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Ron -- I bought one of those horns from John Regan a few years ago when he still had Fun Projects. It was John who made the re-pop horns. It was a high-quality product (as was everything John made), and I was quite satisfied with it.

I just happened to be reading a copy of February 1913 Ford times magazine and found this on the back cover. It appeared to be somewhat perplexing in today’s world, so I posted it for other’s enjoyment, and comments!

There are a few different styles out there:

And they still keep showing up!

Brad

Ok, so running to the hardware,which I was just about to do,to get some rod may not be the best idea,and logically so because it would be hard to keep that bend in it.
So I guess I will order a new 1 and see if it works.
I did not drop the steering column.I wanted to when I was going to use a wooden dash and etc but when I decided to use the 26...

How about this? These drawings can be found in the gallery. Be sure and click onto the box name. There are 14 drawings having to do with the fuel system. Jim Patrick

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Darren J Wallace, I would welcome some pictures of your 1913 headlights. I understand my lamps are different, but I am in the process of learning how these lamps were assembled and would find the information useful.

From the November 1908 Ford parts book.

That slide trombone in the driver's ear reminded me of a Christmas Parade I once attended. At the very last minute , just as we got under way, i was asked if I could carry a musician in the back seat. No worries. I was startled out of my wits when this dreadlul squeak emanated from the rear. My first thought was an embarrassing breakdown, but then...

Thanx Dallas. The pics on the tire websites are too generic. I have a beautiful set of what I believe are mid 20’s Chevy wheels and rims that I may explore replacing the hubs with TT hubs. On the wheels are 33x5 Atlas Heavy Duty tires that hold air. I love the mass and look. Hub plate diameter is the same as TT. Rivet count is different. If I go...

John, point taken.

The brake mounted solenoid disconnect was only in the event I forgot to disconnect at the main. I like the idea of mounting on the Ruckstell.

Tom
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I have to admit I’m going by memory here😊 if I’m wrong maybe it’s in another of my grandfathers books called Get A Horse!
I will look when I have a minute…..

Rocking is that one valve is just about to close and the other is just about to open, so in other words if you turn the crank a little each way the valves are rocking on the seats in the block.

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My 1917 came with a Holley G which I had rebuilt by Russ Potter. With it my car started easily and ran smoothly. Being a bit of an experimenter, I bought a swayback NH to see the difference. Other than being a little harder to start when cold, the NH appears to have more ooomph than the G.

When I had my transmission rebuilt and engine refreshed...

There are times when a lighter con rod bolt helps when balancing the big end. Less material to remove from the cap and rod.

Allan from down under.

I can see the light! Thanks!

Just got home from a 2-week trip to New Zealand this past Wednesday. Beautiful country!

Built this jig years back. The cores must have rough mating surfaces imo if they don’t look as if it’s a fresh break on each half the shells are no good. Here’s the jig I use, then chuck the bearing and cut it to fit the camshaft in a lathe. I’m at 903-824-1949 if you have questions.

I believe heater vent is right. Similar to this:

It is 56 degrees in mid Illinois today so I took the 11 out for another drive after adjusting the rear brakes. Once again I primed it with three quarter turns, turned the key on and got a free start. That makes five in a row. Art

If it was working before you did the work and removed the hogs head, then look at only the things you physically actually worked on for the problem. Only exception would be the battery. Depending on how long it was not used, it could be dead. If the battery is good, then anything you actually worked on could be causing the problem. Not likely the...

......I should also have said,....sorry for cluttering up your spark plug thread Steve,... :roll: :D

Very interesting video, well worth watching to the very end. Don has my respect.

Impressive, Jim !

50 years in the sign trade, the God almighty computer turned me from a painter into a paper-hanger 20 years ago. A word about soapy water , not much is necessary to break surface tension so water will flow rather than bead up. 3:1 water to denatured alcohol and a capful of dish soap in a gallon works well for decals less than...

Anyone ever use two of these for 27 parking brakes to increase the throw on the handbrake lever?
In my situation, the brake lining is too close to the drum surface resulting in the brakes being activated too soon when I pull on the lever. If I loosen the rods to eliminate early engagement, the car won't slip into high with the handbrake brake...

Wayne, reading your story of the gunked up and hardened up oil and dirt encrusted engine is good to hear! Those are the kind of old motors that I love to clean up and see what’s going on under it all!
Sounds like you got a good one. Being raised on a farm we worked on old parts and motors with no steam cleaner or pressure washer other than a...

As mentioned above use caution in cycle mode as it will take you down bike paths. When I was testing this out it did it to me.....because it took place in familiar areas it was not a problem but I can see it being a problem.

I agree with your assessment, the large terminal in the middle of the bottom of the box is the high tension lead. Ludwig Gocek (lgocek9@gmail.com) sells the insulator shroud for that connection, along with a bunch of other hardware for old coil boxes. I suspect that two of the low tension connections on the box bottom are for battery banks A and B...

Third photo from the bottom is a 1915 or 1916 with a 1917 license plate and a decent look at the large flag decal that many people put on their car windshields in support of the country entering the War, or maybe it was our country first and stay out of the war? Both sentiments were running strong that year!
A couple other observations of that...

:oops: :oops: :oops: Yea that was a bad typo, wish I could say I did it intentionally just to get a laugh, but sadly I cannot! :cry:

I don't plan on using, at least not the wrench (spelling correct this time) part, but the plug end may come in handy.

At some point, perhaps by 2040, motorsports will be banned, and vehicular competiton will be limited to gravity powered platforms. At that point, activists will begin the long march toward a total global ban on all competitive activity of any kind whatsoever, war being the only exception. Governments do love their wars.

Shriner Clowns had most of them.

And in the OP the driver appears to be wearing a Shriner Fez.

I own two T's. A 1915 touring and a 1926 roadster. Both have Ruckstells. The only thing I will add is that a Ruckstell is not a overdrive or a high speed option. It is an intermediate gearing option. It's great for cruising SLOW when in Ruckstell high. bobt

The car looks like a Dodge, and the 3/4 eliptic springs and large brakes also indicate Dodge. The wire wheels may be non-factory accessories.

Wire wheels were a factory option on Dodge automobiles beginning in the late 1910s, and continuing into the mid 1920s at least. They were usually purchased on coupes and sedans, and I have seen them on...

I suspect the E is for Eagle brand oil can.

Art Mirtes

Thanks for the responses, I believe things are now responding to treatment ! :lol:

All else fails, read the instructions.
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I run a small fan hub with a large crankshaft pulley on a c.1920 engine in our 1914. Have done so for about 25 years. Not my choice...the engine was built for a speedster and ended up in the 1914. I could not find the correct length belt for that combination. I ended up using an idler arm/bearing off of a distributor that John Stoltz sold, mounted...

The green drab bezel makes sense on military vehicles/machinery. They may not do many miles but may operate for some time. Every time the engine is started, the hours are recordred. In this way a service schedule can be adopted to suit the running conditions. Like a lot of government/military items, they stockpile spares that often are outdated...

John, I think that’s the divorce model, one seat for the wife, the other for the girl friend.

No upholstery except where your butt & back go !

Those 3 holes don't belong there. Somebody added them for an accessory of some sort.

I just oil every flip top and screw down about a turn on each grease fitting. Remember the ones under the front floorboard. Sometimes you can reach them from under the car without removing the floorboard. There is also one through the frame over each end of the parking brake cross shaft. I do this before each time I drive the T unless I drive it...

Not trying to hijack your thread Steve but if you, or anybody, needs for future reference here are all the bowls except one from the later (1912 an up) carburetors.

Top photo left to right top: Holley H1, Holley S, Pat‘s Pending G
bottom: Holley G Pat‘d Dec 22, 1914, early NH, late NH

Bottom photo top: Kingston Y (4 ball), Kingston L, Kingston...

Yep our club Prez sent it out and it is quite the video!

Dragging starters abuse starter switches, batteries, generators, cables, and peoples' patience.

If you've measured correctly, 20V a little above idle is excellent

This is where a St. Louis Mag Tester really shines

I wouldn't go to any effort at all to recharge based on that result

Thank you Scott........bring on summer!!

John

I did upholstery on collector cars for 35 years. Installing a top and having it look good is a difficult job. Reinstalling one with all of the holes in it from the previous installation would be something I would not attempt. It would be very difficult, if not impossible to keep the holes in the top from showing after the second installation. You...

The rust makes it difficult to identify. Does that firewall have four holes for the patent plate or two? Two is a 1925. Late 1925 firewalls have no bell crank for the carburetor, but the two holes for it are still there.

The problem with # 1 and # 2 is already in the Book :
The Model T FordOwner by Murray Fahnesstock 1921 .
pag.303-305 .

Toon

I am the one making the LED kits . new brighter bulbs have been found Langs should have them in stock now. If you would like the new bulbs please get a hold of me . Old bulbs were 2w equal to 20watt halogen bulb. The new bulbs are 5w equal to 50w halogen . Plus the LED bulbs draw a lot less amps, also the LED bulbs are replaceable if they burn...

My car seems to enjoy running, and I certainly enjoy driving it.

No one makes a new 42 tooth ring gear. Good luck finding a good used one.

Back in the mid 1970’s I knew the person doing the bonded Model T transmission bands in Central California area. The linings were the same material as was used in old cable operated dragline brake drums that stop and hold the cables in use. Many such draglines from the 1950’s were still in use by irrigation districts back then. On the T bands they...

In 2011, I installed a Stewart 490 in my 1926 Coupe and posted the step by step procedure with 14 pictures. The most important thing was to get the hole in the right place to avoid the fuel tank in the cowl behind the dash. Jim Patrick

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Larry, like it was said it in the old days, “ Don’t have a cow, man.”
I did a lot of work in the Visalia mall, the next city to the north, in the 80’s so I should have remembered the proper spelling of the city, sorry.

Model T Ron....that is a nice looking car. I wish there were white tires available when I restored mine.

I’ve read that the T ignition switch rebuild kits were scarce.
If a switch's problem is a warped backing plate, which it often is, that's usually an easy fix. I didn't know that until I opened up a switch and saw what was the matter with it.

Ford could not tolerate drunk or hung-over workers, or butt-hurt slackers, or the persistently inept, except by pricing his product a good bit higher. An impaired worker would have been a hazard to himself and others, as well as to the company. The Ford plants were among the cleanest and safest industrial workplaces in early 20th Century, if not...

Link for 'Front Assemblies':

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I have a Lincoln 3-speed for my TT, but have not installed
it yet. These period aix. transmissions have straight cut gears,
and are known to whine. I liked the idea of putting that noise
out back by the rear end, rather than up front by the cab. My
truck is loud enough already !

I saw the ones RV made at Hershey, but there were none in his shop after he passed, and I didn't find any parts or drawings. Maybe Don Lang found something related to the project when he was in RV's shop.

If you find the correct color, you can successfully touch-up all chips by filling in the chipped and damaged areas with a very small brush dabbing on several coats and then, once completely dry, gently sand the touched-up areas flat with 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper being careful not to sand anything but the recently applied touch-up paint. Once the...

Babbitt is the way to go. If you use inserts, it would be best to also have a pressurized oil system, but to do that, you would need to drill the crankshaft. The bearings on a T crank are also small and the drilling would weaken the already weak crankshaft. With a new Skat crank, the babbitt bearings would wear for a long time and only need small...

After you get the wiring correct, Your first running may show a dead generator requiring re-polarization.

Pat,

Please contact me by email.

Dick(dot)Fischer(at)mac.com Note: for exact address, make all capital letters lower case.

Thanks everyone for the posts and suggestions. Will see how it goes now. :)

I found that same page as well, Frank. But I can't seem to drill down into their website to look at the regulator itself. Probably just not computer savvy enough.

Have you tried to look into the catalog to see details for ordering from Ford Garage ?

I found the HOME page
Scrolling down - lots of documentation and original parts catalogs. Think...

If you run the numbers… adding the A crank with its extra 1/4” of stroke to a 4:1 compression engine will only bump the compression ratio to 4.25:1. Unfortunately, at these low compression ratios it requires a lot of volume displacement to increase compression ratio. No doubt the high dome piston displaces a noticeable amount of volume, but likely...

with original hubs and axles the probability is a near certainty

I dug around in my parts and found a nice clevis. Fitted it a bit then set it to the same length as the one I took out. Seems to work ok. I will do some adjusting when the wheels are back on.

Thank you very much all for the responses, they are much appreciated, I will double check all the measurements and probably make up a brass spacer and see what effect that has.

Many Thanks
George

I have collected some photos from the internet. I hope they help.
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Rich

Wonderful things including the video.
Out friend Bob Woodburn has a number of things still on eBay at premium prices. His reasoning has been discussed here many times.
For me, the pictures are fabulous and a treat to see.
Thanks for the opportunity to see them.
Rich

So it wasn’t custom, benson ford had one mention of a waterskiet dealership in their archives. The only mention of the dealership is from the 1924 ledger and reads “canceled 8/18/1925. Dealer's request. Unable to finance. Unfair practices.” This was in reference to Mr. Behlows watersmeet dealership as well so everything seems to line up.

Keith McG,
I don't recognize the big car either, but I do like it! And the T is clearly a 1914 style, which was actually manufactured for well over a year and a half! Due to weakness in the 1913 style, they began production by July of 1913. And then due to production delays of the new 1915 style front cowl, continued clear into April of 1915!
Most...

Yeah, I thought about that just a few minutes ago. Works with laminate, but surely not with tempered glass! You could go the route of cutting new glass and if you think 1/8 less in width might do it, then go with that. If that turns out to be too much you can shim behind the felt channels to get it just right. As I said earlier, I spent a lot of...

Depends upon the model transmission.
If it is the six speed version, actually a three speed progressive shift, be very careful. Do not try to force it because you can't!
I had one many years ago, that wasn't very rusty inside, and never did get it loose. There is a big sliding gear with a couple of dog clutches that takes very little rust inside...

My advise is don't try it. Russ

Yes, It have a virgin starter ring on the fly wheel.
I hope, at the underside, the corrosion didn't distroy it.

Andre
Belgium

The term station wagon pre-dates the automobile so it actually did not start with the Model T. Same goes for depot hackney AKA depot hack and I also presume for estate wagon.

Automobile manufactures such as Woods and Pope-Waverley produced models to which they referred as station wagons, long before the appearance of any Model T equipped with a...