MTFCA Forum

I wanna go on that tour so so bad! But the 4 day drive out and another back with hotels and fuel its just too much cost for me.

Do your homework Steve! 1915 brackets are all by themselves. I think they are being reproduced in brass. You may luck out and find an original. I bought a NOS original from Alvin Anderson back in the sixties for $3! How many of you remember him?

There is nothing like the originals! A simple 3/16 cable to an equalizer, and a clamp to the standard brake pedal. The new ones work well, but why did Jack Sunderlin do it this way? He started off making them correctly, but got side tracked and thought all equalizers were alike, and that is why they now use the Bennett style equalizer. If he would...

Good advice - all. Thanks ! I was given the correct muffler shell kit for an earlier ‘3 bolt’ muffler and truthfully didn’t know there was a difference in it and the later ‘1 bolt’ kit. So I called the “delivery boy”, Steve Lang, who delivered my parts to Chickasha. He said both of these kits are made by Snyders and there is, indeed, a difference...

You mean those things people use to wear grooves in their steering linkages?
Fix your steering and get rid of them. :)
Enter MTFCA: death wobble in Google.

I agree. Stupid band aid approach.

I used Photoshop. These pictures interest me since I am working on a 1912 Commercial Roadster with the mother-in-law seat. I have been a photographer since I was 14 (I am 67 now) and have spent hours and hours in darkrooms, etc. I know the old school photography well including the chemistry. What happens to these old photos is that the image may...

Thanks Bob.

This is the 2001 SCI-FI movie that turned to be was a predictor in the direction we’re going.
It’s closer than you think.

Use to be able to post pic from my phone without doing anything ,don't know why I had to start resizing

Allen,

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend and fellow Model T'er. I hope that you will find a photo and post it as he requested.

Denny

Those ring thingy's with the 4 internal tabs (I see 5 units) are bendix drive counterweights.
They have some value to a bendix restorer. Not to be arbitrarily pitched.

My dad straightened many pans without a jig. The jig doesn't straighten the pan, it only tells you when or if it's straight. (I know the jig can also act as an anvil in the straightening process. I'm not saying it isn't a valuable tool.) I wouldn't be surprised if the pan in the photo went from the press to a jig, to check their progress.

To prevent leaks I use clear RTV on my hose connections. It seals the connection and prevents corrosion. When you want to remove the hose simply twist and it comes right off.

Do you put the rtv inside the hose?

on the part the hose goes over.

And here I thought it was a rough town? Not that I would want to be too abrasive about it?

thanks Rich, just what the doctor ordered

😂 yes, pic was taken when trailer is new Tim. I think decals were added before I hauled a T. I previously had a 7’ wide 14’ enclosed trailer. Was almost impossible to exit a 26-27 T when driven in. Thankfully, 8.5’ width is common to most manufacturers. Don’t think I could negotiate my entry gate with a 20’ trailer.

Thanks for bumping this back. It was fun all over again.
Rich

The first time I mounted new clinchers it was a half-hour-per-tire struggle. Since I bought some 24 irons and have had the experience of using them a few times, the job is much easier. In fact, when I mounted a couple of new clinchers last week I forgot to powder the second one and still had it on the rim in well under five minutes. Some practice...

I would see if the tank needs cleaned, and if it is reasonabley free of debris, a mirror can be used on a sunny day to look into the tank for evidence of rusting, dirt, or fine debris suspended in the fuel. Do not use a flashlight! Have the tank full, and shake the car to stir up fine particles, then use the mirror to reflect sunlight into the...

Just checked the face and SOB. There is a star. Guess this one of those cams.
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Wonderful story and pictures. Thanks to both Bob and Jim for the good news. I very briefly considered buying the old Ford dealership in Lockhart when a new one was built. It began in 1926. It finally sold for $850 K. That’s why my consideration was ‘brief’.

26-28 Chevrolet I believe.

A member of the Houston MTFCA club says he has shaved high heads .150 with success. Someone on this forum has posted that they have shaved low heads .125, with success. Either way, to see any compression gain, the engine would have to have high compression pistons.

The easy answer is to fit another petcock. They are the same as those on the pan that are used to check the oil levels. Otherwise, follow Adrain's plan.

Not all Ford petcocks have a spring, washer and split pin to hold tension on the rotating piece. The early cars had a machined washer and a fancy set screw which was threaded into the end of the...

Non brass radiator well, not really such a thing or phased out, the radiators are still brass and restyled to be covered with a cowl on the 17 model and on.

That coil tester you have is used only to check out the secondary windings of coils. A good tester to have when you're out in the field to purchase coils and not get stuck with bad ones for a rebuilding..... Would that tester be the one that John Regan supplied ??

I’m always learning about rare T accessory parts and this is another one!
Just maybe you’ll find the rest of the oil filter but I doubt it will be easy. That’s another old T part that got thrown away over time that was laying in the corner of old garages.

A little touch up

Place the ad on HCCA Classifieds. They charge $$ for pictures tho.

What a treasure trove you are assembling. Each one has special charms. I will work from some as time permits. I hope you don't mind.
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks.
Rich

Norman,
There were about 120 Model T's from 23 states and Canada. We had planned the tour with hopes of even greater attendance, but were pleased with the results considering last June was a time of the highest gasoline prices in history. An excellent article about the Wonderful Wisconsin Tour was printed in the September-October, 2022 issue of...

Thanks John, that was the type of installation I am interested in! By the way Dan, they make them in a 120MPH version so it could work for guys like you too! ;)

Frank,

Thank you for your help by posting the image.

Don

The 6 volt Optima has terminals central at each end of the battery. They can also be mounted each way around. Generally in a T battery carrier they are mounted diagonally anyway, so it is easy to get the terminals organised to suit the cable lengths.

Allan from down under.

------ Auto Industries of 12 October 1922 (p 748) carried the following story, ' Rouge Plant Builds Most of Ford Bodies (Detroit 9 October).' The article states Ford is now building all bodies for its models (cars?) at the River Rouge Plant. The reason was the termination/sale of the Beaudette Company, Pontiac, Michigan to Fisher Bodies. The...

I have been running aluminum gears on my T's and not very noisy. My hearing is quite good. I can hear my wife and son talking 2 rooms away with the doors open. They are about 40 feet away. Sometimes even hear neighbors talking. The next house is about 200' away. I would NOT use a fiber gear especially with a generator. Fiber has a reputation for...

Three years is good for a battery
In my diesel dually I run Walmart
premium batteries because they
have a full 3 year free replacement
policy with no pro rating.
Everyone else has one year
free replacement- then pro rated.

FJ

I think any kind of load would be OK to keep the Delco generator from running away. In normal service, the generator would run from time to time to charge the batteries or carry a load, or both. A string of incandescent light bulbs or a DC motor or 2 or 3 cheap 120 v electric heaters in a parallel setup would probably do for a load. A battery...

I used that line on some Marines in an armored unit who were displaying a tank.
You guys are gonna shoot someone's eye out! and they just laughed.
That movie was HILARIOUS!

The photo shows my two originals on the right, then two of the four originals I purchased, and then the four that came with the radiator support package. Any comments?

My mistake wrong place #2 is the Mitchell

this may be what you are looking for. Warford Bearings.pdfCraig.

Craig, that is exactly what I need. I had seen this list earlier, but like a moron did not realize that the '23-'24 style IS the aluminum case and the later '25-'27 style is the Iron case.

That's what I get for looking at this at night when I'm tired..lol! :D

William, They are spoken for. Sorry.

Bruce

...I am rebuilding my wheels...
Your wheels originally came from the factory with ball bearings. Later, about 1920, Ford changed to Timken roller bearings. The roller bearing cups were easily removed by hitting them from the back with drift and a hammer. But a drift could not reach the low-profile Timken cups. So Ford added notches to the hubs...

In case anyone wants to print out Frank's sheet this may assist:

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All batteries have standard sizes.

There is one 12 volt battery that very close to those 6 Volt dimensions.

What most people don't realize is that 12 volt battery has six more cell walls and three more cell partitions.

Tha situation results in far fewer internal plates that make the electricity.

That situation also results in the battery...

Tripple gear bushings are prone to locking up, so extra clearance is a good idea during a rebuild.
Even with extra clearance, they cant be run dry.
That goo will not lube those bushings or the drum bushings either for that matter.
Lurching problem solved.
I hope you will be able to disassemble the transmission without destroying it.
There is...

I'd like to hold the fun projects regulator in my hot little hand, if you have no further use for it!

Allan from down under.

That's the idea Steve. I have a collection of 4 gallon drums with half the top cut off, leaving the handle in place to tote them. Brass in one, copper in another, extruded aluminium in another, and one for electrical wiring. My son brings home stuff from his work installing solar systems. Lots of good clean copper wire and extruded alloy in the...

On. One axle the keyway extended too far outward, where the seal lip contacted. I filled in this area of the keyway.
The seal has been working for atheist 4000 miles.

Art Mirtes

The 26 truck on BAT looks like the one from John Lemon’s collection. Pics are still on the form in the vehicle section. the last post was in February of 2021.

Steve, which works out to be cheaper?

Paying for shipping twice on two orders with no import tax.

Paying for shipping once on one order and paying the import tax.

I'm still looking Craig has a 13 and 14 beautiful ones but are show cars. I need a driver and something I can either restore or put
my touch to.

I'd go with what Scott recommends - follow what Ford did. Also, to second Pat, I'd definitely go with steel line. I have an under-seat tank but discovered this when my copper-nickel brake line (gas line) started leaking at the carb shut-off valve. Vibration did this to the ends. Left one was in the sediment bowl, right one in the carb....

When I was a kid in the 50s, I pumped gas one tine from a visible gas pump. It was a lot of work to get 10 gallons up so it could be drained out, but a memory that has lasted a lifetime.

Thanks, i guess I'll put it on my '14.

They did on the later models. An exception would be 1926-27 cars with the Vaporizer set-up.

Bryce; I've done maybe 7-8 of the U&Js and the first one had no float (just the hinge). I bought the black float material from Langs but without knowing the correct dimensions, made a float that was way too thick, like around 5/8-3/4 thick. I set it so the top was level with the body when inverted but had a too lean mixture as the size of the...

I just looked on line and found one on MacMaster Carr:

Yes, there are lots of other sizes, not all are listed on most tap/die/drill charts.

It may be a 3, I figured it was 2 with a neutral. I'll pull the cover before we get it going, may not be able to see much without pulling the bed.

Adam, I agree. The attendance is off, but I have never went and not sold enough to pay for the spaces and trip, as well as making enough to get everything I bought basically free. We camp on the spaces, so we are there every minute available to shop and sell. I have sold stuff as late as 10.30 PM. Staying on the spaces also leaves extra money...

I've had some good results tightening things like that by putting coarse grit, like coarse valve grinding compound, between the surfaces and then clamping. Coarse emery cloth might do as well.

Many early gasoline vehicles and many stationary engines used buzz coils. They work well on single cylinder applications and on very low speed multi-cylinder engines. In the case of engines with 4 or more cylinders operating at speeds over 600 RPM or so, time to fire of each individual coil can become an issue, with the result being that each...

Hi Brian,
If you are unable to contact Jay Cramer I have a copy of the original Hudson Wagon Works plans. They are a copy so I'm sure the ones Jay has
are much better.
Craig.

Here are a few more pics of the Studebaker, It was a pretty nice car.
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Hi Matthew,
I'm referring to the end you are having trouble getting the U/joint part out of that appears to be TT shaft size. That
seem to be the rear of your tranny. On a RM its the front that the tube clamps in. I'm thinking you have a adapted set
up and will need to do more adapting to make it work for what you want. I will try to take pics...

Jim, I am not subscribed to it, so I thought it was a simi annual rag. Bi-monthly huh? Okay I'll make a note of that, thanks. :)

Thanks for posting you guys !

FJ

Scott C. makes a good point.
Sometimes when we get started restoring a T it’s really tempting to add all new parts as much as possible and especially the fasteners. You can find cans of nuts, bolts, radiator springs and etc in boxes on trailers and pickups at swap meets from others who gathered them up from home or wherever.
It’s best to keep...

It's nice to be able to see the way automotive engineering, configuration, and styling advanced through the decades. I think it's good for people too young to have seen cars older than about year 2000, let alone pre-WWI & WWII cars, to see them up close.

A great time as always. I sold a lot and bought a lot. I got a couple of Weaver Auto Twin Jacks, an original ruckstell shift link rod, part of a set of very early pre-beehive hasslers to hang on the wall, a Chicago Mark-E trans, an original metal battery box cover, etc, etc, etc. It’s also great to catch up with friends I rarely see....

You're welcome

You are most welcome.

If in good shape, the Zenith is a wonderful carb...I just didn't want to see you struggle starting the engine with an unknown commodity...might have been just fine, but you just never know.

Best of luck and keep everyone posted with your progress

There will be a few T people in attendance. I went for the first time last year and came home with a couple of goodies.

Some are marked inside on the skirt. Jahns comes to mind.

Noted!
Bryant

Mark is correct about the need for the lug nearest the valve stem hole needing to be elongated a little downwards and to the right. Then the rim/ tyre assembly is fitted a little askew with the valve stem in place, and rotated into position. On Chevs, the valve stem is much closer to the nearest lug, and that lug had to be slotted to enable...

Kim, that would be appreciated, thanks. I am now thinking that switch is not wired correctly. That's about all it could be.

I cut some sheet rubber to match the belly pan shape, no adhesive, and installed a few years ago only to be lubricated by leaky oil level valves from the side of the pan

Besides the missing blade, one would also need the cone cutter to get things centered and started.

Your spring has a totally different profile than the 7 leaf spring. This design was adopted in 1925, They added one more leaf, and lowered the profile 1 inch. You need to find the correct spring.

That how it appears now, but there being no weight, I would not totally assume its an earlier incorrect spring.
Deal with it after the car is all...

Go ahead and use it! It looks to be in nice shape. So many of them have a big groove in them.

One of the most frequently asked questions with multiple responses. You likely to get confused - oil vs grease and related viscosity
Just buy this

I agree. Another area that's way over-thunk! It's made specifically for this purpose, I use it with no issues. I keep a bottle on hand for the infrequen top-offs .

Something lightweight and rigid, like 3/4 X 3/4 square tubing, would probably work well. I'd space the bolt holes on the braces about 1/8 to 1/4 over the measurement between the factory bolt holes, and put spacers through the bolt holes to prevent the tubing from crushing when the bolts are tightened. I'd put them on the front and back, and make...

Happy St. Patrick's Day !

The main practical difference between starting on MAG and starting on BAT is that on magneto you have to move it fast enough to produce sufficient voltage. When the voltage is coming from the battery, any movement at all will do.