.

(Thanks Dan - I look forward to the details :-) )

Kind regards
Adrian Whiteman

How many have you bought recently and how was the fit?

1911 is the accepted date for the first ELECRTIC starter as standard equipment on a auto - Caddilc. There were self starters, non electric before that time. Units used a lever by the driver, etc.

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Craig.

Cool! Where on earth do you find these things? Thanks for the fun

Rich, I think Kevin has the right formula. I looked it up a while back but cant' seem to find it now. Funny story, a friend called, he was a machinist at a company that made fabric blinds. They ran fabric 60 wide and couldn't get the fabric to track. They called in one of their engineers and he put together a system of optical scanners and a...

I have been working on my ‘24 Touring this past year and found the front axle bent which I straightened in a press. Also spindle bushings worn badly, so replaced them and reamed to fit new king pins. Also replaced bushings and pins in the tie rod ends and drag link. I found that a little play here and a little play there creates a lot of play at...

Based on comments received, I have ordered the short throttle and chock levers from Lang's. The catalog lists the NH long levers for 1919-25 and the short levers for 1926. I am curious. Why the difference?

Actually the long levers are 20-23 NH. Short levers 23-27 applications. 24 or 25-27 the short choke lever has a dog leg on the lower arm....

That drilled area at the bottom of the frame is the starting point for inserting the windshield rubber.

Wow! I never would have thought that. Thanks!!!

would like to buy tire machine
tom 714-412-3200

There was a time Bill Hirsch use to obtain bolts from someones loom for all of the possible closed car Model T interiors. Either he lost his source, or there wasn't a way to make a buck at it.

Classtique has always done a good job with kits, but even with as good and consistent as they are, the cars sometimes are built a little different. Just...

Here's another bracket I have - mounts on a straight post to have the plate parallel to the car.

Nice work.

That is pretty neat Jocab. Here in New Zealand all TTs were local built bodies, so it is hard to find any two the same, although 'similar' ones are around.

If you have any intention of maybe going on this fantastic tour, you need to make your ideas known in the next couple months. Call or email for complete itinerary.
Frank Seress
sarikatime@yahoo.com

I really enjoy Ford Model Ts as found They are more interesting than a perfect restored one . Often these Ts were put together on a dime back in the 1940-50s. There were lots of parts lying around. Here in Minnesota I remember those scrap yards that were full of 1915-30 cars and parts.I remember a farm near Danube, Mn that was full of good Model T...

Nice work!

What made you decide to not run any magnets?

I’ve acquired a Bosch front plate and distributor. Some was fear of the unknown (magnets breaking and flying apart) maybe unlikely but I read a thread on here about it :lol: my next T will be with the original ignition system. Gotta have both!
Bryant

Here is another link I think you may find informative and of interest about Heinze coils.

I will in the future, but for now, as long as it hasn’t been giving me any problems other that a zap here and there, it doesn't bother me too much. I have some other projects to work on that are a little higher on my list. I do need to install some front shackles, due to the old ones so worn, that they’re rubbing on the front axle. This car has a...

1917 is in the era of WW1. It could be associated with that era.

To know or your starter is working right ,
The best way is to test them . IMGP0167.JPG
Toon

If you hear anything let us all know, Im in need of one as well.

I am looking forward to some REAL answers to your question, too ;)

I hope you get some...maybe from Dan Treace??

Ask and you shall receive :lol:

That tool is one of many types used to pry off or on the clincher tire casing. Tools such as shown in this photo ( that eBay offered Steward tool is the type at 'D ) are really helpful for...

Mine works fine, -ve ground and 12V (yes, I'm poking someone in the ribs :mrgreen: )

Luke

I was guessing it might be a 1908 when I was driving behind it. I could tell he did not have much power because he was struggling on hills. I don't know much about Maxwell cars, but it almost sounded like a two cylinder engine when it was working hard. Has anyone else seen one of these?

For such a short trip I would not fold it. Just drive a route which will allow you to travel at normal T speeds.

First thing that occurred to me as well. It would take longer to fold and unfold it than it will to drive 10-12 miles.

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I gave Lincoln a ride.

I have one that is similar. It is just the gauge connected to the rubber tip via a brass fitting. It does not have the handle or steel hose.

I just use a tractor muffler. Weighs about a pound.

Pat, You are Very Welcome. Glad to hear all worked out for you.

Good photos Vern. That makes it a high radiator shell. To be that far short it may have been cut down sometime to fit a low radiator. If it measures correctly for a high shell, the problem may be with the aftermarket radiator.

Allan from down under.

Probably variations of the same Porto-Blue base color, Richard.
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Getting Port=o=potties to the meet is one of several major efforts involved with making this happen. Time and evolution have made the simplest tasks more and more convoluted. I'm sure that artificial intelligence will simplify things for all of us. :lol:
It's nice...

This one can go anywhere. Approximate dimensions when folded: length is 13.5 inches x 4.5 inches at widest point. Coiling a hose dimensions?

When you decide to rebuild you Ruckstell, if you wish to install the correct fiber thrust washer inside the bell, I had a number of them made awhile back. They are a bit thicker than needed .125, and need to be fitted to your application. The factory thickness was .110 . I don't know why Glen chose not to make these?

I think that’s beyond my ability and tools….any suggestions as to who might be able to do it if I crate it up?

I used J&M Machine in MA. Great work but be prepared more than likely a lot of the other parts will be worn as well. Take a look at my thread Getting rattles back on the road and you can see what goes into a rebuild. Remember these...

Good to hear, it was great seeing you again. I'm back on the road on the 5th to pick up the Buick

You might find jatoba to be more affordable than mahogany.

Great catch, Steve!