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In the 10+ years I have been refurbishing HCCT meters I have accumulated a lot of parts.
One version of the Allen HCCT has a small Ammeter and Voltmeter.
They are normally all steel (see last photo).
In my box of donor meters were some with brass rings.
So I decided to assemble a set of brass meters.
No Allen HCCT ever came with brass meters.
But...

Just curious...Back ‘in the day’ the Scandinavian Band lining was a little better than the belt I wore in the army. Now we have Kevlar and wood that most T owners seem to use. I researched a Forum post of September 2014 where Trent Boggess advises against the detachable ‘ear’ bands with aluminum tranny covers. With better band material nowadays...

I was recently told that Ford was making an anniversery new model T in 2003 and it was all new, and there were 200 made before the NTSB shut it down due to modern safety standards. Is this true or just hog wash?

Has anyone used or is still using one of these Master Coils?

Are there any real benefits from using one?

Maybe it's time for this purist to swallow his pride and accept a newfangled retro-fit ? The timing gear cover camshaft seal is bleeding a wee bit more than I'd care to see on my 1913 T. Last time I dealt with it, I recall not feeling 100% assured the fix was a good one.

Does anyone have suggestions for dealing with or replacing the 1913 (and...

Thank you to Jim Golden for sending this to me. My 27 Fordor is in this video, along with the previous owners Bill and Rita Hunter. Jim makes an appearance or two in this film, along with Warren Kincaid and others. Enjoy a little blast from the past:

Can someone with a bare T frame measure the drop from the top of the frame rails to the center of the crossmember surface. Lay a straightedge across the rails and measure down. My TT is 5 1/4”. I’m trying to determine the difference between a TT and a std. T.
Thanx in advance!

I am really struggling with my local mill who I have used for the last 10-15 years to supply me with Ash hardwood for us to use in creating body infrastructure wood. Evidently the Ash Borer has pretty much eradicated standing Ash timber in my area, so I need to either travel to purchase 6/4 or 8/4 stock, -or find an affordable ($5.00 a board ft is...

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I am doing a tuneup on my brakes and outer axle bearings and seals but one of my inner seals won’t budge. The other one came out with a pair of mechanic’s magnets (the ones on long rods). I tried using a long mechanic’s pick but there is nowhere to get the pick in and I don’t want to scratch the axle.

Any advice on how to get it out? I was...

I'm pleased to announce that we once again have challenge match money! This year, the Board of Directors and I are putting up the funds to match gifts AND you have until the end of the year to make your gifts.

As you know, the Museum is supported only by admission, gift shop sales, and donations. Admissions and gift shop sales continue to recover...

This years theme Used sleigh for sale Santa Bought a Car ! One of my Model T's driven by Santa Did need to put a canopy over it to protect all the new wood in the body. Go to the 1:15 second for the car

Where do I find choke rod 4592-B or am I suppose to use part 4589B

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Does anyone have a wiring diagram for a no generator or starter, early T? When searching for a wiring diagram I couldn't find one for a no starter, early car. Thanks in advance!

Rough country and lots of mud. No date, no place.

I was reading in a 1967 (!) Vintage Ford about an 1911 touring that was owned by Ray and Naomi Nelson.
Does (did?) anybody know Ray and Naomi, or any descendants, or their car? In 1967 they were in California.

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Thanks,

: ^ )

Keith

Just posting this as a reference.

Collecting tools is a never ending process. Collecting tools to a year specific compilation is a Don Quixote task also. Here’s my completed ‘1915’ pouch and the like.

Was fun collecting…may need an adjustment or two as time goes on...took over a year. Lots of help and support from a whole bunch of forum...

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I read that the patent for the first torque wrench was applied for in 1931 by J.H. Sharp. Were bolt torque values assigned to the various bolt sizes before, or after the torque wrench came about? Jim Patrick

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Hello
Please review the two pictures attached. See how the trunk has been molded (bondo’d?) into the rear of the body?

It is not a fiberglass body. The body and trunk are both steel. Is it safe to presume that this is the result of an improper “restoration”?

Until I saw the same thing on a FB post today, this car is the only one I have seen like...

Herewith is a picture of my friend's Cadillac V8 engine stand. It is a sizeable beast and has been made to rotate the large engine for ease of access. To do that a 50 plus year old reduction box is used driving through - what else - but T cam gears.

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Howdy! It's been quite some time since I've been on this forum. It's good to be back!

Anyway, the time has come to install a new interior in my '24 Touring. I've been making new wood (not finished yet) and we recently got all new seat springs.

Now how are the back springs held in place? When I removed the old ones they were just kinda sitting...

Hello,
I have noticed many brass era cars have trolley or I think they are called Bermuda Bells. I heard people used them because horses were comfortable with the bells on the trolleys, but were scared by car horns. Is there any documentation about this?? I like the sound of the bells and I was thinking about putting one on my 1914 touring if it...

Does anyone reproduce the shutoff valve handle itself? The whole potato is reproduced but I just need some valves. I have probably a dozen good assemblies that the handle is broken off.
photo borrowed from Lang's

How does this come apart? Penetrant?. Mine is stuck and has some hidden treasure rattling inside.

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Can I replace the rear drums on my hubs for my wire wheels, my hubs are good but the drums are rusty, I've searched online, in the service manual and front and rear axle book and don't see anything about this, can it be done and how to you do it?
I see there are drums for wire and wood wheels, what's the difference and what are the spare drums I...

What brand and type of paint do T-ers recommend? My 26 Coup is black with red spokes.

Still manufacturing cast iron p-heads? Anything change during evolution since first run regards to aluminum and cast?

Story my dad and uncle told me. My grandfather had a Model T. Probably about a 1924 or 1925. His family had come to Los Angeles from upstate New York about 1895. He wanted to go back and see the old home and many relatives along the way. So he took one of his sons who was my Uncle and they left Los Angeles. They took a tent and some camping...

I have a 1922 model T touring I have a question
The front passenger door rubs and sticks out at the bottom the fire wall rubs the back of the motor. Does the firewall bracket go on the inside or the outside of the firewall?
Which one goes on the left or right? I bought a new hinge thinking that was it but it did not help any.
Thanks in advance...

Just picked this up in Wyoming.

My friend Greg Grams bought this
1914 Model T modified by Walt Disney
in the 1950’s for Disneyland Parades
in California for the public to see at
The Volo Museum

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Is there anyone in here that is competent with Vectric Aspire cnc software or able to draw STL files? I've hit a wall and not too proud to ask for help. I just re-drew the box in Aspire and spent the last half of my time out there staring at the screen wondering what the bext way to get the slots and wire passages cut FIRST - while it's still in...

I ran across this photo today. It was taken in 1979 while mocking up the pieces of my 24-25 Tudor. I had forgotten the excitement of the prospect of having a closed car after a dozen years of open Ts. We were expecting and thought a Sedan would be better for the baby to ride in. However, he was graduating from High Scholl before we got the Tudor...

How tight should these nuts be? Is there recommended torque value?

1) Spring shackle nuts.

2) Nuts on bolts attaching front and rear springs to the frame.

I have no connection with this seller

1910 Torpedo all OEM parts new except rebuilt chassis parts. 5 new wire wheels and tires. Brass windshield not shown. EV control and power panel and traction motor not included. No engine. Has differential. Built as EV. Driven 4 years til battery pack expired. Amish top not correct. Fender dent. Nice...

Hello, I can't seem to find the fun projects site anywhere and I can't find a 26-27 ammeter in stock anywhere let alone a 19-25 one that I would much prefer. Is there any reliable source of NOS ammeters or repops anymore?
Regards,
Matthew

Southwest Model T Club
Day One
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I'm amazed at how many 1913-14 cars have the horns mounted incorrectly. Don't the owners bother to look at original photos, and literature?

Back in 2020, the Tennessee T's ran a tour in the Lynchburg, TN area as a memorial to a great friend and active member, Charlie Owen, from Elizabethtown (E-Town), KY. Many members from all over the USA knew Charlie because he attended many of the national tours and events.
A fellow member, Paula (aka SweetTing on YouTube), has become quite good at...

Put on a 12v alternator why I had one need a suggestion for voltage regulator that I can mount elsewhere plus ? On wiring doese a wire run
Alt Field to the volt reg to amp gauge to ignition to battery

Does anyone make a Mezger Automatic windshield data plate? Can't seem to find one on Langs web site.

Can anyone tell me the total length of the 1909-10 steering shaft that the pitman arm mounts to?

IS THE LONGER INSPECTION PLATE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE OIL PAN'S , CAN A SAY 1927 PAN WORK ON A 1925 ENGINE,I HAVE A EARLY FRAME, THINKING OF A SPEEDER, GOT A BUNCH OF ODD PARTS,

This is the sixty fourth Christmas card I’ve designed and sent. This year ‘Bell’ will be on the front!

I've discussed this 1917 Coupelet before, and now it is time to begin its restoration. I purchased this car from Larry Smith, and he provided a complete original 1917 chassis with the car. This car is documented in Bruce McCalley's book Model T Ford: The Car that changed the World on pages 244-247. The story is that the car was owned by two...

Shouldn't there be rivets in the brass steering quadrant? I am talking about the two long rivets that go through the quadrant and the steering column tube. Assuming they are needed!

When I changed my office calendar (Lang's) over to December, I was pleasantly surprised to see Keith Townsend's 1919 Touring as shown below.

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Thanks Keith for all your support for so many years! And stay warm out there.

Respectfully submitted,

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Want to change the pan on my '14 roadster. I have a 4 dip 26/27 pan to use. Will I have any issues with the exchange?

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I've been spending some time in fellow T-er Chris Bamford's shop as of late, getting my hubs prepared for new wooden wheels made up. This peculiarity of a wheel from my parts stash stumped us.

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I grabbed it from the junkyard to potentially use the rear hub for my...

Hello, I hope somebody can give me a little advice in this.
My Touring 1916 (original brass radiator) was out for repair. The repair company found out that the upper hose connector was very badly soldered and so they also fixed that hereby. After re-installation I drove some times and never saw water under my T. Now temperature in my garage...

A friend has a 1920 coupe with suicide doors and movable quarter widows. The inside window trim has a slot for the pull strap to open and close the windows but everything else is missing. Anyone have some nice pictures they can post of what the complete pull strap set up should be for the door and quarter windows?

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They made a jillion of these things. They're not quite a dime a dozen, but they're pretty close to it. BUT how many have you seen with the well defined Ford logo, part number, and maker's mark? Not many, I bet. Since I started paying attention to that, I've seen very few like this. Many have no marks at all. This one also...

Made new Mezger Automatic hinge bolts. The originals had too much clearance.
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... on a Schrader 8900 tire tube vulcanizer (with shipping). It was one of three listed on eBay. The others were listed at $130.45 with shipping and $243.95 with shipping. It pays to shop around.

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PS: The absolutely worst photo was on the highest priced item. :)

I took the rear wheels off my 22 in preparation for replacing the spokes and found that they were both loose on the axles. I took one nut off with my fingers and the wheels just slid off the shafts. The keyways don’t look bad in the hubs or shafts but the keys themselves are hourglasses a bit. I need to measure and see what I have and what needs...

Please, can someone educate me on this axle and spindles, stole the image from FB, owner believes this front end is correct for 1911? is it so?

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Mark Eyre and I are a little perplexed. Last week he bought what appears to be a 17-18 Coupelet but some details are mysterious. Have the doors been changed? Is it a transitional car? The wood is highly intact and it appears largely original. Obviously some pictures are worth a thousand words so we're interested in hearing what you think....

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These probably will stir up memories from some of the Long Beach California guys.

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We, my son, his three sons, ages 5, 12, and 14, and I rode our '21 Touring in the local parade today. Good fun and memories made.

Tipped over by striking workers, 1926.

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I was reading some old posts from years ago, and wondered, what ever became of Fast Frank Harris ? He was a common fixture on here, kinda faded away after his racing pal Humble Howard Genrich passed away.

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Dog leg - has what I think is a backwards seven, then a space, 512, a space, and what could be an A or an N cast into the side you don't see on the car. Anyone know what that all means?

My 1914 Touring has a starter and generator. Since there is no ammeter should the wire from the generator cutout be connected directly to the battery post on the starter?

Salon de l'auto, 1923, devant le Grand Palais.

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The ad I had in the classifieds was deleted do to scammers. Thanks for the comments about changes from open to closed cars.

Recently got an Email from Langs, head gaskets are slowly becoming available again. I had 4 backordered but only needed 2 so you guys needing them might grab those if still available.

Still getting some good rides in the Fordor on the weekends as the weather has been mild and no salt covered roads yet.

I have a set of almost new Firestones clinchers that have been mounted for
10 to 15 years. They came on a chassis I purchased a couple years back.
I demounted two so far and the rubber is hard.
I am familiar with heating to soften them enough to mount and demount.
Wintergreen and alcohol seems to work on smaller pieces as well.
Has anyone tried...

I just installed a new steering shaft and gears for my 1927 coupe, and now I have question.

Right after I finished the install, I reread the steering shaft replacement section in the Ford Service Manual. I noticed that I had forgotten that it says the steering case should be filled with wheel grease. I didn't do that. I greased the various...

DSC_0108.JPG I have what I believe is an original condition 1921 Touring. There is an extra wire in the right side wire loom which is not connected at the generator or the 5 terminal firewall block, as it has a single wire running from the single terminal on the generator cutout to the ammeter, through it's own hole in the firewall, parallel to...

Thanks in advance for all the help I know I am going to get. I have searched for info but not found what I think I want or need.

To Start: I am new to the T world. I dove in head first and I am confident I will be successful. :D

I would enjoy a suggestion to read about the transmission/engine either online or book.

This is a 19 engine in a 25...

Instructions in lid.

I’ve probably had it for 30 years.
It appears to dispense and light cigarettes

Time for my annual listing of these invoices, hoping I can link someone with one of these cars.

I have a friend who has approximately 26 invoices of T's sold through Auto Service Company of Copas, MN. He allowed me to make copies. Hopefully someone will have one of these cars. Most all list the name of the original purchaser of the cars. Some...

Found this Duplex “straight through” carburetor at Hershey and it needs new valve discs. The parts are the same as the NH carburetors. Seems that they don’t have a wire retaining clip or screws. So is the disc a friction fit?

I'm rescuing a '13 touring body that needs some woodwork addressed and all the upholstery and top. The owner has always characterized it as a late '13 because it has the rounded bottom doors like a '14. A supplier has said that he can't proceed with an order until he knows whether to use '13 dimensions or '14's. Unfortunately, he doesn't know what...

So a few years back I had a local guy come here looking for a T front axle. Said he is going to stretch/bend it for lowering. I asked him to do one for me too. He agreed and I sent him off with two axles and some other stuff to even out the deal. be back in a week with your part . He took the payment and the axles and vanished. Fast forward a few...

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Working on my latest purchase. The demountable wheels have a “detent” where the rim “loop” bolts. Is this a hays wheel? The hays rims seem to have a larger “foot” where at bolt. I have several rims that are a little different that seem to fit. Trying to figure out if these are hays wheels, should use Hays rims, how many different types of 30 x 3.5...

This was laying inside a used original coil box I purchased years ago (see picture).
It does not appear to fit a stock coil box switch in any way, but it does appear to fit the stock keyhole with the notches some how?

It has a patent date of 10 15 18 on it.

Any idea what it is?...Does anyone have a need for it?...I would like to get rid of it....

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I volunteered to help an 87 year old, new model T owner, get his car running. Although I have over 50 years of experience with Model T's, I have almost zero knowledge or experience with the transmission. The problem is no neutral. With a rear wheel jacked up and the engine running the wheel is always spinning. With the engine running and pushing...

I am looking for engine re-builder in So Cal.

I have a 1915 Canadian model T tourer, which I am rebuilding. I am currently working on the Head Lights, which are the fork mounted Canadian style, although I believe the installation of the spring, reflector, glass & rim etc are the same regardless of what type of headlight bucket.

I have been researching how the reflector etc are fitted to the...

As some of you know I am a life member here since 1999-ish. I've been a Model T hobbiest spanning 50 years, a professional Model T/A restorer, and now back to hobbiest again after pausing life due to a domestic abuse situation that took me far to long to recover from. I'm now on a quest to share everything I know about Model T's with the internet...