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I have two 1914 T runabouts. One I restored and one the late, great Ed Messenger restored. My question concerns the front fender style. Pictured is the ‘shallow’ lip and pronounced bill lip. Both have, what I believe, is the correct 4 rivet fender iron bracket.. Your thoughts ?

Is this 21 split rim worth salvaging? it is sprung and even when ends are spread apart and are butted together the rim is not straight. The hole and the threads for the locking bolt are oversized and would have to be repaired, but the rim has been galvanized and no tire mounted since.
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For the folks running Aermore whistles, do you point the whistle pipes forward? I can’t find pictures but that seems to make the most sense.

Arrived in the mail. One brick is broken/missing.

Came wrapped in a page from the Detroit News, dated December 2nd, 1925

Going to get a Clark foot warmer next!

I am getting ready to install a one wire battery horn on my 22. It’s the one that mounts with a head bolt and a water outlet bolt. The parts are painted so I need to get a good ground through the bracket to the bolt/block. I was thinking of just using a split washer and letting it scrape the paint on the bracket. Alternatively, I could use one of...

A short while ago I posted about my Ruckstell being engaged all the time. Due to a series of events only a Model T owner could experience, I was left with no shifter but instead had the shift lock on the axle to reckon with. Nothing was working to get the Ruckstell disengaged so I could take a joy ride.

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I have two Holley 4500 carbs for 1911. One has a data or name under the air valve held with small drive pins. The other has no plate or holes for the drive pins. What's with that? Do other early Holley carbs have this difference? The Holleys I've seen for NRSs all have name plates.
Also is anybody reproducing these plates?

Good evening Forum Chums

I’m trying to upload a YouTube link to the video of my 27 T…… I hope it works… good grief, I can a 122 million dollar airplane, but can’t upload a video…lol!

Here goes!

Just what book or books are referred to as the Model T Bible. Wanting to settle a discussionn.

I was discussing transverse spring suspension with a Model A guy, and it got me wondering who developed three point suspension for the Model T? Did they innovate it themselves, or did they copy someone else?

Looking at the steering gear bracket on my TT, It sure looks to me that the design intent was a spacer bushing between the bracket and the frame. One was not present on my TT nor is one shown in the price list of parts in the TT section. The actual bracket bears casting number TT932, which is Factory No.TT996 and Part No. 3539C St. Brkt with...

Is the P139 thrust plate interchangeable between the Hal Scott and the Ruchstell? The Hall Scott internal gear is shorter than the Ruckstell.

How come I can't load files (photos) like before? Nothings changed on my end.

I saw a posting on another forum about using propane for lamps. The guy said he got a bright light on his 1913 Metz lamps, and posted a photo. I looked it up, and propane burns at a lower temperature than acetylene (2800f vs 3100f). Propane tanks are easier to find (any hardware store). Any comments?

Phil

Gents.
I’m curious what the general thoughts are about investing extra money into our T’s to get them truely period correct?
Would you for example change the 1912 style front Axle and Spindles back to the correct 09/10 one piece style for a (March 1910) Car?
Other examples are swapping to a Kingston 5 Ball Carburettor and the earlier Pigs Head....

I was recently in Savannah GA, historic district. (which I recommend by the way) and while on a tour, the guide said that Henry used Spanish Moss in his model T's. Later I told the guide that I thought that was unlikely, mainly, I thought, due to the scale of the operation needed. So he did a bit of digging and send me this link, which seems to...

Does anyone know what material the rear end backing plates were made of in 1913 and 14?
Thank you
Craig

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I put about 500 miles per year on my Model T Ford (when I'm not recovering from surgeries or waiting out a pandemic) and in a dozen years of ownership, I've had but one single, solitary flat tire. And that was because some knucklehead had dumped a pile of building materials at the curb and after the trash was...

The flat top straps on my 27 roadser tend to flap and pop when driving the car at any speed above a walk. They are tight enough to stay against the underside of the top, but any breeze would set them flapping. I wire-tied thin wooden slats to the rear curtain straps, and that helped a lot, but I'd still get some flapping when driving on breezy...

Many thanks to the Country Roads T and A Club for putting on another great swap meet this past Saturday. The building was packed with many vendors and also several vendors outside in the parking lot. The quality of items for sale was the best of all of the 12 years we have been attending. And thanks to the many folks who came to buy. I’m guessing...

OK gents. Bud Williams will make a batch of RMB for TTs
per my previous post. Specifics are as follows:
Cost will be $850 + shipping. Includes brake rods and equalizer with the extension as required for TTs.
Optional pedal including shaft cost is $120.
Full installation instructions sre included.
As previously noted, the brakes do not self...

What an adventure that would have been. The hood sides are folded up or better cooling.
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The trees look like the Mammoth area.
Rich

Our friend Jim (1934 - 2019) built and drove his 1919 Speedster for many years. He liked to tell folks it was a Mercury and was built with Ford chassis parts. Some magazine articles he kept with him made a very convincing story. The tale of it being a bootleggers getaway car that was chased from Nebraska to Arco, ID was always fun to hear. Jim had...

Looking at the pictures of a set for sale and I have questions.
Does the yoke with the rods attach to the hand brake cross shift. When applying is the short double clevis rod hooked to the yoke and the extension on the brake pedal and thereby causing the yoke to rock and pull on the brake rods or is the clevis attached above the brake pedal shift...

Has anyone ever seen a 1916 with a hood and radiator configuration as pictured? The hood (nineteen louvers) sits on a low style radiator. Note where the hood sits on the cowl; not like originally on a '16. Modifications made somewhere along the line. Wondering if the hood was available as an aftermarket accessory back in the day. The most louvers...

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I have a brass carb with a bent throttle arm up by where the lever from the steering post enters. I am thinking about heating it with a torch and bending it after it cools. May have to do a a few times if it work hardens too fast for one try.
Here's my question. Can I do this on this part considering it is a bronze casting. I've done it on...

1927 Touring with wire wheels.
This is driving me nuts and I cant figure it out, so I built a rear axle from parts and when I put on my right rear hub without the brake band on I can here something dragging on the brake drum, it least it sounds like it's dragging on the drum, I can't figure what the hell it is.
Without the hubs on I and rotate the...

Hello, my name is Bruce. I've enjoyed this website for a lot longer than being a member and respect the knowledge contained here. Due to health issues my wife an I haven't been able to use our old cars for the last couple of years. We thought we should let someone else enjoy. I can estimate what my stock '26 model t tourer and my '26 Chevy touring...

It is my understanding that 1926 wheels were made by Ford, Kelsey and Hayes for 30 x 3 1/2 tires. Can one mix and match between all three steel rims and all three wooden wheels? In other words can a Ford rim be put on a Kelsey wheel or Hayes wheel? The wheels seem to have a different prefix numbers so perhaps they may be different.

I need to remove the torque tube and driveshaft from the TT rear end. It is already off the frame. What is the procedure?

I replaced the steel freeze plugs in the 22 last year, because they were rusty and leaking. I used brass ones with some sealer, but while doing some work I noticed that they show signs of weeping and minor corrosion. I am using antifreeze. I can easily replace them, but what are folks using to seal these?

I am in the process of rebuilding a 1914 Model T Ford rear end. I have found that one side leaks at the rivets.
What is the best or easiest way to repair/fix this problem? Would J P weld around the rivets on the inside work?
Thank you, Craig,

What size would the belt on a 1924 model t with a water pump be? What is the best type of belt?
Thanks in advance,
Jacob Mangold

I am getting ready to install the splash pans on my coupe. I assume the ears that attach to the engine go under a nut and not between the oil pan and the block.

Is the bolt circle for the brake drum on the Model T improved wood spoke wheel the same as that found on the 1925 and prior models?

Will 1926 wood spoke wheels fit on the 1925 after swapping the drums?

Thanks!

Tom
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So I found some top sockets for my 24 roadster at the Marietta swap meet yesterday. It came with 1 rear set of sockets and bow, one center set of sockets and bow and two different lengths of front sockets.

One set puts the rear bow in line with the back of the seat and one set is longer and puts the rear top bow about 4 inches behind the seat...

I have a 1926 TT with a steel closed cab. It is equipped with a starter and generator but also has oil side lamps. Im missing the tail lamp and tail lamp/license plate mounting bracket. Should the tail lamp be an oil lamp? Or should it be an electric lamp? What would the bracket look like? Thanks.

Nice early box with the quadrant tight rivets.
Nice knurled top not messed up .
$150.00 plus shipping.
Tom Butterworth
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How many grains of corn will a hungry rooster eat in one hour? For being the best guesser, Mrs. Vera Casement was awarded the 15,000 votes offered in the prize popularity contest being conducted by Kuntz the clothier, 209 South Summit Street. Big Mike, the rooster in question ate 513 grains and Mrs. Casement's guess was 511. The voting for the...

An admirer of my car recently told me he felt that the seats looked like they belonged in a lounge, to use his word. My '23 Touring certainly has seats that bear no resemblance to anything in a modern car and I was wondering if they were perhaps modeled on upholstery you'd see in some of the nicer carriages that came before? Or maybe even a...

I wonder if it is possible to replace the front top bow on a 26 touring and save the top. I can't see how it happened since every other bow is solid and the top is pretty nice, though very old, but my front bow has nearly turned to dust. The top material attached to it is nice and solid. To me, it looks like I could carefully pull all the tacks...

Should I or should I not paint the part of the hubs that contact the wood spokes? I painted them but if that’s an issue, I can blast it off.

I have been working on my Kingston L4 today. The kit from Langs came with this felt plug. No instructions were included. I have looked through every source I can find but have not found any mention. It is showing as included in the kit photo on their website. Any ideas?
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Re: Installation of Engine Splash Pans

This thing with the splash pans is a result of no one understanding their true purpose.

Also it is a result of experts weighing in, giving their opinion as to why splash pans are a nuisance, or worse, a part that is not necessary...

Just a note, I have yet to re-find an article that covers testing splash...

In my part of the country T's wore tire chains for 9 months of the year-- either for mud or ice. Any idea where i would find a set of chains-- either new or old? (21 wheels) It seems like there should be a pair in every barn, but I've only seen one set for sale and that was a couple of years ago.

I just really want to know what it feels like to...

Check out the Model T 18-19 Coupe in the center of the photo. That era of Coupes were really neat looking. Maybe a few more T’s there too. The Texas old photo site guessed it’s around 1918. But maybe 1922 ? Or?

I think i fixed the surging problem with cleaning gas line and sediment bowls. It is still a little weaker than it used to be going from first to second with a mild up slope. This last weekend while trouble shooting, one of the buzz coils wasnt sparking at all while running but later i looked at it and it was sparking fine. also before starting,...

The climate is changing back to the way it was in the old days! I guess we need to refine more oil and drive our cars more often!
I have heard of Tornadoes, Floods, and massive power outages this winter. Have any of our members been affected? We have been very fortunate around here. I have been trimming up some tree branches this morning and came...

Hoping I don't regret the choice, I put a set of grey smoothie Firestones on Lizzie, they were offered as a deal I couldn't turn down. I reckon I'm no worse off at worst - the T-Drivers that were on were worn bald, so traction is at par :lol: and they're cute .

The T-Drivers were oversize , and the rear 30x3-1/2 tires ran awfully tight to the...

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I have a decent set of rear wire wheel drums I received with the rocky mountain brakes I purchased, my original hubs are shot so I'm thinking of buying new hubs from Snyder's, does the new hub just slip onto the drum and is held together by swedging the lugs or do I need to press the new hub onto the drum. Is swedging the lugs absolutely...

What is the thickness of the new spindle bolts sold today? I have new bushings in my front axle and some of my used bolts wont pass through. My bushings are .501

How are you guys overcoming the left-side Ruckstell shifter shaft interference with the master cylinder? I’m chewing on it right now and am considering mounting a second parking brake lever behind the original one to weld the Rux quadrant to, upright, rather than downward. Any possible solutions would be appreciated. Thanks.

My friend just bought a nice 1926 Sedan and its 6 volts. We have a problem starting it, when we step on the starter switch it just make a noise and it doesnt turn the engine. Sometimes it engages the engine but turn it enough to start the car, I checked for loose wires and even took the bendix cover off and the spring is not loose or broken. He...

I am getting ready to install the splash pans on my coupe. I assume the ears that attach to the engine go under a nut and not between the oil pan and the block.

How do I know if my bendix spring is good. I have the speedster project engine back together and now my starter is making a strange sound when cranking. I noticed my spring eyes were not lined up or straight across from each other. Is my spring weak and not letting the bendix act right ?? I am using a 12 volt battery and about 8 foot of small 12...

Checking my youtube stats, I'm shocked. Why did this video take off like it did?!? 289,449 views. I wish I could get that many views on all my Model T videos - I'd be back on the speedster project if I did!

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Scat Enterprise has new hours starting on March 6th... 5 AM PST to 445 PM PST.

Early photos show Base Model Touring likely came without a buggy rail. Hard to tell in those photos whether the carbide gas line was a standard hardware item. Any early enthusiasts care to opine as to whether, and why or why not?

With the long wait for a new Model T radiator, has anyone retrofitted any other type of new radiator to their cars.

Thanks in advance.
George Schmidt

Finally found an old school sign guy who uses a brush. Vinyl lettering on a 1920’s car just doesn’t work to give the right appearance. I’m happy with what he did. 6439BA28-D1ED-4148-85B0-EBB7B02DF05E.jpeg B06BB54D-ED75-4951-BCE1-EEE301000E28.jpeg 4E2E773B-0557-4BC0-9F69-1B9B8F5DBA53.jpeg 0545CEA0-8DAF-42A6-B714-13CFCDA3CF5F.jpeg

Does anyone know what material the backing plates were made from? I heard they were made from malleable iron. One of the backing plates on my rear end is bent and cracked, I don't remember being able to bend malleable iron that much.
Thank you.
Craig

Has anyone dealt with someone with a email handle of Pure Bull ? Wondering if it is legit or not.
Thank you
Craig

Hello all,

I recently bought this truck and I love it. I can tell that we're going to be good friends. It's a 1923 with what I assume is a dealer made bed (see the picture attached with the plate). The bed is kind of long and I think the plate and light need to be moved more to the rear rather than over the axle. I feel that it's just too far...

I have no connection with the seller.
Owner says it’s a 1909 comes partially restored parts list available.
$16,000 located in Pasadena CA

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Are the capacitors the same in all coils, and the points look to be either style?

Hi all!

This is a long shot as this actually refers to a transmission out of a Model A. But does anyone recognize the manufacturer mark of a W in a circle?

I tried the Model A Restorers Club group on Facebook, but so far have come up empty there. My gut tells me the casting for this transmission is newer than the early 30s, although I could be...

A friend in our local club recently acquired these valve seat cutters which were described as a set specifically for Model T engines.

I don't know enough to say, does this seem correct?

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I know this is not T but related to our hobby. I am confused on the dates for Hershey. They changed the days for last year so we entered the field on Monday morning for set up and finished on Friday for the car show. The yellow information sheet in the package for registration states that the fall meet is October 3,4,5,6,2023. October 3 is a...

I was just wondering what would be the best sealant for a copper clad head gasket. I would think putting it in dry would not be a good idea. Also I am installing a Z head so do not know if that makes any difference.

Thanks
Ron

Found this in my junk. Someone put a T front cover on a Chevrolet generator. This got me thinking about a distributor on a T. Problem is a T engine crankshaft gear has a different tooth count on the crank gear VS the generator gear. This would have to be corrected on the distributor drive.

Evening all.

I have this rear fender that I though was originally a late 09 to 1910. But the rivet pattern has me thinking it may not be Ford at all? Looks about the same size as my 1913 rears. The eye fender iron clamp and the sheet metal bracket look like Ford. A little stumped.

I am in need of transportation assistance from Chickasha to Salt Lake City Utah for a pair of jump seats and a pair of rims. If you have room available and can help me out on your way home, please get in touch.
Alan Dewsnup
Utah
alsfarms@hotmail.com

Put my rear wheel hub on my built from parts axle an see the backing plate sits flush with the wheel hub except where the spring perch is, the axle tube is not bent. Can I use it this way, at least for the summer, I am so sick and tired of this rear axle.

There have been some comments in the Classifieds about re-building plastic coils. I am starting a new thread on this.
In particular, has anyone successfully opened them up and replaced the capacitors in plastic boxed coils?
If so, how did you get the lid open? We have tried to pry them open but distorted the case.
Right now our local coil builder...

Looking at a1921 roadster with correct serial numbers on engine but the title has r e b letters before the same serial nembers that’s on engine . Has anyone ever seen those letters on a Ohio title? I’m thinking it may mean rebuild??? Thank you Tim Franko

86F87521-9AC5-4524-A9A4-63FA98F0B50A.jpeg I didn’t see one for February so here goes! drilled out crank pin holes to lessen tail shaft runout. Turned main shaft flange to true up to the crankshaft.

There has been a discussion on engine splash pans.

Some, begrudgingly, replace remove and replace the pans.

Others remove the pans completely and either discard, hang on wall, or sell. Left over parts.

Some will rebuild a starter or generator, motor, transmission and find that every thing is back together except a screw, gasket, or spring is...

As noted on the first message. Best John

I was recently gifted a worm and sector steering replacement unit for a model t. It was manufactured by the Standard Foundry Co in Nebraska. Nicely done perfect castings, adjustable on the worm and sector.

Has anyone seen or had one of these steering gears? Perhaps someone might have a catalog or instruction sheet? The one piece I did not get...

Often there's a lot of discussion on white tires, the accompanying grey tires, the development of black tires, and questions on the timeline when they all appeared or disappeared.

Mulling on all this with a friend, it came to mind that a time or two, 50-60 years ago, I came upon the odd 20s or older relic or Hoover wagon wearing the remains of...

I’ve been messing around in my shop and finally got my project where I want it. I was bothered during the build of my last car when I discovered I needed another hub due to mine was worn out only to discover no one made these new. So I aimed to solve that problem. I use 1045 bar stock that is harder than the originals and probably better balanced.

I notice Gator in Alabamee is advertising for a Stipe 280 cam. What's up with Stipe cams? Are all the vendors, out of stock? Is Stipe having a supply problem and out of material for production, or are they just too SNOWED under with production making other products that they inventory? I'm glad that I ordered my 290 cam when I did, or I might be...

I would like to import 40-21” drop center wheel rims from New Zealand. The manufacturer suggests using a US shipping agent as it may be less complicated to clear customs. I will use the rims to produce a limited run of adjustable wire spoked wheels for Model Ts. I live in Iowa but could travel to one of the inland ports to pick them up once they...

I'm putting a starter in a 15 T for a friend and have run in to an issue I don't know what to do. The car has a Hitatchi alternator, and I'm unsure on how to wire it. The lead to the battery is obvious, but there are two male spade lugs on the back I do not know how to wire. I assume one is for the idiot light and one is the exciter but I do not...

I’m seeking parts, info and help to complete a speedster build. I have a really nice Star Instruments model 25 (?) that I’d like to get working. I believe that it was rebuilt about 20 years ago as it has 70 something miles on it. It works but is a little stiff. All I have is the speedometer head.

It really is a good looker, but is now, just a...

The are about 1/2 in diameter
stamped FO MO CO
Notice the dimple at the end, does anyone know what the fit? Bob

Is there anyone near Reading PA that has Ruckstell axel rebuild experience? When I bolt in the driveshaft the pinion binds. Using the modern driveshaft spool. The spool is set per the instructions. I think at this point I need hands on help.

Thanks

Bryan

Another great one has gone to race against the others like Humble Howard Genrich on the race track in Heaven. We'll miss you!

RIP Fast Frank #22

I need my brass T radiator re-cored. I am in the Chicago suburbs. Can anyone recommend a radiator shop?

I’m working on my ‘24 touring and just took the top off the rear bow so now exposing it and see it is in need of replacing which I will do. I found the corners in tough shape and want to know how to go about replacing the wood in the rounded ends. I have not found anyplace where I can get replacement wood for these. Will appreciate any response....