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My problem is with a 1920 engine.

The two different sized crankshaft pulleys are listed for 1920, one at the end and one at the beginning of years they fit.

I used the larger size pulley!

I'm wondering if a Gates 820 flat black belt was intended for use on the 1920 new size crankshaft pulley.

Thanks for all the input. I did order the thicker shims. I guess the key thing here is to monitor how the wheel is doing.

The 1926 Fordor is nothing like the improved, all steel styles of 1926-‘27. I don’t know why but the 1926-‘27 Fordor is more like the 1925 Fordor with a wooden frame and the gas tank under the seat. Perhaps they ran out of time before redisigning an all steel 1926 Fordor and decided to keep the 1925 Fordor body design and mate it with the new 1926...

I have some of the non-original pressed in bolts and intend to tack/finish weld them in and then they should be fine.

Way have done is to fit the pad to the top of the spring stack, making sure the hole in the pad centers on the bolt head. And sometimes trim the edges of the pad so nothing overhangs the spring stack, which makes insertion of the spring difficult.

The pad thick sides are on the top leaf, due to the curve of that leaf. A bit of cement holds the...

The two gallons of coolant lost in trailering, twice, going and returning home is a lot of coolant loss to not have any coolant loss while driving the Model A. Does it leak any coolant on the garage floor when left sitting parked for a week or so ? If no leaking parked check the lower hose for any leaking, even a few drops, by moving the lower...

Check out this thread from 2010: www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/128544.html. Jim Patrick

I just found what I believe is the original head off that car. I have it! :)

Steve, I don't have any messages from you. Your odometer look fine. If you use this odometer, the part that is broken off will affect the way the dial face sits on the speedometer frame. The little tit on the odometer goes into the hole on the dial face to keep the dial face in place. The rest of the odometer looks fine. Russ Furstnow

Or hose clamps…lol

The hardest part to make is probably the piece that fits on the brake pedal. Luckily I found one. Hope to install it next year. Too busy this year.

Weld a tab on like for the rocky mtn brakes, only above the shaft line not below.

I love it and the price considering I have a Gemsa head!

Great pictures Tom. I would have had a crush on the girl straddling the hood if I’d lived back then. She’s the cats pajamas, the bee’s knees and the cat’s meow all rolled into one.

Fifth picture looks like a 6’-6” longshoreman that could give us tall men lessons on how to get into and drive a Model T. Watching him fold himself up, squeeze into...

If the points have sufficient material, and the cushion spring is in good order, then yes. If the cushion spring has been incorrectly bent or the rivet damaged, it's very difficult to get correct adjustment. Another thing to watch out for is the actual point riveting - sometimes the point is loose and doesn't always make contact, even though it...

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Paint the entire leaf on both sides with a good, hard, gloss black paint (I would use a durable 2 part epoxy) and let dry thoroughly. Painting the entire leafs won’t hurt anything and will provide more protection against rust between the leafs. When applying slip paint try not to get any on the edges of the leafs. If you do accidentally get slip...

Not all T's came with same number of rear leafs.

Flip it over and check the rivets for cracks. 9 out of 10 are cracked there.
Have been told someone is looking to make some new ones but will not be cheap.

Make sure the rivets are tight. I like welding a 3/4-1 bead in 3 places, (between the 3 web holes).

Then do square up cuts to the plate in a lathe to the mating surfaces.
The last step...

Thanks for sharing!

David,

Chances are that manifold is in fact Cast Iron. Old school foundry methods of the era allowed cast iron to be pulled from the sand within 24 hours, often next shift, shaken down and sent off for machining immediately. (perhaps not too bright on this last one, but hey...it worked, most of the time and a good foundry man of the old era knew...

Pretty sure the J.B. Weld reference was in jest, Norm !

Yep, along with the reference to MMO both products fix everything. But my tool box contains WD40 and duct tape if it moves and it shouldn't Duct tape it; if it doesn't move and it should flood it with WD40 :twisted: :D :D

Be sure it’s long enough to reach the oil 😜😂

Thanks for the pics, Tom. I always enjoy them. I find the 1911 Torpedo interesting, it does not have a Torpedo horn on it...

There should not be any paint on the leafs before coating with slip plate. The paint defeats the reason for using slip paint. Dry they shouldn't need any burnishing; spring action will do that quick enough.
When you are all done, don't forget to stake the end of the bolt to keep from turning off, same as when you do wood wheels.

Here’s one.....

Another one Joe posted a lot was this 1915 Touring car. He didn't note who or where it was so he may have picked it up somewhere.
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It does show the typical white tires and the brass trim.
Rich

babbit washers failed on either side of the ring gear causing the ring gear and pinion to go half mesh which stripped things.

I agree that the tape might not be necessary if you have someone hold the window, or install the window crank mechanism to hold the window up as you slide in the felt. The felt channel is flexible and will slide down each side of the glass and latched to the guide as described earlier. Latch the bottom clips with the window all the way up and the...

I think they'd have done well to add some copy to the effect that a family's present Model T would make a dependable and low cost second car should they choose to purchase a new Model A. A farm family might consider a new Model A, AA, or pickup truck and retain their aging touring car or roadster could serve as a cheap and reliable pickup/second...

it's brass magnet won't stick,no marking on back

Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for posting those Frank. I don't get to many of the AACA events so it is nice to see these. I joined a dozen years ago and found it nice to get the magazine and have met some nice people as in all the clubs.
The Midget racer, the Velie Six and part of a Model F Buick particularly were fun.
Thanks so much.
Rich

I’ll bet when Ford was designing a switch for his cars he wanted something practical and easy to produce. The Ford switch plate was a stamping or pressing and not hard to make.

Looks like the Bosch switch was more ornate and Victorian looking. I wondered if it was made from some type of light casting material but I’m not sure if it was a...

Here it is in 2013.

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Try a pencil eraser, should polish not scratch.
Craig.

They didn't make the ammeters either - Hoyt, Tiffany (not that one), Nagel, Liberty, Sterling and likely many others
Then there are the locks & keys......
The reason why the Model T was successful is because it was assembled in such volumes by parts made many different manufacturers besides Ford. The same is true for everything made today, not...

Allan that was a lucky tool find! It makes me wonder that in the later years when Model T parts and tools were considered scrap junk and so on. I can only imagine tools and fixtures such as a pan straightening jig and what you found at the swap meet went to scrap or so in iron piles at auctions only to be hauled off and sold for scrap.
That was a...

The Ford service manual is a great resource for information for most any T repair. It has been for me.

I’m sure it would. I can run 50 in my dump truck as is. This thing is capable of more than twice the rpm it can reach. But that big vertical windshield would be holding it back and the part about swapping reliably for performance suggests a more low key approach.

One more thing that wasn’t mentioned is the condition of the wood body structure. If the car is a original car that was ‘’freshened ‘’up the body wood could be OK enough but not totally in great shape and just left alone. If you go back to the owner to check on the car be sure to find that out but he may no know either. Good luck.

For the rubber tip, I just bought some rubber vacuum caps the right size to fit the grease needle, then poked a hole in the tip so that the grease could come out. :)

The cars and signs in the background make a nice picture. I see a 1926-7 T, 2 I don't recognize and then 2 T Coupes and a Fordor T.
It does portray the difficulties of the day.
Thanks for the look.
Rich

I heard of Otis from the guy I bought my '13 touring from in Irving, Texas. His name was Hoot Gibson. Otis made fonts for Jno. Brown lamps, and I bought two or three, but I never got to meet him. While I was stationed in Bremerton, Washington, I was able to finally meet Otis, and we became good friends. When he drove his motor home to Southern...

This reminds me of the “wiggle test” you can perform with a scan tool. While monitoring the scanners data stream go component to component wiggling wires, sensors, plugs trying to pinpoint where the issue is. In the Model T era one would have to be the computer and have a good set of diagnostic skills. In the current era one still has to possess...

Lots of two wheel horse carts here were converted to car wheels and tyres to replace larger wooden spoked buggy wheels with solid steel/rubber tyres. Often a car front axle was used too, thus lowering the cart, and considerably modifying the view of the reinsman! Call it a jinker, sulky, whatever, I like them, especially when I find a pair of...

In 50 years with Ts I don't remember encountering or hearing of those scenarios. That's the great thing about the forum. I will try those suggestions. This is a new engine and I haven't put a heat pipe on it. I now recall the '09 starting hard one warm day now and that may be the cause.
Thanks for the ideas.
Rich

Ammeters are connected to the electrical system in series plus side to minus. You can initially assume that the discharge side on the face of the meter is where the positive incoming voltage is to be connected to. Once you put a load on the system it should show a negative reading. With the car running an the ammeter will show a discharge reading...

Johnson's would be good for you as they're in Kansas IF they still do wheels.
Steve Johnson was in Oklahoma. He hasn't been to Chickasha in several years. Last time I checked his website was still up, but I tried to contact him a couple of times and got no response.

You can't go wrong with Noah Stutzman. I sent him rims and hubs I had picked up...

Suggestion for the felt on the engine block. It likes to move around when you try to install the hogshead. Mix it with a little RV and put it in place. Let it set for a day and then install the hogshead. Save a lot of @#$%^&*

Looks like between the two, you can make one really good piece!
That seems to be how I put most of my model Ts together. Two or three bad pieces to make one good piece. That and I fix a lot of pieces most people wouldn't. I find some special satisfaction in fixing all those pieces.

Thanks guys. All installed. I was just worried as I could still see the threads.

I would say 1/4 is way too much. That's equivalent to 1/2 diameter. If you were to measure the circumference of the bend at 1/4 that would be closer. A machinist should have a set of radius gauges with which you can measure it accurately.

Allan from down under.

The only place I believe I could place a .065 shim is to make one to fit between the notch plate and inner differential housing, but then my shifter fork MAY not move the sliding clutch gear enough for a positive shift. Other spots appear to affect the sliding gear mesh with the notch plate and thrust plate. I've got to think on this some more. :)

Looks like I’ve got some catching up to do. You can tell the Mercury dash has gone through a few changes in the last 100 years.

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You did it and it looks good!

According to the listed parts, straight shank ball was '19 - '21 then the remainder of production was the tapered shank ball.

Wrapping up 1904. As Ford Motor Co. and Henry Ford are completing their first full year in business, sales of the 10 hp Model A have gone well, and the company is growing and profiting. The Board, and shareholders have approved building a new factory at Piquette, and the future looks bright.

Meanwhile, the point of this last post for 1904 is to...

Right now you can get Rotella 15W40 online at WalMart for $15/gal. The 10W30 is twice that much. Don't know why. 15-40 works just fine. To me, it's the best oil around.
I asked a well known engine/transmission rebuilder who has done a lot of Model T driving. 15W-40 was his choice. Another famously prolific T driver told me he uses Kendall...

This should be a link to pictures of all the cars.

Billy Jones and Ernie Hare were GREAT! Masters of song and comedy.

Hey Warwick...
Well we 'bout cleaned 'em out! Lotsa tires, some model A stuff, lotsa parts.

Don has everything from a 1909 Coupe, a gorgeous 1911 Limousine...only one in the world (think that's what he said), a beautiful 1916 Town Car, tons of 50s & 60s cars of all types, many totally original. Finally met him of course, a super, nice and quiet...

Gene that would be great. Thanks Dan

Gathered information from various sources on the Internet

Color -
Color isn't an indication of grease performance and often dyes are added by the manufacturer to help users distinguish one from the other
In the Mobil line , there are many different colors used:
-Dark blue – typically for multipurpose greases made from conventional oil base...

The first two were pre-tour videos.

Ronni riding on his running board was Saturday. Bruce said he did finish the run.

The weather was like that all week.

Many many thanks to all the owners who allowed me to ride in their cars.

Thanks, Frank. I will put the 1129 bulb on my shopping list.
(And thanks to John Regan.) :)

Another idea is to incorporate a voltmeter and switch into the existing magneto charger. That way you can manually observe what's going on and manually regulate it. Once the car is started there is no need for the battery to be charged. The buzz coils on...

Thank you for the photos and information. I will now try to determine what is going on with my windshield.

frontyboy

I've never had my head gaskets stick so tight that the gasket was ruined. I used a heavy coat of Copper Coat on the gasket and follow the directions which says to let it DRY before installation. I used to just hang up the old ones on a nail but now will start to reuse them like I did before.

All advise given is good, but to me the Ford instructions of filling the hub and hub cap are rational. For the wheel hub, while not complete filled, I usually put several tongue depressor loads in the inner hub, and smear them around, as that cavity can hold moisture.

Then the hub cap is filled, and it serves to supply grease , but better to...

If you are going to order new tires and tubes, you should order them now in case it takes them a long time to get to you. Like a lot of Model T parts, I think tubes, flaps and tires are very hard to get now, so save your tires, tubes and flaps, make repairs to the tubes where needed and re-mount them on your rims when you are ready in case you are...

Hi Dan, I sent a reply to your e-mails.

pretty sure if you click on my link, you will have found them

I agree too that the idea of a spacer for getting the right spacing for the transmission / mag ring is not a bad idea if it’s necessary. It’s not a ‘farm fix’ in my mind. In fact the same idea is used on modern engines today. A look at Summit Racings website on crankshaft, flex plates, clutch set ups on stock as well on racing engines shims of all...

sky high! i will check what i have .......

The way I did my 26 Tudor windows was to attache the felt channel at the bottom and not connect the top. Then insert the glass into the channels and slide it down to the window regulator. Then pull up the felt channel and attach the top segment.

I agree with Steve, especially if the engine is out of the car and a complete rebuild of the magneto is needed or desired. You can also adjust the height of the magnets above the surface of the flywheel. You can also test and replace any broken magnets that way. And you can adjust the distance of the coil ring from the engine to get best...

I'm with Scott,
The amount of work to fit skinny block cheby pistons and the lack of compression I don't think the term If it isn't broke don't fix it would apply. Unless there is a A crank in the engine. I have seen Y block pistons in a A crank engine but the stroke would make up for the piston only coming up to the top of the block.( Kind of...

Thank You all for your information, that is what I thought it was but the twist on the jaws made me wonder. ——dan

Jahn, I used 9/64 diameter x 0.25 hollow-body rivets from McMaster.com. They also have hollow-end rivets.

Still for sale

FJ

Mike Coats, are you any closer to discovering the source of the extra electricity.

The spark voltage from the coil is the only voltage that is high enough to provide you a shock.

That high secondary voltage comes out the bottom button of the coil and it is a very short trip from there to either one of your coil primary voltage sources.

Thanks Mark!

That is perfect!

The floor boards were going to be my next question!

So, I got two birds with one stone! Thanks again!!!