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We know Walt's car is a Model T, because cheapskate Avery advises him to stick with black. Interesting insight as to what colors and combinations appealed to folks in the day . Rather different tastes nowadays.

What is this on my 1927 Touring passenger side, front, running board bracket?

I am in the beginning of an engine tare down for rebuilding on a 26. When unbuttoning,…removing the hogshead, it became apparent that the front of the ball cap had been touching the clutch spring support as both surfaces are scored.
This engine has been rebuilt not many miles ago, and has some other issues so this is not a huge surprise.
Wondering...

I bought a 5/16 rivet set to install the running board brackets on my new frame but the rivet set head is not the correct size, it appears to be the correct size for the factory formed head on the rivet I got from Langs. What size rivet set do I need to do the the unfinished end of the rivet to match what Ford did, like in the second photo.

I don’t know that I’ve seen this discussed here before but here are some minor differences in the body castings of the later Pat’d Dec 22, 1914 Holley G carburetors and the earlier Pats Pending carburetors and how they evolved from the 1912 H1. The 1913 Model S, while similar in design, was significantly different.
A telltale feature you can spot...

Searching the forums on how to rebuild my starter brush plate I see mention of generator and starter brush plate rebuilding CD, where do I find this video or buy the CD?

Arrived in 13053 land on January 9, 2023. Another excellent edition, with stories on cars, people, and places along with a well-researched, professionally written technical piece on clincher tires. Wonderful start to the new year, thanks MTFCA!

Just popping in to let you know we have extended the Challenge Match through January 31.

Since notice of Challenge Match was a little late getting out, we wanted to give everyone an opportunity to support the Museum with a gift. And we could sure use the support. We are slowly getting back to pre-COVID numbers but are not there yet so every gift...

I'm sure all you long time T owners may have seen one of these, but since I have owned and worked on T models for only the last 5 years, this one is new to me.
A friend of mine, who owns some model T's, was given this tool as a Christmas present. Since I have not found any reference to this tool on the forum, I thought I'd show it to you, along...

NHTSA.PDF my first time importing tires, has anyone had to fill out a declaration form to get them through customs? Help me out.
thanks

Hope everyone's having a fine Monday. I am looking for some photos of the space under the seat cushion on 1919-22 suicide door coupes. How much space should be there? Is it a storage compartment or is it somewhat useless?

And if you got a suicide door coupe you are proud of, share photos of the whole machine if you'd like. Now all of them are at...

As you all know, I'm working on another video series on a 17 T engine. It was given to me by my grandfather who is now gone so it's got a little value to it. He told me that it was a really good one , I think he may have been confused because apparently he never opened it to see the inside.

I sat on it for a decade or more and recently decided...

Would anyone be able to list the major changes that took place in the Black Cars. I am familiar with the Brass era but beyond that I only know that the improved car (26 and 27) used more steel and look a bit more like a Model A.

I am in the process of making a couple new clutch drums. The only dimension I am missing is from the face the washers right against to the set screw hole. Obviously that is critical. I know there were two different numbers for early cars and late cars. At least that is what I understand. Does anybody have that dimension or a drawing?

Thank you...

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Can anyone point me at old photos of the original upholstery in the Improved Ford 1926/27 Runabout? I can find pictures of the nice job people have done on restorations, but I would like to see some clues about the original upholstery design.
Thanks,

I was given this old tool by a co-worker. Dad and I looked it over, and were thinking maybe it was to decarbon a valve by hand. By its construction, i would say 20's-30's It has a hand crank, an adjustable cutter, and some weird spring thing that i have no idea about. No company markings. Any of you guys something like this ?

I will soon be putting the body back on the frame of my 1927 Coupe. I will be putting casters under the wheels to help in positioning the frame under the body.

Where is the best locations to place the jacks to get wheels onto the casters?

I think it is going to be difficult to get the frame positioned to insert the body bolts. Any suggestions?

Suppose the powers at be might be able to disable the pop-up regarding museum hours please, now that the time of notice is long past ?

Thanks !

Over on the model t for sale on Facebook is a 1927 roadster with a rumble seat. I have heard of them but never seen on. I’m sorry don’t know how to do the link thing. Who made them? How common?

Does anyone know the story on spark plugs with Ford scripts that aren’t Ford? I assume it was fairly frequent for companies to use it without permission and get sued. Many others used the Ford name without the script, and still others used a similar script that didn’t actually say Ford to try to simultaneously trick the human mind and skirt a...

Here's a question for Torpedo owners. My 1911 Torpedo has a hole under the driver's seat with a wooden box hanging down from it. It is about 6 inches square and 8 deep. The former owner had a small power sports battery in it to provide power to the coils. Is this battery box original or was it added later?
Thanks.

Ok guys looking for some opinions, I am trying to decide if I want to install an auxiliary transmission in my latest project.
I am working on a 17 couplet, I want it to be the car I take on tours, and Ruckstells don't make much sense to me.
Rick

When I found my 26 Model T and checked the serial numbers, I found that the engine was a 1922 build.
I was able to acquire a block with serial number for 1926 but it will be for a backup engine.
During the teardown I noticed that the pedal trim plate had been cut up and a new slot was
cut for the C pedal and the original left slot was empty. AT...

Looking for a catalog or some form of documentation on wrenches to use for
Identification .
Also any information on value would be appreciated .

I am on track to put new spokes in my Kelsey wheels. The holes in my rims are 0.5. Snyder’s list the diameter of the new spoke ends as 0.55. Measuring a sample shows they vary a bit between 0.53 and 0.55 (ish). They have a little chamfer on the tips and the punching of the holes in the rims gives them a slightly funnel shape. I know that you want...

Would anybody have contact info on the man who sets up in the red field at Hershey. I believe he is located in Muskegon Michigan thank you

Probably dust-bowl era, or perhaps last year ?
Seems everyone's coming here lately. :shock:

I am planning to change out the front timing cover on my 1912 to allow use of a standard' timer versus the setup with an integrated oil spout. That takes me to needing an alignment tool. I have the tool for the later cars but the 1912 cover is different and requires a larger alignment tool that works by aligning the outer edges where the timer...

I have found a way that I can quickly put wireless directionals on my 22 touring.
Recently I posted how I've added brake and running lights to my car for safety, as I use locally often for shopping, drives to the beach and for friends who come by.

I am trying to keep the car the way I got it. I've cleaned it up then worked on the upholstery. Tom...

Redwood City California is planning on building an auto gallery and may have the Model T as it's first year display.

The San Mateo county history museum is requesting if anyone in the club would know how to access the name of the first Model T customer delivered in San Mateo County probably around 1909 from the San Francisco dealer?

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It turns out my 22 is a magnet for accessories. A moto meter, ruxtel, hasslers, stop and tail lights, a side spare tire holder, a running board tool box and luggage rack, and an ooogah hand horn are already on the car and I am keeping my eye out for a Speedo setup and an aermore whistle (so my son can make noise). I was looking at the Akuret oil...

Model T Monday - another video is out - see what I found in the 17 engine...

I checked Langs, and Chaffins catalogs. Only Snyder furnishes the drive rivets to attach the data plates. How come? I'm trying to help a friend with a Ruckstell. He must buy a package of 100 from McMaster Carr, when our suppliers should be doing the job!

I’m a new member of MTFCA and restoring a 24 Touring. I noticed the headlights are not semetrical in relation to the radiator. Can anyone tell me what can cause this and what I have to do to correct this?

welcome any /all information

I got my Kelsey felloes and rims back from the blaster today. I primed the felloes and cold galvanized the rims. The hubs will be blasted and primed on Saturday (a new one is on the way to replace a damaged one). The Kelsey length spokes have been treated with wood hardener and are waiting for varnish. The wheel press has been constructed and is...

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I have made a few different types of shutoff handles for my gas tank and this weekend and settled on the ones using a 1/4 drive universal joint as a beginning point. They work well and don't cost much and are easy to fabricate. It looks like they will work well within 30 degrees of straight on. I mounted one on my roadster by attaching a short...

One of the perks for buying an older restoration rather than doing your own ground-up restoration is the opportunity to tinker while maintaining it. For one or another reason, I couldn't get sound out of the bulb horn. Reasoning (incorrectly ?) that an air blast from the bulb would be lessened by having to compress a column of air in the...

I'm helping a friend with some 1911 touring front end repairs. We found the left-hand spindle arm loose in the spindle bore — still nutted and cotter-pinned fortunately, but rattling around and the nut not even finger tight once the pin was pulled. Yikes!

Upon disassembly, we were puzzled: the arm is 0.740-0.742 OD but not visibly worn, and the...

Hello, would anyone with a `22 or `23 coupe be able to take a few pictures of the door glass and bracket alignment?

I believe my glass is either not wide enough or the bracket was installed incorrectly in my`22 coupe.

Thank you

Henrietta s new friends.

Henrietta has some new lodgers. I was about to evict them but thought zi should consult beforehand.
Evict and demolish or allow them to remain?

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Hello,
I wanted to see how is the best way to check for correct timer rod length. My new 26 had an old outside oiler that the rod is bent to pass under and I wonder if it hasn't caused the rod to get out of adjustment. The car starts pretty easily, but curiously, it will only start with the spark a little advanced.

Thanks and God Bless,

Joshua...

I thought I had the contact info, but I get no response.

Does anyone know of any Model T used parts dealers or sites that might have bumpers and brackets for sale.
Originals seem like a rare commodity and when I do an online search I get everything other than locations that might have used parts.
Also, when I found my Coupe it had these bumpers on the rear which I think are Model A. Can anyone confirm...

I have sent Russ both an email and PM with no response. I know he has had some health issues, but did I miss something? Checking, I don't see any activity from him in a while here on the forums.
Mark

Here's a question for Torpedo owners. My 1911 Torpedo has a hole under the driver's seat with a wooden box hanging down from it. It is about 6 inches square and 8 deep. The former owner had a small power sports battery in it to provide power to the coils. Is this battery box original or was it added later?
Thanks.

What was date the last car was assembled at the Piquette Plant?

Are the brass Rands windshield hinges made in left and right hand
sides or are they identical for each side? They are the same on my
windshield and appear to be the same in the vendor's catalogues.
Harry

Maybe this has been on before

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Too bad it is obscured.

Someone told me upgrading a 1917 Engine with a starter was an easy task.

A newer flywheel with a starter ring gear and a 119 or later transmission cover was all that was required.

The starter worked fine and turned the engine over very nicely.

Everything was going good until I attempted to add the Bendix cover and connect the clutch pedal to...

Honestly been trying to find my own answer and maybe overlooked the obvious.

Will the 26/27 Wood Spoke Wheels fit on the 25T directly?

Tom
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I am in the process of buying a 1914 Speedster that was built by a Ted Oney in Oklahoma. That car has the original monocle windscreen. I want to fit a full width windshield, preferably one piece. The firewall appears to have been customized: not sure. Anyway, I have attached two pics and wonder if anybody has an ideas for installing a windshield....

I need an upper windshield for my 1919 Touring (if anyone has one available) and have found the attached pattern. The original glass is broken and wasn't cut right to begin with so I plan to have one cut to the pattern specs. The glass cutter assumed the radius of the rounded corners is 2-9/16 while to me, it looks like the drawing says it's a 3...

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Our family goes decked out for OCF every year and every year we say we need to bring the T up to participate. It was either we didn’t have a modern car that could tow or the kids were too small to handle both them and a car at the show. Today we traded in one of the minivans for the Durango with tow package at 7,500 pounds. See you at OCF this...

Hey Folks,

Happy Holidays, please submit any members you feel are worthy for the awards. The deadline is fastly approaching.
Regards,
Eric

I keep it as a PDF and print it on 8½ x 11 card stock to be cut in two 5½ x 8½ cards.

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anyone have any pics from the holiday motor excursion?

Tim

It is generally stated that there were just over 15 Million Model Ts produced. I have a theory that the total number was considerably more. Starting in the beginning of 1913 Canadian production started with serial number C1 and ended above number C787,000. My question is, “Are there any other serial numbers used for production outside of the USA...

I made a leather fan belt about six years ago. I used good latigo leather, but I believe it has Finally stretched out of adjustment. I stitched the scarf joint after gluing it with Barge Cement. I soon found out that antifreeze dissolves it ! I note that the parts book illustrations of leather belts show them stitched the entire circumference....

I have been trying to find a thread from a few years ago that I wrote about my grandpa's 1932 International truck. I have tried every trick to come up with it to no avail.
I want to show it to my son's fiancé and so far, have failed.
Any ideas?

Thanks

Herb

Cleaning up my shop and found this. The manifold fits a T block and I think is from a vaporizer. A straight bore venturi.

I have some notions on changing out the worn bushings, but I'll bet our members can offer some valuable tips ! 1916-20 (?) cast iron hub. Thanks, fellows !

First time I ever saw something like this....what might it be? Otherwise, the tail-lamp exterior looks to be a real E&J #9

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Henrietta's spare was loose on the tray when I found her. Image this running board carrier, based on a blacksmith made unit on my 1912 chocolate van. Both utilise existing bolts so that no holes were drilled to fit them.

I set the cradle for this one to the front, as the second strap is at 9 o'clock on the front of the tray. There is a leather...

I only have 1 for 2023. I promise to pay equal amounts of attention to my significant other and my 1914 roadster.

As both are my favorites and share my attention, I think its only fair that I give each one equal attention. Now not being a total fool, I'm not sharing this resolution with my S/A.

My '14 roadster is getting some love, a fresh...

Good morning All,
Best wishes for 2023.

A new year start and new challenges arrive.
The first one: Putting a FRONTENAC head on a 1925 engine and make it run as it should be.

A while ago I found a Frontenac head and Winfiekd carburetor, now I am willing to set them on a 1925 engine.
There for I have a few questions:
- Are the head gaskets still...

Looking forward to this years Marietta Ohio swap meet! This one day meet is Saturday March 4 ( always the first Saturday in March), starts at 7:00 am and ends at 3:00 pm. 100 dealers signed up. Heated building with donuts and lunched served. What else you gonna be doing! Where else can you have so much fun on a late winter day!
Can’t wait to see...

There was a thread years ago on how to make your hand crank stand up. Go ahead make the jokes but I can not find in. Anyone know where it is? Thanks Dan

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What was the purpose of the split rim when it was introduced? Was it to accommodate the balloon tire?

In my oldest for a nice lunch to take out the old year on new years eve. And then out in the modern to bring in the new year the next day for a picnic. 323408793_1375946353160723_556267961778353199_n.jpg

What are these? They were in with some Model T tools and parts.

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They kind of resemble clutch finger screws. Opposite of the slot end is a spring loaded ball. Model A perhaps?

: ^ )

Keith

Hello Fellow Model T-ers,

I was at the annual Holiday Motor Excursion in Pasadena CA. today and stoped by a local gas station that had, in addition to conventional gasolines, a Flex Fuel pump.
This alternative was 1/2 the price of their regular gasoline. I have always been told that Model T Fords can run on virtually any kind of fuel. So, what...

I found this advertisement from 1929, about two years from the introduction of the Model A. Was there an out cry from loyal T owners and a worry that the FMCO would abandon Henry's favourite car?

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Hey guise,
I have noticed several of you rewind your own field coils on the ford magneto and don’t remember anyone explaining how
The fresh coils are attached to the coil ring. Do you use some kind of adhesive or are they a friction fit? It would make sense
To glue it some way
Thanks Jim.

Explaning

Since the Lang's part numbers 2907(inline somewhat for early sediment bowls) and 6055(elbow into carb type) are no longer being made that I know of, plus the 6055RE(elbow into carb type) has not had the best reviews, and I am tired of buying period looking old cutoffs on Ebay that unluckily for me are worn out once I get them to clean up, lap, and...

I thought this would be of interest and that it should be preserved here, since the original copy has become very fragile.

I see that even when blown-up it's a little hard to read. If someone can figure out how to post a larger copy, I can send the files to you.

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I am rebuilding the rear axle on my 1927 Touring and I am probably being to picky on some of these dimension.
What is an acceptable clearance on the axle shaft gear shoulder in the differential housing, I've read the gear shoulder should be 1.807 and .010 clearance is acceptable, so the differential housing could be up to 1.817
How much wear can...

Has anyone fitted these two there Blockley's inner tubes? are they suitable with the 30 by 3 and half inner tubes?

Well, the Rad drain only stops dripping when enough rust has built up.
Having drain the T for the winter, I pulled the drain.
This is what came off. Now I need to know what the thread size that I should use for the new one.

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Does not look good. Just hope I can get a new one with good threads.

Santa = my wife.
The one needs a little cleaning up, but at least they match.

When many Ford items were changed from brass to steel about 1915-1916, did the Murphey fasteners continue to be made in brass?

Bruce's Big Black Book does not have much specific information on 1916 Fords.

Exactly when things changed from brass to steel does not appear very definite.

Would a Judging Guidelines book answer all these questions?

After reading a number of posts on engine building it appears the parts of choice are the 25 block due to better casting around water outlet), and 26 crank due to strength.

Are there any other bits of wisdom along those lines?

Tom
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Could someone who has mounted 30x3.5 Blockley tires please measure the diameter to the outside of the tire? Thanks!