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I have one left over from my sprint car restoration projects. I will look for it tomorrow.

frontyboy

Engine is in. We took it out with a skid loader and put it in with a good hoist. Much easier. Son and grandson like it better than the Bobcat.

Do we know what part of VT they are based?

I installed mine about a foot below the terminal block under the hood where it is easily accessible. I also got the modern fuse holder so fuses are readily available. I did not want it under the car where it can get wet and I have to lie on my back to get at it.

Looks like motorcycle speedo drive.
It would clamp to the rear frame & that gear / sprocket would mesh with the sprocket on the rear wheel .
Probably worth pretty good money in the vintage motorcycle world.

It probably was a machine screw with a nut on the other side that was put on sometime back to help hold on the striker. The hinges on my 21 were held on by at least one machine screw and nut. I saw this when I restored the car so I put it back the same way on the hinge and added a machine screw with nut on the striker too. Makes since to me to do...

Lang’s has them if you can’t find one at your local bearing, seal and etc supplier.

Pinging or spark knock can sound like a knock, a rattle, like a pebble hitting a window, or a little like glass breaking. Backing off the throttle will stop it. Opening the throttle will bring it back. It does not occur at idle or light throttle running. It can be caused by overheating, lean mixture, too much spark advance, a valve running hot due...

I once owned a 1917 that was still in mostly original condition and it had the same clip pictured above

If you have not done it yet, I highly suggest rebuilding the rear axle. They're usually in sorry shape mechanically and have several things wrong in addition to the well known babbit thrust washers. A failure in the rear end means no more foot brake.

Stephen

Austin

If you haven't already, you should drive over to Loves Park and visit with Bob. Looks like you are only 30 miles away.

I have been to his place a few times, we recently got a new wiring kit through him for a 1923 TT firetruck. Works good!

I have had one on my Model A for several years. The starter gear engages before it starts turning. Very easy on ring gears.

John

It looks more like the rear hole is correct & the fronts are off. Fit the radiator & shell on. The front of the shelf looks too close to the radiator mounting studs.
Those shelf's are for a high radiator, wide fire wall. (late 23-25).
Safer to assume the frame is correct & the repop parts are off.
Yes on the headlight wiring holes.

Awesome group of shots! Thank you for sharing them!

Here is another view of the 1909 transcontinental racer with the wreath on it. Another one of my favorite cars.

v/r,

jason

Great Job Steve. Excellent video. You know just the location to take your T.

That could work especially for fitment of the reverse disc because it makes contact with the taper of the pulley.
The original pulley was 3” diameter and this one isn’t that far off especially with it being adjustable.

Just purchased a case of 10W-30 at the local farm store. $2.59/quart. Paid $6.00 at OReilly last week while I was on the road.

Aso got a quart of 85W-140 at the local OReilly and it was only $8.99

I should be set for the winter.

Correction: the scissor lift has locks so it “cannot” inadvertently settle down.

You also seem to be missing the stiffener that holds both rods to the steering column -

One thing to consider with the Ford system is that when the car is headed up a steep slope, the oil level in the sump area will likely increase due to oil running back to the sump faster. More oil in the sump would mimic having a higher oil level in the engine and tend to offset the effects of having to push the oil uphill to the front of the...

Good luck to you.....

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They also serve onion rings on an inverted funnel!

I have the honor of sharing a birthday with Groucho!

Thanks for all the responses. I inspected the races and bearings and they look fine. Repacked the bearings and put it all back together with new National Oil Seals 204002 dust seal from the local auto parts store. I did find that tightening up the nut affected the tightness of the bearing, so had to play around with a looser fit of the outer...

Rich, thanks for your thoughts. It looks like we agree on reproduction parts made incorrectly! There is no excuse for it.

Great car with great parts. I’m betting you could scrounge for years and not come up with a half dozen of those exhaust manifolds.

Andy

Thank you!

Nice to meet you Andy at the sonic cruise. Hope you get your T back on the road.

Granted, they were New OLD Stock, but never again . White tires are just so much more delicate than black that I would rather be incorrect than go down that road again. I've used elderly black tires too, and they weren't devoured by country roads like those Firestone whites.

Yes. The 490 was designed for the 1926-‘27 styles with the cowl mounted fuel tanks in mind. I don’t know about them being geared for Kilometers. Russ Furstow would know. He would also be the one most likely to find a 490 setup for you. Jim Patrick

thanks again to all for your feedback - It is very much appreciated.

Answer about Canadian door:
I wish that it was Canadian , ) I've gathered from the limited data I could find about the Argentina plant, that all model T's from Buenos Aries were assembled from parts originally made in Detroit. They were sporadically shipped south. They often...

For a car like this your making a good decision not to “restore” it. Maybe change the oil and maybe the bands then give it good wash job and that’s it. Also you might raise up the seats and use air and a vacuum to get the dust and dirt from sitting for years.

'Live' Youtube videos are published now:
Part 1 Generator System
Part 2 Generator Cut-out
Part 3 Adjusting the 3rd Brush, Flashing the Coil, Earthing the Coil

Thanks for the comments and suggestions!

Lang's sells that part for the early timer rod end. Have a spare one, new in pkg. too.

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This is his best bet!
Thanks for posting Dan! I was looking for them too, but sheesh couldn't find it!
Sometimes it's all in the wording while searching.

Really nice pics, and looks like a great time Dave. Thanks for sharing.
Over here, about a 15 minute T drive we also have a fish hatchery, right next to a huge bunch of trout streams, people come to feed the trout daily, the water just boils with them when we feed them. Fun to watch them swim in place against the strong current of those streams....

Pat, that is a good question. I did noting to the spring. I just installed it onto the frame , and the gaps at the ends of leafs were gone.

Amazing what a little weight will do, isn't it?

That’s what it’s looking like, I guess that’s tomorrow night s project. Thanks

If you dont put the rear bearing felt retaining washer back in, you are off that thickness also. Some wavy washers @ the rear should solve the problem once the front bearing is completely seated. A lesser quality fix is to place a new felt washer in the housing...

Sounds like a lot of fun! The Kevlar bands are only for low, reverse, and brake. The high gear clutch is a multiple disk steel clutch which runs in oil. Sometimes people put in aftermarket clutch disks and they might not take to slipping as much as the original type disks. So if you have a more modern replacement high speed clutch, it might have...

The 1912 Packard bus although challenging was a hoot to work on & drive. It weighed so much that it broke many of the tiles it's pictured on when driving over them. It had a battery ignition starting system that worked most of the time, that's good because the hand crank is almost chest high.
You just have to love this old stuff.
Craig.

Ah yes, TTs, a whole other can-o-worms tire-wise.

Except for some amount of Canadian production, which used I think it was 20 inch rim size X about 6 front and rear? Front and rear were always different. I don't know for sure about some of the timelines. I have a general idea of what years some options were available, but I may be off a year or...

Just heard from our Steve Jelf

I'm with Jeff - a spoke shave and patience. Once you get the shape a sander can help a little but you don't want to get too aggressive with power tools.

Thank you most kindly, Adrian. Jim Patrick

The unsuccessful bidder apparently thought it was worth $17,500, so the successful bidders was willing to go $100 more.

Goes to show what a Model T can bring at auction, and if it's painted hot re-sale red ....sky's the limit! :lol:

No wobble :-) That will give a much more enjoyable driving experience, and well worth the work done.

Great looking cars,
Cheers, Adrian

For best results, any gaskets/washers used in take apart plugs ought to be relaced every time they're taken apart. Keep electrode profiles as close to as-new as possible. Carefully file eroded electrodes to restore profile. Don't sand blast glazed porcelain parts. Don't use wire brushes on spark plug porcelains. A tight engine with good oil...

The fifth photo, non Ford sport roadster. I am fairly sure it is not either a Mercer or a Stutz. That was my immediate impression when I first looked at the photo last night. But I didn't have time then to confirm my thoughts. I have managed to spend a few minutes with google images to confirm some of what I thought I remembered.
My first...

You must stay with in the rules unless you’re connected.

Hi Dave, That's a nice tour report. Concerning the climb to the tower at Holy Hill, there's a sign at the bottom that says it's 178 steps to the top. No wonder you were out of breath!!!

Keith

I think Don Ellis has one for sale

Cool! I will have to try and attend.

Picture of marks carb

Nicht so gut?

Thanks for the comments. My responses:

Adrian, Aren't the nuts castle nuts?

Tyler, I did not know there are sockets for square nuts. I will look for them at local hardware stores. The reason I want be able to retighten is that T-Springs literature states Extreme care must be taken NOT to paint the contact surfaces where the leaves lay on top of...

Yes. Any deviation from the norm is a problem. Every spring I have ever seen has the ends of each leaf sitting on the top of the underlying leaf and when taking the spring apart, the leafs do not stay together. Ideally, there is a uniform space of about 3/8” between each leaf as the leafs separate. If there are no spaces, and the spring leafs fit...

Be prepared for the unexpected. Leave space in front of you. Know how to blow your horn and the brake and how to swerve to avoid problems without causing a worse one. You still can't predict what others will do. It's kind of like having a deer run across in front of you.
Norm

Loved the video Dave. Many thanks for taking me back to pre Eisenhower Interstate route from Milwaukee to Dearborn 😜...was washed with nostalgia

I'm using one from Lang's and it works fine.

That's a nice item. Does it provide any ventilation?

Yes, it has cast in air gaps under the lid. It allows ventilation.

John, Wayne, Rick and All,

Thanks so much for the information. The paperwork is good and taken care of for this car thankfully. I appreciate the good food for thought.

I just finished the fuel tank cleaning, that went really well.

Looking forward to getting the NH non original carb back on.

Of course, I will be installing correct hoses and...

Good to see you out showing off that speedster Rich. One girl Two heads, pretty rare.😁

:lol: :lol: Hey Dallas!! I thought the very same thing!! Or a Siamese twin? :lol:

Steve's did Sunday morning in my driveway. We were both a little surprised, it seemed. His ignition was acting up Sunday, so it wasn't a total shock.

See what I did there? ;)

Thanks for the information! If I assume that my bands were purchased and installed around 1918, as the advertisement above suggests, I guess that they served me well... and it is about time that I changed them.
Regards,
Mike

I was sitting at my kitchen table on Friday doing homework. Since I live off the railroad tracks, noise is nothing to be concerned with.
However, as I was sitting there, I heard something that sounded... different. I didn't think too much of it, at first, I thought it was just a train sitting waiting for the line to clear. Then Steve opened the...

John,

You are correct. Hugo has the car in Canada, but he was kind enough to bring it to OCF.

Excellent car.

Mr. Snow got that good by replacing bands every 3,000 miles or so, or 6 months whichever came first... and he never suffered any other consequences of having his cotton lined, misshapen bands stuffed into the transmission through the transmission cover other than having to change them every 3000 miles or every 6 months.

There are about 20 revisions to these firewalls/dash therefore you would have to know what revision applies to what model. They are made somewhat generic and additional holes may need to be drilled where needed. The frame space is 86/125 = .688, a standard grade of plywood is
5/8 = .625 therefore 5/8 plywood will slide in with .063 clearance and...

The hood former does have a hole for the hood pivot rod. The radiator support rod goes through the wood dash and is fastened with a nut. Yes the hole in the hood former would be exposed to the weather even with the hood pivot rod inserted. They were a size for size fit when new so that minimal water would get in. As they wore the hole became...

That’s an easy fix.

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Truth be told, I'd sacrifice my time in the K for the prototype... that would be dreamy! :)

Bottom line is, the world is in a huge mess. And it seems like it's gonna be a long time before things get better.

What about this truck?:

I wouldn't say it is original, but restored.

I have only found Goodyear irons in Australia. I have two surplus to requirements, but they are not a matched pair. One has a longer depression for the Goodyear script than the ones Russ shows.

Allan from down under.

On my B597 block I cut the bottom of the stems off flush with the underside of the block. That got rid of all the rusty stem below. Then I punched them out from the bottom as Joe Bell suggested.

Allan from down under.

I saw Derrek go by when I was riding with Kyle in his roadster. Don't know if my smile was bigger or if River's was. ;)

LOL, Dave, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. And learned a lot about the T ignition system for when we finally get ours done. ;)

And, yes, I did do some homework Saturday morning. :P

Dan I will do that as soon as I get back down to Florida. Thanks

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You could arrest the rust and turn the rust black by wiping down with “Ospho” after a light sanding to knock down any bloom or crusty rust. Try to avoid sanding the original paint. Jim Patrick

An old mechanic (he was about 60 and I was 14 at the time) It's not the gasoline that goes through your carburetor it's the gas that sits in your carburetor that causes the problems. The easiest way to avoid the problems is when you put your machine, boat, motorcycle up for the winter shut the gas off to the carburetor while the engine is running...

I'm in the paint it black group.

I'd venture to quesstimate in the teens into the 20's.

That's an excellent thread link Frank!
The 6273 vaporizer plate on mine had a big smile rusted out of it when I took it apart :D . Kinda like the big smiley!
New plate, 6276 tube and 6277 heater coil. 6269 outlet pipe as I ruined the old one getting it out. :oops: That little screw.
Some filing, sealant and got lucky on Lucky the TT. 3 crank-pulls...

Thank you Pat for the info on the packing
I'll check it out

I think the one you should use is the one Dan Treace posted. I have a 22 with the switch inside on a dash panel and that is how it is wired. What Dan's diagram calls a distributor is commonly called a timer. If you have stock T ignition system you would have a timer.
Norm

The one Dan posted is the same as the one I posted (so lets not confuse...

I went on this tour several years ago, and really enjoyed it, even though I had to come from California. No, I didn't drive my car!

Does anybody have a early type brush holder for the square type brush that would sell to me. I was able to find a few square brushes but I have a later type round holder in my TW timer. Send me a email via MTFC. Thanks Kevin