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You could arrest the rust and turn the rust black by wiping down with “Ospho” after a light sanding to knock down any bloom or crusty rust. Try to avoid sanding the original paint. Jim Patrick

An old mechanic (he was about 60 and I was 14 at the time) It's not the gasoline that goes through your carburetor it's the gas that sits in your carburetor that causes the problems. The easiest way to avoid the problems is when you put your machine, boat, motorcycle up for the winter shut the gas off to the carburetor while the engine is running...

I'm in the paint it black group.

I'd venture to quesstimate in the teens into the 20's.

That's an excellent thread link Frank!
The 6273 vaporizer plate on mine had a big smile rusted out of it when I took it apart :D . Kinda like the big smiley!
New plate, 6276 tube and 6277 heater coil. 6269 outlet pipe as I ruined the old one getting it out. :oops: That little screw.
Some filing, sealant and got lucky on Lucky the TT. 3 crank-pulls...

Thank you Pat for the info on the packing
I'll check it out

I think the one you should use is the one Dan Treace posted. I have a 22 with the switch inside on a dash panel and that is how it is wired. What Dan's diagram calls a distributor is commonly called a timer. If you have stock T ignition system you would have a timer.
Norm

The one Dan posted is the same as the one I posted (so lets not confuse...

I went on this tour several years ago, and really enjoyed it, even though I had to come from California. No, I didn't drive my car!

Does anybody have a early type brush holder for the square type brush that would sell to me. I was able to find a few square brushes but I have a later type round holder in my TW timer. Send me a email via MTFC. Thanks Kevin

I have been told many years ago to use the paint in the picture. Rebuilt all four of my springs this spring and used this spray again. 501EE577-9D81-41CB-8478-DF21351763C8.jpeg

And you should see the smile on Pauls face while he is driving. He is a little boy in the toy store. Thank you Paul.

26-27…..Frankencar here had a different one, but the previous owners must’ve used smaller bolts to make it fit cuz the holes in the frame didn’t quite match up, the other one had the protrusion for the felt washer on the top end. This one fits correctly, at least frame hole wise….I’ll have to ream a bushing for it….don’t see a place for felt on...

Hello, everyone

Interesting post. I have the exact same problem on my 1926 Touring. The ball is 1.18 (30mm) but is nice and evenly round. The ball cup is badly chipped and needs to be welded on and machined.
Would it make sense to leave the ball as is and machine the ball sockets to 1.18 ?

greetings from Switzerland

Thanks Duey! If you bring a T and would like to cross off a bucket list item of driving a prairie tractor. I'll make sure it happens.

Even though the rubber pads are the correct spring pads for the 1926-‘27 Model T, it sounds like you want to use the leather ones. If that is the case, check out the below all leather pads from Snyder’s. They appear to be made of three thick leather pieces like the originals. Two smaller pieces riveted to a longer piece of leather. The shorter pad...

Impressive float bowl rebuild here.

Mine measures 37 x 17 I am sending it to the upholstery shop to do all the interior, mine should be close enough, what do you think?

Its to bad they didn't take a picture of it! get in close and see what engine number it is. I say bring it to the surface ;)

I was able to purchase front & rear top springs, bottom springs for the rear, I still am looking for front bottom springs. TY.

I went with Grundy,75 a year .thankfully no clear coat needed. I would have went haggerty,same cost,just the local place I get my moderns insurance at deals in Grundy so it is handy to just go by there and pay it.

I use a regular 1/2 ratchet handle, 4 extension, and a quality deep socket. The ratchet handle is close to 9.5 from the center of the drive square to the end of the handle I grip the outer third of the handle.

Good luck on the hunt, Bruce

I am acquainted with this part due to the 3 solid days I spent trying to get repro dust shields to marry up with repaired original fenders. What a wrestling match! Along with a lot of snipping, welding, and moving holes 1/4 hither and yon... :lol:

This car had a lot of rot and has taken years of off/on work to...

That’s my thinking. The parts are pretty cheap and I have it apart already. I am adding Apco caps to the drag link. To deal with any wear in the Rod.

I intend to bring the field ground wire out through an insulated terminal in the generator body, leaving the third brush arrangement intact. I believe that would allow using a 2 or 3 element 6 volt Delco type regulator for automatic general regulation and using the third brush to pre-set a fixed limit on the maximum charge rate. Alternatively,...

The multiple disk clutch submerged in oil will have a bit more drag than the clutch in a more modern stick shift car, or an automatic in neutral. With a T, you might still experience some drag when pushing the car on level surface, but if it is in neutral, you should be able to push it without turning the engine, and also be able to crank without...

It does depend whether the lever is bent to the side or to the front/back. Sideways bends are easy to fix with two large crescent wrenches, one set to the thickness of the handle and the other adjusted to the thickness of the first. This second one is the lever for the bend.
If somehow the bend is fore and aft, heat will likely be needed to...

It appears that while you had things out to modify, coils got rearranged. You'll have to undo that error.

Yes. Fascinating pictures of the era. All interesting in their own right but the 5th picture from the top of the basically ‘14 touring holds my interest. Does the fact it has a ‘15 hood and electric (magneto ?) lights make it a real early ‘15 ? Or, considering the 5 lug demountables, maybe he is just an accessory maven. Many thanks for sharing Tom...

A hearty thank you for all the good information! I am going to keep looking for now, the truck I had the pleasure of looking over needed a bit much for the price. All wheels needed respoked, the front spring needed replaced, hood and radiator did not line up, among other things.

You do not want flat surfaces or right angles on a pressure vessel. They will FAIL. A vessel designed to hold pressure may be destroyed if vacuum is applied. Gasoline tanks and propane tanks are built very differently, and it's not just for looks.

Couple more pictures.....

have a state-issued handicapped placard - I wonder how they deal with handicapped from abroad - Canada og even Europe. Or maybe they don't :-)

The car is at the Henry Ford. I saw it and they were driving it around.

moving to the top as a reminder.

I am starting my Hershey list this weekend.

Olivier CHABANNE, Thanks for posting this, I have read about Montier before and learned about some of his racing activities. Nice to view a couple of his OHV cylinder heads in action.

Anyone can learn more about his exploits and see photos of some of his cars @

I second what Walt said regarding outside oil line. The one on my car likely limited the damage to just one rod as it was the only functioning oil line on the car.

Gotcha….thanks!

Block E!?

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She was quite wealthy. So are the Kardashians, the drug/human smuggling lords , and Kim Jong Un. So are most members of the U.S. Congress. Unlike the congress, Her Majesty never took so much as a penny from me.

Thank you!

Excellent the first Jelfie. Well done

Regarding the fender mounted mirror:

My brother has a 1932 Pierce Arrow Brougham with mirrors attached to the sidemounts. Absolutely useless. They vibrate constantly and never seem to be pointed in the direction that you need for them to be. If the mirrors vibrate too much on a 5200 lb. luxury car with shock absorbers, imagine what that mirror...

Sorry for the bad drawings, just from my notebook.
Also on the gear shift pattern the number of forward gears and reverse gears is because I also have a Ruckstell 2 speed rearend.

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One of the pictures is of the gear shift knob I cut the gear shift pattern with a Dremel tool. Instead of numbers I drilled one hole for...

One thing Mike USED to do, and still might, is install the material on the seat bottoms. Boy was it worth it for me. They really turned out great.

There was a thread about another guy doing brass work, his name is Britten, here's the thread

They used it in 1913 and 1914. The cork float and float valve have given me problems.

Is your engine and ignition system stock? If not, how is it modified? Correct spark timing in any particular instance depends on a number of factors. Stock torque maximum is around 900 RPM. A stock T engine can take a good bit of advance at that speed using pump gasoline.

If I recall correctly (it was a couple decades ago?) ? I stuck a small punch in the hollow of the wrist pin, then allowed it to rotate until the punch wedged against the block, to tighten the wrist pin bolt. A small bolt might work if you don't have a small enough punch. However the threads on a bolt might break under that much stress?
This before...

I was able to put a rear spring together with a solid rod, a couple of C clamps, and a couple of Irwin bar clamps. Place all the leaves in order on the rod. Slowly pull the leaves together with the bar clamps. When that is about as tight as you can get them, begin using the C clamps. As you tighten make sure the rod is loose so you will be able to...

Bought an item from a well-respected forum member in CA.

Item was scheduled to be delivered on a specific day. Checked the mail. Not there. Checked tracking. Said undeliverable no such number.

I went to the post office a mile from my home. Told them I would be camping in their lobby until either the carrier or my package showed up. Told them I...

I’m in. As long as I remember. What day? What time? Where?

Never mind, see you there.

Come to Florida! Show them your bill of sale, Tell them what model(tudor, fordor,touring,Roadster) and year take them outside and let them see the
Engine # Go home sit back with suds and wait 2 to 3 weeks for your title to come in the mail.

Dave who????? 8-)

Loren Burch in Pasadena turned me on to the leather supplier he used and the result was very good. Photos show the result 15 years later after cleaning and conditioning with Lexol. I don't have the name anymore but it was a Californis business. 20220416_150903.jpg 20220416_150854.jpg

Trying to remove the jet or seat in these old carb bodies without a torch will only knacker up the brass slots as you have here. Dont bother, they wont come out. You will only destroy the slot & possibly make the parts unremovable.

Get out the blue wrench. With an oxidizing flame, heat the iron on both sides of where the thread is behind. Cherry...

As Archivist for the UK club, I have digital files of photos. PM if interested.

Hi Larry. Yes installing a 26-27 backing plate on a Perfecto rear end housing was more difficult than I imagined, but I had a completely restored Perfecto ready to install so I opted for the Perfecto.
The Perfecto I purchased from NvBob recently is really a nice low mileage unit, so I'll probably proceed with that. They are both fun and...

He might make Helga look like a school girl comparing massages.

I believe that Ford specified 1/32 side play for the small end of the rod. It is of critical importance that the rod journal on the crankshaft be in good condition.

If they aren't a bit bigger, what's going to hold them in?

They did a super job,a lot of work went on behind the scenes for us to enjoy.

THANKS to all that was involved.

He’s not using a gross valve.

Seems like I read somewhere that the more common open car splash shields can be modified a bit to fit the center doors because the body mounts are all in the same location on the frames. Or something like that. Not sure about it.

drain the radiator some and fish around with a coat hanger...I bet as Jerry said, the top baffle broke free in the header tank and is now laying across the tubes...been there, done that, in our '15'.

Once I found it, I made two little hooks which holds it up and suspends it from inside the neck. Has worked fine for last 3 years and kept me from...

1926-‘27 T’ emergency brakes have brake linings but not made out of multiple materials. The fact that the question was asking which band lining material was the best made it obvious the question was referring to transmission band linings. Just sayin’. :) Jim Patrick

Thank you Jim. Finally a voice of intelligence.

Thanks Mark!

That looks like an awesome site - I have a few personal things I need to post there as well.

Thanks for the great resource!!!
-Joe

Thank you for this great information. I took the measurements given here and other threads to make a judgement of what I need to make. I went back to the basics of frequency as a function of tube length. The fundamental frequency of a closed tube is,

f = (speed of sound) / (4 x tube length) Solving for length is, L=c/4f where c is speed of sound...

Leo, we are nothing, if not “fashion platters…”

A little “Motown…

I put the last nails in my 1916’s Classtique top last night in time for the Old Car Festival. The top installed perfectly and I followed their on line videos and their printed instructions. Mike even worked with me to ensure the curtain fasteners matched the locations on the previous Carter top.

I also am in the process of installing a Classtique...

I put the hand lever in the neutral position whenever I am moving the car in tight spaces. I drive several normal vehicles with manual transmissions, and I don't want to mistakenly jam the T clutch pedal into low as I'm pulling up to an obstacle or backing toward an obstacle or manuevering around people or animals. When I'm ready to drive away, I...

thanks for your response. The fork is original so hopefully it will bend as you say. The pipe leverage was a good idea.

Another thing to realize with early brass cars such as the 1912 and up to 1914, is that Ford gave the car a ID plate number. As car production increased the car ID plate numbers started to drift off the car engine numbers. So original paper work, like a bill of sale from the Ford Dealership would show a car ID number and may or may not show the...

Allan, I hope you are wrong. I gave that a cursory thought whilst doing this and decided that the constant bathing in warm oil should protect this. If it does melt I think it may remain in place with a bit of sag.

I’ll tell you what, if this fails I will dredge this post up and confess my folly! Meanwhile if anyone has a better material which is...

Is that an old tree on the right serving as a power line pole? I remember in the 1950’s when I was about 6 years old, when power line poles had those screw-in foot pegs going up to the top and I remember climbing halfway up a pole equipped with these in front of our house before wisely decided against going further and climbing down. I was not...

If he taking a bike route then he might be along this path or either side of it.

Just two more thoughts, you asked how far the wood goes down into the bows. Here are my new '14 bows.
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Also, I noticed that sometimes many holes were made for the tacks or nails in the area I believe we are talking about.
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I wasn't exactly sure where the Hole you mentioned was located but assumed it was at the top of the...

Thanks Russ. Will let you know when they have them in stock.
Dennis

Please tell him I am by Dayton Ohio. Will try to beat him there.

If you don’t have a ground wire between the base of the distributor and the engine block, install one.

The first computer I ever owned had an auto correct feature. Just for fun, I decided to try it out. I typed in the word Oleo . The idiotic auto correct decided I was trying to spell Ohio . I have never used it since.

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I have those on my 26 holding the windshield in place. DSCN1751.JPG

Strange,the radiators are different sometimes in pictures.
I just wish I was younger or in better health,I have always wanted to build a close replica,I bet that would BE FUN to drive.

Mike,

That's the exact same situation I'm facing. My hope is to peel back the top/straps/bowdrill, etc., remove & replace the wood, then carefully tack everything back in place.

Unfortunately, the suppliers only sell straight sections of wood that do not have the bends/curves at each end, as the originals do. My exact problem is that my bow is...

Trent

Thanks for your details on the brackets. My photo just depicts the common types found, and I left the ‘17-‘25 dates on that bracket as the earlier ones have more unique markings as some are raised embossed in the castings, making ‘11-‘16 just exceptions for real authenticity, as you noted they all have that later angle.

For early ones, and...

I saw a Jay Leno's Garage episode this morning featuring a ride in a Model T equipped with a wood gasifier, and a trip on the Mt. Washington (coal fired) cog railway.