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If you look at the spring perch nuts, they’re scripted too.

Brad

This thread made me think of Harold too. I remember visiting him several times while he was set up to take the product from barrels and put it in to the cans for shipping. It was simple, put the can under the spigot, open the spigot, close the spigot and put the cap on. It was like a little cottage industry, with his grandkids helping.

Doug, check the link from 2013 regarding Fordor doors. David's post summarizes the issue.

The 23-24 Fordor used the wood framed doors. The 25-27 Fordor used the all steel door. The later door will fit all Fordors, but is correct for 25-27.

The wood framed doors on the 24 Coupe I believe are the same size as the Fordor, but they are...

Got the alternator final assembled and bolted to the motor last weekend. Tonight’s project was making new oil lines DUN!

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I agree with Mark. I did this job rust yesterday on an old wheel hub that I cleaned up for a spare. Will get new races & bearings & seal and have a spare for myself or someone else.

If you want to enjoy antique cars and you’re on a budget Model T’s are the way to go. You can enjoy a good running car that’s already had the work done on it in the 8000.00 to 18.000.00 price range from the Black era to the Brass era. That’s not including the very early Brass cars.
With that said the overall prices have risen some but not much....

I would like to get a few bad rims really cheap. I have a couple really old tires I want to mount on rims and air up to maybe ten pounds just to to preserve and display them. A few of the tires I have are 20 inch rims, but even a twenty-one inch model T could be altered to work. Cut just over three inches off one end of the circle and they will...

The things you learn! I have never seen that centre piece turned up to lock the clamps. Doing so may reduce the te-use of the clamps though

Allan from down under.

One thing I failed to mention and you may not know if this is your first attempt at hand cranking on MAG:

if your timer is CORRECTLY adjusted for safe battery hand cranking with the lever fully retarded, then unless you advance the timer lever 3-4 notches prior to cranking, you will most likely NEVER get the car started on MAG, as the timing for...

Edmund, the book has 135 pages and virtually every page has one or more photo's.
I am a good friend of Chris's he lives only about 15 minutes away from me.
Wayne, he is OK as a matter of fact he is off to France in the next few months to meet up with
Model T guys there after last year going to a book launch in France.
The quickest and easiest way...

In terms of testing the coils, a solenoid fed with a mains frequency sine wave would also work.

I finally resolved this issue by installing a new flasher. Nothing else made any difference.

Thanks for updating, was the new unit the same make/model?

Luke.

You mean the ring and pinion isn’t lubricated with 30 W non detergent Steve ??😜😜😂... just kidding. Thanks for all responses. I’ve decided not to mix grease - just take the full grease cup cap to a trusted auto parts guy and buy a tube of the same non moly stuff.

Which way to Sanctuary of the Pines? :)

I'm thinking that the picture is of the signs that were to be placed along various routes to the tree preserve near Lebec CA. The car likely belonged to the Dealership rather than the Hotel but Haberfelde may have had an interest in the Hotel

So first the picture of the car in front of the Hotel &...

No problem. It will be fine. If it's glossy and you don't like that for chassis parts, like me, just scuff it up with steel wool before you install it.

Jennny, I believe Original Larry was considering buying a Model T back then.

Nice video and great photos!

I’ve set up for small scale copper and nickel using vinegar. This works for hardware sized parts, stronger acids are said to work better on larger parts…

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Thanks again Craig. I see a lot of familiar faces.

Andy

In MHO, the article is a vast simplification of what made the Model T so successful.

I prefer to describe it as a large number of interrelated compromises that ultimately proved successful. The study of those compromises has fascinated me for over half a century.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess

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That was probably a rather expensive acessory, but in Northern states it would make sense.

A duplicate, but with the roofline dropped about 3 , would make a stylish sedan or coupe out of a ragtop T.

One reason for the high rooflines back in the day was the fact that most people wore hats, and some womens' hat styles added about a foot to their...

One steel head I bought had the holes drilled slightly larger and tapped with a Metric size.

That has worked well in the past for the 14-24 screws in the Bendix cover too.

It might work elsewhere.

Dish soap and water and a nylon scrub brush should suffice.

Years ago on modern cars, I always used Westleys Bleche-Wite and a brass bristle whitewall brush on new whitewalls to remove the blue protectant and as part of my regular car washing routine. However, Bleche-Wite is caustic (or at least back then it was) and, over time, does more harm...

Hi Erik,
On second thought you are correct there is no float in that carb I was thinking bowl not float sorry if I miss spoke.
Craig.

Thanks Ron it was fun testing.

In 1926, The Coleman Company published what they called The Coleman Motor Campers Manual, written by Frank E. Brimmer.

I'm fortunate enough to own one of these in very good condition. It describes essentially what is outlined in the Dykes Manual, except advertisements for Coleman camping equipment are dispersed throughout the book.

I flip...

Thank you Mike, I hope to join you amongst the TT’ers soon!

Yes, that's a good one too. AACA has this one called Period images to relieve some of the stress. 497 pages!!!

Aren't we lucky to have these at hand?
Rich

Installing wood bands hard enough with hogs head OFF
Kevlar only way to go but setting them up and driving right with them need more pedal movement and when you push to use you push nothing half a??
Woods ok but chatter cotton was desasster had it go everywhere but when it worked it worked
Liked ole Scandinavian linings great mix of all options...

Allen,
Your suggestion of putting the nuts and washers on the brake shafts before setting the hogshead is an excellent idea. I hadn't thought of that.

Art Mirtes

In the 70’s I bought a bunch of T parts, a T frame , a pretty complete T trailer and a mostly complete 38 Ford flat bed pickup that was in fairly decent shape.
This was at a farm auction and the 38 Ford was thrown in with the other T stuff so it would sell. I bid 35.00 and the auctioneer yelled sold!

I made a deal with with a guy that would...

Happy Easter!!!

Jeff,
I’ve seen Model K increase steadily in value over the last few years. As a personal aside, a good friend bought this K, and I’m thrilled he and his family have it, and that it will be driven and tour regularly. I’m looking forward to four 1907 Ford Model K on tour together in the near future.
Cheers,
Rob

It is very important that you video tape your first attempt at starting your T. You won’t regret it and you can post it here so we can share in your celebration.

Best of luck. I have never been able to get my button back on the shaft so that it works. I finally just bought a different button that sits on top of the shaft.

An over fourteen million serial number makes it a very late 1926! September 1926 many people would consider to be a 1927 model! So not likely a crossover oddity.
Given the serial number on the frame, it most likely would be a proper 1926 frame. However, you should confirm many 1926 details. Correct frame and cross members, proper (lower) front...

Reminds me of the Gilligan's island episode when the radio announcer erroneously reported that Howell industries had collapsed, so mister Howell and Lovey started training on the island to get new jobs. Later the announcer corrected the company name to Powell industries, so the Howells were still rich. :)

Sorry that should have been Big Flats Rivet Company ....
Regards
Steve

I’ve had at least 1 early spool where the drill/ machining process came through the outside of the casting. Most all the Ford information says the change from the Babbitt rear drive shaft bearing to a roller bearing was at car number 15,000.

My IXL connecting rod aligner from the 1920’s has the same capability.

Good point. Likely even more easily done on a surface plate (-or even a Mill table) using two sets of ground 1-2-3 Blocks, a couple pieces of precision ground bar, and a Mic. (-or Calipers).

EXACTLY!!!

Norman, There have also been a couple batches of head bolts made over the last four decades that are a couple turns too long, so the fault MAY not be 100% yours …

Cool find on the pic!
Not old enough but I watched that before on the Carson channel. Glad to watch it tonight!
:lol: :lol:

If you do not want to remove the outlet from the head you have to pull the radiator forward. Disconnect the upper tank support rod. Loosen the radiator bolts on the frame. Hopefully you have enough thread to do this without taking off the nuts. Remove the clamps and twist the hose. Hopefully it is loose enough and you can tilt the radiator forward...

Anyone have a spare Fronty exhaust manifold?

-Keith

Another pic

Thanks Guys ….
I wasn’t sure if Teflon would be good with gasoline ….
I’ll let y’all know how it works out …

A tornado touched down March 31, in Batavia, IL. On the other side of town from me. I don't believe there was much damage beyond trees uprooted. We had hail stones 2 in diameter.

Older farm trailers and equipment have very similar spindles.

These senior moments are a real pain I'm concerned about the size of the male end of the U/joint and it's a shortened drive shaft for a Warford.
Fits great in a early warford, may even be an advantage. I hope your solution is as easy.
Craig.

You can get the glass bowl filters with both side & top inlets. I have a top inlet on my firetruck. Most have a shutoff valve on them & can be
purchased @ NAPA, Tractor Supply and suppliers like Steiner Tractor.
Craig.

I used a repro harness from Snyders when I rewired the car. However, for the added wiring such as brake light, indicators, etc. I simply used plastic wiring threaded through black shoe lace, and bound at the ends with black cotton.

Thanks, Tom!
The first car looks to be a Hayes bodied touring. If I had to put a date on it, I'd say 1912. The side curtain fastener are at the top of the fore-door. Earlier cars had the side curtain fasteners at the bottom of the door opening, like on the non-fore-door cars. My car has them under the fore-doors. Don't ask me how one would get in...

Norman, apart from the different tread pattern your Insane tyres are well made and give good, long service. Treasure them. The others from the usual suppliers are nowhere near as good.
Allan from down under.

Thank you Rich B! It is nice to feel appreciated once in awhile. Your insightful comments and contributions always bring a smile to my face.

Nice work Les. What did you source the distributor from? Some of the Model A guys have retrofitted a '70's Honda centrifugal / vacuum advance distributor with excellent results. However, the supply of these distributors seems to be drying up.

Looks similar to Hidem Welting.
The trim piece for around the roof.

Michigan requires a bill of sale, appraisal, and sometimes a bond if the value of the car is high enough. Rural DMV offices are a lot easier to work with than those in the big cities. Visit your Secretary of State website and see what they require for obtaining a title for a vehicle that doesn't have one.

Its a great looking truck Terry. I think you have more to start with than I did. I took mine piece by peice and rebuilt it. Tim Morsher was a great help on pieces I was missing. I really enjoy seeing these old trucks coming back to life. Keep us posted on any progress.

Lucas Tire co. Wards Riversides!

Ed aka #4

A good start would be the cover page for each issue of the Ford Service Bulletins. Just about every issue had the name and address of a Ford dealer that had done something to impress Ford Corporate. Each was a story about the dealer.
One of our local dealers made the cover for building Fordson into tractors for the iron ore mines here. Dan

I believe the only thing wrong with Penzoil is the higher price that subsidizes its expensive advertising. A less costly brand is fine if it has the API seal on the container.

This is his website. That is a good place to start.

MTFCI regional Model T tour begins Sunday following the swap meet. 3 days of touring the beautiful Shenandoah Valley. We will be traveling along the Shenandoah River and the Skyline Drive. Visiting Caverns, Civil War Battlefield, covered bridge, car museums, Cooters garage, brewery and much more. Come join us for T fun. Miles and miles of country...

Hi Craig, Love your idea! It looks like a perfect fit? Did you feel this was the best size to order after your install? What size hole punch did you use to end up with a nice tight fit? I see a Rockauto price of 3.50 for two!

Thanks

If you're replacing the timing gear, you should also replace the generator gear. In your one photo it appears well worn. Running a worn generator gear against a new timing gear will make for a noisy mesh.

No apology necessary Scott, Sharing individual experiences on what works well from different perspectives is what makes the forum so great and clarification is welcome.

My specific comment pertained specifically to the Bold highlighted portion of your statement. I added the whole quote for context. Your clarification captured it very well.

I use bronze on my tie rod and spring shackles. Works good.

The problem got resolved today. As it turns out, the crank length had been shortened years ago. As soon as I compared it to other cranks that I had, it became obvious what to do. The short one now sits on the shelf…

Les, sent an e-mail with pics ...

Here is some pro and con about changing to 12 volt in old tractors which might apply to any old 6 volt engines.

As far as Model T’s are concerned the original set up 6 volt worked for years and still works until you think you can improve upon it but why. To each his own in that dept.

The thing I worried about was how much tension should be on the truss.? Maybe others will add some insight about how to determine the proper preload?

Isn't it nice to have folks like Ben who know what to do and are willing to help? It's great to see the switch all cleaned up and so pretty.
Rich

Only if you have a machine shop at your house and all your chores are done! Nothing is impossible if it can be imagined .., N. Tesla

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As a mater of fact, I do have a machine shop in my home, but my chores are definitely not done! Do you have drawings for those?

I was going t mention that I was fortunate to have Hank make me a...

Ours held right around 2qts if I remember correctly

I think the overall Model T paint was was pretty shiny for a while. After a month or so in the weather and maybe being washed and dried off a few times that’s when the sheen started to change unless the owners may or may not have used some type of polish on it. There weren’t many if at all black top roads either. After a few years in the country a...

I've seen a lot of old, poor quality die castings crumble and fall apart. Indoors or out, it doesn't matter. Often, other die castings in the same piece of equipment are as-new. Pre-WWII radios and phonographs often had pot metal parts, and indoor storage did not proetct the vulnerable parts.

The only issue I’ve had with the 5014RE switch is the fact that the holes on the switch did not line up with the holes on my frame but it’s no big deal if you don’t mind a bit of drilling.

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May solve the letters and could be a special key they made
Perhaps a key blank was modified for a special lock, not for a car
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