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Hi Craig, Love your idea! It looks like a perfect fit? Did you feel this was the best size to order after your install? What size hole punch did you use to end up with a nice tight fit? I see a Rockauto price of 3.50 for two!

Thanks

If you're replacing the timing gear, you should also replace the generator gear. In your one photo it appears well worn. Running a worn generator gear against a new timing gear will make for a noisy mesh.

No apology necessary Scott, Sharing individual experiences on what works well from different perspectives is what makes the forum so great and clarification is welcome.

My specific comment pertained specifically to the Bold highlighted portion of your statement. I added the whole quote for context. Your clarification captured it very well.

I use bronze on my tie rod and spring shackles. Works good.

The problem got resolved today. As it turns out, the crank length had been shortened years ago. As soon as I compared it to other cranks that I had, it became obvious what to do. The short one now sits on the shelf…

Les, sent an e-mail with pics ...

Here is some pro and con about changing to 12 volt in old tractors which might apply to any old 6 volt engines.

As far as Model T’s are concerned the original set up 6 volt worked for years and still works until you think you can improve upon it but why. To each his own in that dept.

The thing I worried about was how much tension should be on the truss.? Maybe others will add some insight about how to determine the proper preload?

Isn't it nice to have folks like Ben who know what to do and are willing to help? It's great to see the switch all cleaned up and so pretty.
Rich

Only if you have a machine shop at your house and all your chores are done! Nothing is impossible if it can be imagined .., N. Tesla

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As a mater of fact, I do have a machine shop in my home, but my chores are definitely not done! Do you have drawings for those?

I was going t mention that I was fortunate to have Hank make me a...

Ours held right around 2qts if I remember correctly

I think the overall Model T paint was was pretty shiny for a while. After a month or so in the weather and maybe being washed and dried off a few times that’s when the sheen started to change unless the owners may or may not have used some type of polish on it. There weren’t many if at all black top roads either. After a few years in the country a...

I've seen a lot of old, poor quality die castings crumble and fall apart. Indoors or out, it doesn't matter. Often, other die castings in the same piece of equipment are as-new. Pre-WWII radios and phonographs often had pot metal parts, and indoor storage did not proetct the vulnerable parts.

The only issue I’ve had with the 5014RE switch is the fact that the holes on the switch did not line up with the holes on my frame but it’s no big deal if you don’t mind a bit of drilling.

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May solve the letters and could be a special key they made
Perhaps a key blank was modified for a special lock, not for a car
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1/2 -12 threads and 1/2 -13 threads used to be commonly available.
The standard thread now is 1/2 -13, but I have a tap and die set for 1/2 -12 and I see them advertised occasionally on Ebay and other sales sites. It became obsolete in the late teens, (probably during wartime production in WWI it was dropped as a specification), although...

Is there anyone in here who is a longtime member of the Noken T's. I was on one of their tours a good while ago and at an evening supper/get-together that song came across on the P.A. system. We all got a kick out of it, mainly because we had all been in the same udn-udn situation at least once. I was told that the song was sung by one of their...

Looks like Champ is living a pretty fine Dog's Life. A full time job to hang around with Jim and his friends, take rides in a neat old car and eat treats. He makes a fine mascot and I'm betting a great companion.

When I die I would LOVE to come back like Champ!

Are the Top Bows different on the '26 than on the '27?
The length between the first and second are different. It seems that the last is a little shorter than the third.

Judging by the spring rates provided, a new higher tension square spring would work fine
with possibly a little extra tension via the 3 finger adjustment.

Do check the new springs tension. I have found a wide range from 110#'s to 130#'s
The stiffer tension preferred for the Watts disks.

There is probably more uniformity of dimensions for the later bodies. The original floor boards and the sill rebate in my Wilson-bodied '13 are 5/8 .

Did you try Snyders, Chaffins, Bob's, and Gaslight Auto?

I broke my cabin fever 4 times in February. It was a nicer month to bring out the Fordor than March was! I'm glad March is over.

The AACA forum has a What Is It? section. It is amazing how some of those people can recognize some really obscure stuff!

Since so much of the hobby has gone to really modern stuff? It is surprising how many real experts on the early stuff are still quite active in that club and on that forum!

From the general design, I would expect that...

Thank you John,I had intalled the 3 back edge where flathead screws would go to hold the mirror in place, but it had the gap which not allowed me to keep the mirror in place. Lang's do not have the insulation pads that go between the back of the mirror and the bottom of the headlight. You may know another vendor maybe. I will try to post tonight a...

It takes 3 hours to completely remove a T engine from a Fordor Sedan.

It takes 6 hours to install an engine and completely put everything back together (steering, radiator, starter, wishbone, axle connections, & initial adjustment).

Once you get the engine on the stand; Removing and disassembling the trans and diagnosis is about an hour and a...

I wouldn't even know whether or not you can load directly from your phone. However all my pictures are loaded into the computer under My Pictures. Whether or not they came from a phone or from someone else's e-mail. My wife does Facebook and she sometimes loads the pictures to MY pictures. I take them from My pictures directly to the forum. Then I...

Thanks for all the information !!!!!
Toon

Had a friend that got a few old leather couches to redo his car

Thank you Scott & Dan.

I found Ford Methods and The Fords Shop on archive.org. That looks like it's full of great information. I'll keep an eye out for an original copy.

Good idea or not living in the high desert of Nevada
I had biuld it once I found it but I've been told they work in dirt to we see this summer

There must be snow somewhere in Nevada as I see vintage snowmobiles pop up for sale from there.

Todd,

I sent you an email.

If you had storage space, It would be easier to have two vehicles and only...

A parking permit for the Epping*Forest Yacht & Country Club

I received valve drawings from the Benson Ford Research Center. These are dated 15th January 1927.

The valve stem is cold drawn steel Type EE and the valve head is Cast Iron Grade B.

Only the stem has rolled grooves, 18 per inch for 5/8 . The two items are electric welded together.

The chart is from Shop Theory - Henry Ford Trade School 1943...

I have never been a big fan of the towncars. However, I do appreciate them, and consider them to be an important part of automotive history!
If the casting date on the engine is to be believed, it would make this a very early 1917 model! True 1917 models are somewhat rare, and the photos do not do a good job of showing just how correct (or not?)...

John, If the oil hole is on the bottom, will it allow a lot more oil to flow through the 4th main going up hills? I understand from a discussion with Gene French that many 4th mains have no hole.

Possibly a little bit more. Not a lot more since oil still enters around the mains open end. Also the spinning spring retainer cup shields the end...

Push pins are your friend, they allow you to easily shift the material before you staple or tack it down for good. :)

Who'd-a guessed?

I DID! Literally 30 minutes after you asked. :lol: :)

Jerry...you're kidding!!?!
What's the odds? :lol:

Pretty good I guess...

If only these vehicles could talk, the stories they would tell!

Curious that one VR can work for 6, 12, and 24 volt systems? I’m no electrical engineer but that just doesn’t sound right to me.

Because ITS NOT A VOLTAGE REGULATOR. Its an electronic cutout. Can be built with one diode.
I have made my own. One selects a diode that covers the voltage /amp output maximum output from the generator.
Like 40V, 50...

I wanna go on that tour so so bad! But the 4 day drive out and another back with hotels and fuel its just too much cost for me.

Do your homework Steve! 1915 brackets are all by themselves. I think they are being reproduced in brass. You may luck out and find an original. I bought a NOS original from Alvin Anderson back in the sixties for $3! How many of you remember him?

There is nothing like the originals! A simple 3/16 cable to an equalizer, and a clamp to the standard brake pedal. The new ones work well, but why did Jack Sunderlin do it this way? He started off making them correctly, but got side tracked and thought all equalizers were alike, and that is why they now use the Bennett style equalizer. If he would...

Good advice - all. Thanks ! I was given the correct muffler shell kit for an earlier ‘3 bolt’ muffler and truthfully didn’t know there was a difference in it and the later ‘1 bolt’ kit. So I called the “delivery boy”, Steve Lang, who delivered my parts to Chickasha. He said both of these kits are made by Snyders and there is, indeed, a difference...

You mean those things people use to wear grooves in their steering linkages?
Fix your steering and get rid of them. :)
Enter MTFCA: death wobble in Google.

I agree. Stupid band aid approach.

I used Photoshop. These pictures interest me since I am working on a 1912 Commercial Roadster with the mother-in-law seat. I have been a photographer since I was 14 (I am 67 now) and have spent hours and hours in darkrooms, etc. I know the old school photography well including the chemistry. What happens to these old photos is that the image may...

Thanks Bob.

This is the 2001 SCI-FI movie that turned to be was a predictor in the direction we’re going.
It’s closer than you think.

Use to be able to post pic from my phone without doing anything ,don't know why I had to start resizing

Allen,

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend and fellow Model T'er. I hope that you will find a photo and post it as he requested.

Denny

Those ring thingy's with the 4 internal tabs (I see 5 units) are bendix drive counterweights.
They have some value to a bendix restorer. Not to be arbitrarily pitched.

My dad straightened many pans without a jig. The jig doesn't straighten the pan, it only tells you when or if it's straight. (I know the jig can also act as an anvil in the straightening process. I'm not saying it isn't a valuable tool.) I wouldn't be surprised if the pan in the photo went from the press to a jig, to check their progress.

To prevent leaks I use clear RTV on my hose connections. It seals the connection and prevents corrosion. When you want to remove the hose simply twist and it comes right off.

Do you put the rtv inside the hose?

on the part the hose goes over.

And here I thought it was a rough town? Not that I would want to be too abrasive about it?

thanks Rich, just what the doctor ordered

😂 yes, pic was taken when trailer is new Tim. I think decals were added before I hauled a T. I previously had a 7’ wide 14’ enclosed trailer. Was almost impossible to exit a 26-27 T when driven in. Thankfully, 8.5’ width is common to most manufacturers. Don’t think I could negotiate my entry gate with a 20’ trailer.

Thanks for bumping this back. It was fun all over again.
Rich

The first time I mounted new clinchers it was a half-hour-per-tire struggle. Since I bought some 24 irons and have had the experience of using them a few times, the job is much easier. In fact, when I mounted a couple of new clinchers last week I forgot to powder the second one and still had it on the rim in well under five minutes. Some practice...

I would see if the tank needs cleaned, and if it is reasonabley free of debris, a mirror can be used on a sunny day to look into the tank for evidence of rusting, dirt, or fine debris suspended in the fuel. Do not use a flashlight! Have the tank full, and shake the car to stir up fine particles, then use the mirror to reflect sunlight into the...

Just checked the face and SOB. There is a star. Guess this one of those cams.
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Wonderful story and pictures. Thanks to both Bob and Jim for the good news. I very briefly considered buying the old Ford dealership in Lockhart when a new one was built. It began in 1926. It finally sold for $850 K. That’s why my consideration was ‘brief’.

26-28 Chevrolet I believe.

A member of the Houston MTFCA club says he has shaved high heads .150 with success. Someone on this forum has posted that they have shaved low heads .125, with success. Either way, to see any compression gain, the engine would have to have high compression pistons.

The easy answer is to fit another petcock. They are the same as those on the pan that are used to check the oil levels. Otherwise, follow Adrain's plan.

Not all Ford petcocks have a spring, washer and split pin to hold tension on the rotating piece. The early cars had a machined washer and a fancy set screw which was threaded into the end of the...

Non brass radiator well, not really such a thing or phased out, the radiators are still brass and restyled to be covered with a cowl on the 17 model and on.

That coil tester you have is used only to check out the secondary windings of coils. A good tester to have when you're out in the field to purchase coils and not get stuck with bad ones for a rebuilding..... Would that tester be the one that John Regan supplied ??

I’m always learning about rare T accessory parts and this is another one!
Just maybe you’ll find the rest of the oil filter but I doubt it will be easy. That’s another old T part that got thrown away over time that was laying in the corner of old garages.

A little touch up

Place the ad on HCCA Classifieds. They charge $$ for pictures tho.

What a treasure trove you are assembling. Each one has special charms. I will work from some as time permits. I hope you don't mind.
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks.
Rich

Norman,
There were about 120 Model T's from 23 states and Canada. We had planned the tour with hopes of even greater attendance, but were pleased with the results considering last June was a time of the highest gasoline prices in history. An excellent article about the Wonderful Wisconsin Tour was printed in the September-October, 2022 issue of...

Thanks John, that was the type of installation I am interested in! By the way Dan, they make them in a 120MPH version so it could work for guys like you too! ;)

Frank,

Thank you for your help by posting the image.

Don

The 6 volt Optima has terminals central at each end of the battery. They can also be mounted each way around. Generally in a T battery carrier they are mounted diagonally anyway, so it is easy to get the terminals organised to suit the cable lengths.

Allan from down under.

------ Auto Industries of 12 October 1922 (p 748) carried the following story, ' Rouge Plant Builds Most of Ford Bodies (Detroit 9 October).' The article states Ford is now building all bodies for its models (cars?) at the River Rouge Plant. The reason was the termination/sale of the Beaudette Company, Pontiac, Michigan to Fisher Bodies. The...

I have been running aluminum gears on my T's and not very noisy. My hearing is quite good. I can hear my wife and son talking 2 rooms away with the doors open. They are about 40 feet away. Sometimes even hear neighbors talking. The next house is about 200' away. I would NOT use a fiber gear especially with a generator. Fiber has a reputation for...

Three years is good for a battery
In my diesel dually I run Walmart
premium batteries because they
have a full 3 year free replacement
policy with no pro rating.
Everyone else has one year
free replacement- then pro rated.

FJ

I think any kind of load would be OK to keep the Delco generator from running away. In normal service, the generator would run from time to time to charge the batteries or carry a load, or both. A string of incandescent light bulbs or a DC motor or 2 or 3 cheap 120 v electric heaters in a parallel setup would probably do for a load. A battery...

I used that line on some Marines in an armored unit who were displaying a tank.
You guys are gonna shoot someone's eye out! and they just laughed.
That movie was HILARIOUS!

The photo shows my two originals on the right, then two of the four originals I purchased, and then the four that came with the radiator support package. Any comments?