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Attached are the Montana 500 results for day 2.

Todd Wheeler

Hi all,
Does anybody know what material was on the top edges of the enclosed cars before the factory put the outer wood strips on? It looks like some kind of tar or tar paper or oil cloth. It is black and is used as a filler or void material in areas where the welded pieces of steel are uneven. It also helps to seal out moisture along the top...

I started with a barn found seat frame, possibly 1910 Era, maybe from a Model N maybe not. Using a partial original seat back upholstery and a lot of liberty I have finally finished a seat upholstery project. I had not done this type of work for many years so my memory was challenged quite seriously.
The seat will be used on an express truck...

So I typically walk 3 or 4 miles a day up and down my very crooked and hilly country road and think, think, think.

Today I was thinking a lot about a Forum conversation from yesterday.

It started with me asking about heated seats in a Model T Ford. I think I may have crossed some sort of line with that question, because “BHarper” sighed...

Among 20 pre-War (I) racers we had two T’s and the Ford Special. We joined the Ragtime Racers and had a great time. Many memorable cars including the 1st and 2nd place finishers on the 1st 500, the yellow Marmon Wasp and a Lozier.

Brian, Charles, Bill annd everyone associated with the Ragtime Racers were phenomenal, providing support as well as a...

In the post about cleaning the oil line, Why can’t we drill the timing gear to allow access to the oil line. Two holes 180* apart shouldn’t weaken the gear should it? Just asking.

Car Games are on the menu at the VTAA's Summer Tour two weeks from now. We have a couple good ones in mind, but it would be fun to hear others' experiences and get a conversation going to share ideas. There are a couple older AACA forum threads on this topic and , the MAFCA publishes a downloadable 35-page book , and searching MTFCA:car games...

Can someone please post a clear picture of where exactly the woven rear curtain straps are supposed to attach to the touring body? I know the early style L shaped saddle bracket is where the D ring attached on 1921 and earlier T’s, but I don’t think that will work on the later straight style brackets. Help!!!

My son took me to lunch at Texas Roadhouse.

Here’s a pic of him when I was restoring the Model T This is from 2009 or 2010 as the interior and top was put on in 2011

He’s 20 years old now and taller than me

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Got an original Ford pump at Luray.

Replaced the leather and it blows air with the air hose off. Connect it to a bicycle tube, and it does nothing

There’s no ball bearing present in the hose fitting, either.

What obvious item am I overlooking?

There is a nice 1915 Runabout turtle deck for sale located in Nova, Ohio on Facebook.
I do not participate on Facebook. Can anyone put me in touch with the seller?
And no, please do not advise me to join Facebook!
Ron Patterson

Hi all, I'm considering two different rear view mirror options for my 17 Touring... the clamp-on version or the suction cup type. I'm hesitant to do either because, for the clamp-on clamps right on the metal window frame and there's a metal slider behind the mirror that touches the windshield. This doesn't seem like a good idea. The suction cup...

Today I picked up the missing link in a second Corbin speedo set, the cable housing. These have different sized ferrules to all others and a far better inner cable.

However the cable housing needs some repair to make it serviceable.The outer winding of the housing is missing half a turn of the outer winding, and needs to be repaired
I am loathe...

I have some trouble lamps and I have a socket on my dash but all the lamps seem to just ground out the socket internally and make smoke come out.

My socket has two spring loaded pins inside that stick up and the trouble lights all seem to have a contact on the end that just bridges the two pins when you connect to it. Is there some sort of magic...

Good evening friends. We have a '15 T 3 door touring that I am rebuilding the box that holds the 4 coil boxes. I got the composite kit from langs. The 10 posts that screw in all have threads leading upto the squared head of the bolt. The composite back has predrilled round holes. With a wood back, I've been told that the pressure when tightening...

Hi All,

I have just installed Rocky Mountain brakes on my 1916 tourer. I have worked my way through alot of the brake adjustment, but one thing I notice now is that if I brake while in low gear, both the low speed pedal and brake pedal stick to the floor. Also, sometimes when pulling away in low gear the brake pedal pulls to the floor, and also...

I’m curious about the wiring process used on metal dash Ts.

I’ve seen videos of wood dash cars having the bodies dropped onto the chassis and just a bit of connection work done before the complete car is driven away. I noted that the wooden dashboards are in place on the chassis so all the wiring was completed before the body is slipped into...

About 20 members of the Redwood Empire Model T Club met at a charter members house for a tour in the wine country. Ok, yeah, all our tours are in the wine country. About 65 miles round trip with mild weather.

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I’ve been retired from a large truck leasing company for 4 years and most everyone in the company knew I was a Model T person. I received a call from them today regarding their National Top Tech Competition which will be held this year at the Convention Center in downtown Detroit the last week of July.

They want a Model T to display in front...

For years, I've been using coil point nuts as a jamb nut for the spark and throttle rods on my early cars. I don't know if Ford did that? Next question is what is the thread size? I'm thinking 12-32? If a jamb not isn't used, the vibration from the engine will eventually wear out the threads.

I got her running today for the first time with water in it since at least the 60's. Ran for 20 minutes really nice. A lot of smoke at first as I had Magic Mystery Oil in the cylinders for the last 6 months, then cleared up and sounded good. I had rebuilt the carburetor and starter. The front end has been redone with a new spring. I have to get a...

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Talked with my sign painter today and asked him how my C-Cab was coming along. He sent me this pic. 919345DD-BA52-415A-9318-971CB51D436A.jpeg

has anyone seen a set of disteel wheels complete with hubs sell resently, ihave a set to sell and could use some advice on pricing them

Show us your flag

I’m sure this group would notice my shop flag has 48 stars so the cars feel at home!

Rich

Today’s shenanigans…thanks to Scott Conger and others who suggested the New Way Cutters!…. This old boy has lapped his last valve.
And the really good news is that the cutters I bought will work on my 1939 to 1952 Ford tractors that I’m constantly rebuilding and restoring!
Even if you take your time, it’s not going to take you more than five...

I thought I would share this tool that I came up with…. perhaps it’s been done I don’t know.
So, in spite of all the dire warnings about not dropping things down the Hogshead during removal…. and trying to be extremely careful…..
You guessed it, a washer slipped out of my hand, much to my and chagrin… down slope, and under the fly wheel and...

Can't remember if it was a Himico head or manifold someone was looking for. No connection:

I have been asked about the Stevens Front Axle Tool video so I thought I would post a link to it again.Many thanks to Bill R for making it and posting to YouTube.

Forum member Bob Hester is visiting Kansas, and today he and his cousin Larry drove down from Belle Plaine. We had a nice visit, blathering about Model T's and a variety of other important topics.

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SJ, Shorty, Larry, Bob

This was posted on Model T Ford Club on Facebook:

I can see it without logging in, so others might be able as well.

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Both of these steering brackets have the number T932C, why does one have the step in it

I wanted to post a note on here, just so people know. Today is my last official day at Lang's Old Car parts. I am still a Lang and always will be, I have my Model T and will be around. I have been lucky enough to have the opportunity to do a lot more traveling and spending time with my young boys and I am taking advantage of that. I started...

Got the 1922 ready for rides, Bag Game ready to play and fire pit ready to light.
Happy Fathers Day
To All Dads
Present And Past
Rick S.

The online estate auction for a 1909 Touring project and another 1909 chassis is going to be an interesting spectacle. Online bidders have until 12 noon to stake their claim, it will be a fun auction to watch.

Since a few weeks I am working on a 1911 Torpedo.
What should be a mothball job became a total rebuild.
During the disassemble we found this in one of the doors.

Maybe someone recognize one of the persons on the card or recognize the car.

Thanks
Andre
Belgium

Trying to adjust free neutral and the brakes, have a few questions, this is my first Model T, 1927 Touring, I believe I have home-made floorboard, and some of the adjustments are in relation to the floorboard.

Am I in neutral when I push the clutch pedal down and the 3 clutch fingers just become loose, will that change if the motor is running vs...

Got fooled!! I thought the steering wheel nut was 5/8”unf. So I bought a 5/8” fine acorn nut locally. It does NOT fit. The thread pitch is different (not 18 tpi). Does anyone know what the thread is? Trying to push my project along!

I got with a bunch of Model T parts this Case Rim Tool (as marked on the one handle), anyone ever seen one or know how to use it. Thanks for any information. Dan

Happy 120th, Ford Motor Company!

Because we tow on a flat open trailer, we'd like to have a boot for our car.

We looked into buying one, but Cartouche is out of business and Classtique Upholstery is quoting a November delivery date. I guess we could have one made locally, but I like the idea of making it.

I am capable of making one, although it'd be helpful to have a...

A set of 117 Model T ignition keys sold on the Bay for $1,125 dollars.

I have never seen a straight axle hub for sale on the parts. I know they might be fairly scarce and worth a dollar or two more than a rear tapered hub. Just wondering.

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I'm considering rebuilding the carb on my '26 Roadster. The car starts well, idles well and runs good in low, but when shifting to high it almost wants to die and loses all power briefly. It will come out of it and continue in high. (Yes, I have newly rebuilt coils) Is it worth buying a rebuilt one or could I probably do a good enough job on my...

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Looking through some old pictures from Chickasha past. How many know what this is?
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Got my notice this morning! See you all there!!

Rich

I have a 1927 Model TT. How is the seat back attached to the cab. I have found the vendors have a mount but it is specific to the C Cab and not the Closed cab. If people can post their ideas pics of how to mount this seat back. Thanks John

Hello,

I sadly might be letting go of a nice pair of 09 spindles. Any idea how much I should get for them? Any help appreciated. Picture attached.

After melting the old babbitt out, when pouring the 4th main, does it need to be tinned before pouring? Seems to work fine without, but don't know if it needs it.
Thanks

Havent seen one of these before, any help on what it may be? Looks like 1/2 vaporizer 1/2 NH? 00O0O_9zS92SkJMo7z_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg 01414_8314IrwqU7zz_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg

When can you tell it’s time to replace wooden transmission bands?

Does anyone have a graph depicting rpm vs. mph? Is 50 mph 2000 rpm in high gear? (TT truck, ruckstel, and warford excluded. Stone stock car only)

I acquired my 1916 coupelet in June, 2021. Owning a coupelet had been a dream of mine since I first learned of them in 1962, when I bought my first Model T and Clymers book, Henrys Wonderful Model T.
I am now 80 years old and suffering from compression fractures in my back and can no longer crank the car to start it. It has been a great driving...

I have a photo in my files that I cannot post right now that shows the comparison of a later sedan to a Centerdoor. It shows a 1/2 round molding that covers the seam from the roof to the rear metal panel.

Is this accurate, or was the rear panel just nailed over the roof with nothing to protect the seam?

Two new driving videos Newbies should watch for shifting timing. He's barely through the intersection when he shifts, retard the spark and take your time. It's not a race. Great sound and visuals. Thanks Steven, Sorry Scott C.

Hi all,
I found this wrench a long time ago when I was looking for the Ford logo on anything. Does anybody know what it's from/ for?
Thanks,
John
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I took off the spare tire/rim off about 6 months ago but don’t remember how to remount. Have two bracelets near top and one bolt on bottom to secure rim then use bolt to tighten.

I just found this video from 2007 again - Island Terrace (now gone) nursing home car show where my grandfather (also gone now) won oldest car with his 1911 touring. Thought you all might like to see it.

Well, it’s official, my valve guides all uniformly mic out to .314
My newly purchased .312 valves actually mic out to .311, so 3 thousandths across the board!
My research indicates that the rule of thumb for valve clearance between valve stem and guide to be:
Intake 0.001-0.003
Exhaust 0.002-0.004

Still seems like a lot of sideward movement in...

What is the proper tire psi for 4.50 x 21 front TT tires and 6.00 x 23 Rear TT Tires.

Thanks, Jacob Mangold

Could you guys comment on the stlyes of metal valve stem caps that were used in given years? Brass or nickel, kind of knurling, fluted, etc. I'm trying to create sets for 3 cars and I want tp try to get then right.

Well, these are new ones!

Don’t click on the recent “Quote” highlighted background that contain links the poster used in the original posts.
Done by Jeffreystar and timothyferris supposed new members :(

New spammers are now coping the quote links and adding to the address they are spam!

What next. :( ;)

If I recall, Herm removed the center of band linings so there was a gap at the bottom. Has anyone tried this that can comment on its effectiveness and longevity? I always respected Herms advice but this one is a head scratcher. ;0]

Came across this in a series of technical articles from Cimorelli's Model T Digital Library
Interesting - open for pro's & con's

Please find attached a flyer on the 2023 Minnesota Model T Reunion

Good morning Forum Chums,

I’m afraid my luck has run out……. Everything had been measuring out to stock size……lifters, cam bearings, cylinders, pistons, etc..

I didn’t have a small bore gauge to find the inside diameter of the valve guides….. so I ordered one and am waiting on delivery…. in the interim, I took a chance and ordered stock .312...

I am not familiar with early center doors, can anyone tell from these photos if this car indeed has a brass-era body? Maybe it’s not factory Ford? Not my photos, I pulled them from the dark-web.

Hello everyone,
This past month was the one I was waiting for since I bought the Model T almost 2 years ago. On May 2, 1923 the engine in our car was 1 of 6,515 units that were produced at the Highland Park plant! In honor of her birthday, the entire month of May was a celebration of my car. She was driven to work everyday the weather was nice...

June 10-11, 2023 – Niles, Fremont, California. 52nd Annual Speedster Endurance Run and Lowland Tour hosted by the Santa Clara Valley Model T Ford Club. Come join us for the First and the Oldest Run. We will start and finish in Niles Historic Area in Fremont and hit the backroads to the north and east. This year the Endurance Run speedsters will...

Good morning,

A little while ago I posted about my car suddenly not starting on a tour. One positive side effect of this is that I'd gotten pretty good at crank-starting it, something I was reluctant to try in the past. The starter was non-responsive when I pushed the floor switch. With the help of fellow club members I obtained a new switch,...

I failed to find a simple list of the best order to install components.
The 1926 Coupe was purchased dissembled with parts missing.
The engine & transmission are mounted in the frame, connected to the drive shaft and the radius rod.
From my reading, this is my best guess of the correct order to put it back together:

starter, Bendix, cover...

Hi All,

I am working on a 1911 Torpedo.
To do the job right I am looking for the firewall to frame bracket set.
In the parts catalog from Chaffin's Garage I found the part number for these brackets 3640/41T.
Since a few days I am trying to contact them for asking if they have them in stock but can't get an answer.

Maybe somebody out there can...

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I am trying to identify this car for a friend. This is his dad's first car. I cannot make out the badge, but it has suicide doors and solid metal rims.

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Happy Sunday forum Chums,

So I got the hogs head off to 27 yesterday with minimal problems….. the bad news is, as careful as I was being one of the washers slipped out of my hands, and is buried in the bowels of the hogshead…. i’m gonna get my camera out, find it and figure out a way to get it out of there.

I found something else of note with...

Could someone ID the car in this photo? The woman is my great aunt, and the man next to her was her husband. Sadly, he passed away in October of 1925, after they'd only been married for 5 months. Thus, the picture was taken no later than that, but may have been taken up to a few years earlier.

Thanks,
Laura

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I have planned a trip to Put in Bay Ohio or other name for it South Bass Island the boat can handle 30 cars and I would like to fill it that day July 9th is the day. I think that would be a great picture for a cover photo of a magazine? Please contact me if of interest so I can put you on the list. 419-618-1025 Joe Bell.

I have a MC tank for my acetylene lights. Have any of you come up with the hardware to control the gas? A normal regulator will not reduce the pressure enough. I know the old horizontal tanks had a regulator that worked, but I’m wondering if there is a modern one available?

I’m finally getting around to pulling the Hogshead today…. I hadn’t noticed it before, but I have got two pieces of iron that go from the upper portion of the engine block, where they were bolted, to the frame…… on other pictures I’ve seen of that area….they do not exist…. does anyone recall what year they were added?
I remember several people...

What is the intended purpose of the third hole in the camshaft flange and does it's orientation matter in the timing of the large timing gear to small timing gear?

on early model t brass bubble horns :o

I have a 1921 touring. Two years ago I had the engine rebuilt and it has been running like a trooper up to 2 weeks ago.
I have been on 3 tours and the last one was in Lexington Michigan. That's when she developed a miss.

I nursed her home and then started to look for the problem. Gas was getting through nice and clean. Spark plugs were cleaned...

Hello,

If we were back in the era of the Great Depression, and you had to turn your Model T into a Bennett Buggy / Hoover Wagon / horse-drawn vehicle, what would you do with the front and back radius rods once the engine, transmission, steering, and driveshaft had been removed?

My husband and I are trying to take a 1:25 scale model kit of a 1925...

I was surfing the internet and came across a 1916 Ford for sale. It has a red front floor mat. I have never seen one of these before. I have only heard of black ones or white ones. If this is not an original Ford issued mat I might wonder if it is an old reproduction, or a white one that turned red like the white tires that turned brown. red floor...

Last year when I was restoring our 1911 touring car, I discovered that one of the rear wheel spokes had a widthwise crack. My guess is that it had been there a long time and caused by one of those wheel puller designs that grab on to the spokes for leverage... The wood on the wheel was in otherwise good shape, so I carefully took the wheel apart...

Hi all,
I am trying to figure out what this number is stamped on the ignition switch. What do you all think?
Thanks,
John
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Bruce taped a segment last week at the MTFCA homecoming of our racer.

Kleps Garage full Homecoming video: