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We had our local Father's Day Car Show and Swap meet last weekend. It was a great chance to see old cars and old friends.
I drove the '09 to the show as a contrast to the wide variety of cars there.
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Kevin had just bought this 15 speedster to add to his vast collection of Red cars including a Ferrari and a Lamborghini. It had passed...

I replaced the ignition and light switch contacts 30 some years ago. Everything worked ok, but I wanted to have the face plate nickel plated.

After disassembling everything I found the lock cylinder (tumbler) was missing 2 of the 4 wafers. The rectangular end of the pot metal cylinder wasn't so rectangular anymore - a chunk was missing where it...

Last weekend we took part of the international French Model T happening this time in Verdun 2022.
This concentration is each year always on the last weekend of June on an other place in France.
Last time was in 2019, due to Corona,2020 and 2021 didn't happen so you can imagine the joy we had to see back some old freinds.

Here a few links with the...

I need to paint a new aluminum head. Any suggestions appreciated.

I was contacted by a lady that lives in Elkhart IN that is looking for someone to give her dad a ride in a Model T for his 100th birthday. I would gladly do it except my car is being restored right now (Not running). Perhaps there is some guys local in the area that could do this? He walks with a walker but can get up and down. The Birthday party...

We saw this Model T pickup when we were leaving the Tetons last Monday. Since we didn't track him down I was wondering if anyone recognized it. It had a Texas plate on it. How much fun he must have been having.
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We also stopped at Menor's Ferry in the Grand Teton National park and found this photo of a YPC bus crossing...

I have some questions on my 1925 Model T Coupe.

We ordered new tires and took them to someone here locally who restores vintage cars to have them mounted on the split rims. Went to put them on last night, the first one went on perfectly. No issues at all. All 3 of the others were a nightmare to get on. It seems the rims with the tires mounted...

Has anyone ever removed this and left it off? It’s impossible to clean under.

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I here so much talk of innertubes not being any count these days. I am getting ready to mount a new set of 450-21, Had already purchased new tubes back in 2015. Opened them up today, and they say, Made In EEC , but no brand on the tube. Are they worth installing? Give me some opinions.

How can I rejuvenate the reflectors in my sidelights and rear kerosene light?
Should I sand/smooth the back and paint using a high sheen silver?
Right now I’ve got Alumlnum foil pieces for reflection.
What have some of you done?

On another note. If my 22 touring has only kerosene sidelights and a kerosene tail light, does that indicate that it...

Planning on using a paint stripper to remove what appears to be a lacquer finish on brass lamps before polishing.
I've used paint stripper on furniture but never on brass.
Any issues or cautions I should be aware of?
Is there a better way?

For members who own brass era Model T’s and members who enjoy restoring antiques with polished brass parts, the subject of polishing and protecting polished brass comes up often on the forum.

Though I don’t have a brass era T, I have been collecting and restoring antiques for 55 years and until recently, have not been able to find a good...

Howdy guys,

I’m in need of a RHD Canadian Generator and Mounting Bracket, OR THE AUSTRALIAN VERSION?? Of this setup (see attached photos) or any information on someone that may have, or know where to get these parts.

Thanks!

Call/Text: 314-287-1901

Email: stephensmail2001@gmail.com
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Hello All!

I'm brand new to the forum. This is my first post.

I have a 1925 Coupe that I inherited from my grandad. It has been in a barn for the last 20+ years and I'm working on getting it back in running condition.

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First thing to address is the tires. I've recently ordered the tires and tubes, however, the tubes that...

I have been working on Model T's for 20 years and still only know a little bit about these great cars This forum and the little black book have taught me a great deal ! I am fixing one that has no connecting control rods between the spark advance and carb control rods on the steering column There are no connecting pieces on either of the rods! It...

Would appreciate any help I can get identifying this early truck chassis. No markings present.

After finally getting my '22 running well and building a Touring body so my wife and kids can all go for a ride, on the first trip around town, the engine suddenly started making a loud knocking sound while cruising in high gear on a flat road. The knock (banging more accurately) increases with load. At idle it gets more pronounced as the throttle...

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MTFCSD 2022 San Diego Endurance Run , a 3 Day Event
All welcome. Speedster and Non-Speedster Classes.
Saturday, Oct. 15 - Monday, Oct 17.
Day 1: Lowlands Tour.
Day 2: The Main Event.
Day 3: Salton Sea Hangover Tour
The Palm Canyon Resort, Borrego Springs, CA. (805) 691-8086
Preferred rates available until July 8th. Group: MODEL T FORDS...

I haven't found a reference explaining the different lengths of the bends, but I assume they're for different years.

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Both rods have the later forged ends. References disagree about the year those began. Both rods are 54¼ long.

I got a flyer in the mail saying the swap-o-rama was going to be discontinued. I presume the horseless carriage part will also not be.
It would be a real shame to lose this meet. The last one was supposedly sold out, but had a lot of holes in the swap grid. It was still a very good meet. Lots of good stuff. The threat of rain & recent rise in gas...

My 1915 Touring Car is running rough at higher rpm after I’ve replaced all ignition components and I’ve decided to go through the carb. and make sure it is ok as I have never done this yet on this car and feel that some issue with it is probably the culprit.
I have discovered that instead of a needle and seat attached to the float that I instead...

Yesterday I scored a set of counter weights at a price too good to pass up. So this is the first time I've actually given any thought to using them in a engine. I would be interested in the opinions of you guys who may have used them in the past. So tell me what you think, pros, cons, successes, failures, whatever. Thanks in advance. Bob

Making up a list of items that need to go to the plater and wasn’t sure about a few things. On my two project vehicles should the following items be nickel plated or painted?

1927 TT:
-ignition switch plate (oval style)
-windshield pivot slides
-windshield pivot clamp nuts
-outer door handle
-inner door handle

1927 Tudor:
-windshield pivot...

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What are these and are they adaptable to Model T ?
Looks like 6:00 x 20 tires

Just a shout out to Bill for being so dependable and on time and courteous when he picked up a 1905 H Maxwell that I sold. The buyer arranged the shipping and I couldn't of been more happy with his service after meeting Bill. Thank you and safe travels!

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On the '27 the steering has been a bit quirky at times. Have always checked the obvious pieces of the front end, steering gear, king pins, spindle bearings, air pressure in tires, spring hangers. etc. etc.

But garage time today, jacked up the chassis, and pulled the wheels for tour inspections and grease, and noticed the spring stack would...

Hey Mike, can I run a E timer with a 20 volt drill battery?

Today we rustled up another one of our picnic tours since Covid began. Started at member Arts house, on to the shore of Huron Park to eat, watch a snake swim and almost get caught by a Heron. Then off to the ice cream shop (thanks Mark for the treat!), then off we went on southward around a small village and a country tour working our way westward...

Artistic Youths needed.
We're looking for a great new T-Shirt for the Model T youth.
What better than one created by our own Youth Explorers.
Design must be T related of their own design (no adult help, photos, or internet images)
Enter as often as they want.
Deadline: design(s) must be received by 15 Sept 2022 (via email or mail).

A graphics...

There is a strange little foot pedal in the center of the floorboards just forward of the seat that is no longer hooked up to anything on my 1915 touring car. What was the purpose of the pedal?

This must have been a good seller when published on 1907. There are many copies as low as three dollars on tbay.

I finally bought one. It was quick light fluff.

Not sure why it appealed…..

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The love interest, Miss Marian Standish:

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The plot (what there is),...

Looking for a Model T member in or near Lakewood, Colorado. Please contact me by message or email gcarrother@aol.com
Thanks

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Sorry to keep hounding on certain subjects..... I bought this car the last week of March. I haven't driven it very far or at night. It has a 6volt Optima battery (I think). I have never charged said battery. The Ammeter never ever shows a charge. Never. It will show a discharge if, and only if I turn the lights on. I've had many other generator...

Reading the questions and comments , I was wondering about the members source of information for operation of the Model and repair:\?

1. Books.
2. Internet.
3. Forum.
4. Other.

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I know the high radiator and shell first appeared in late 1923. What year or years used the narrow (thin) radiator apron below the high shell? I have a high shell that doesn't have tapered or flaired sides like the 26-27 shells have and it has the narrow apron rivited to the shell mounting flanges. Just wondering what year and car or truck or both?

Saturday July 16, 2022 from 7:00Am until it’s over. One of the oldest and best swap meets in the west. Tons of Model T, Model A, and pre-war Ford stuff. Open to all makes and models, automotive and hobby related items only. Long Beach City College Veterans Stadium, 5000 Lew Davis St. Long Beach, CA. $5 Admission, Free Parking. Spaces are 20ft wide...

Hello Group. Can someone please tell me if there is a difference between the steering shafts on a 1926/27 and previous years? I have a pre-1926 column assy. (round flange) and want to know if I purchase the correct version (square flange) and correct mounting bracket to frame, will the steering shaft work, or there a different one needed for the...

I am going to buy a new set of plugs for my 21 that has a surging problem. I,m not sure if the plugs are the problem but where they look old and rusty I plan to replace. Lang’s champion 25 at$14.50 and motorcraft at $4.50
Should I go with champion and is it worth the extra money?

Found a pair of these in some stuff I have had for years. Anyone know the story on them? Yes, I know they are rear end thrust bearings, but who made them? Fit a T rear end. Not sure about thickness yet. Thanks Dan
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I was looking for a few early Ford ads and articles in Newspapers.com, and came across this. A Ford Model A, with options, for sale in Detroit, January 15, 1905:

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The owner offers to take a trial spin (who would have thought going for a spin was already part of the automobile lexicon?). Additionally,...

I just almost finished restoring my 3rd TT. I bought the chassis on a Bill of Sale and am now preparing to get a Title. The engine serial number is 10,955,119 and the old MTFCA encyclopedia states its a December 1924 engine from Highland Park. I understand that makes it a 1925 model. It has the ‘New and Improved’ engine/tranny style so I’m...

Where does the headlight wire from the back of the headlight bucket enter the car on a 1926-27 Model T since there is no hole in the hood shelf for this year?

Thanks Joe

Bill Devine and his wife were here yesterday looking around and he spotted these
door check straps with Firestone Logo, how cool is that, has anyone ever seen or known these were made? Bob

Who knows the thread size and thread count per inch for the oil drain plug in the crankcase and rear end? I need to buy a tap to chase the threads in a crankcase and am having trouble measuring the threads. Thanks.

Hello Everyone,
I am in the process of restoring my 1915 Model T Ford Touring car to original condition. It is my understanding that the correct ignition coils for this car are “brass top coils.”
Is this correct? And if so, does this mean that the metal plate on the top of the coil is made of brass? And if so, is that brass plate painted black or...

I've searched the best I could, but couldn't find anything.

I'd like to add an external trunk - wicker/fabric/leather to my 1919 Touring. I'm sure I've seen some with them with a mounting bracket to the frame. Does anyone have photos of this? Any idea what I start looking for in terms of bracketry or even trunks? I see some suited to As but...

Hello.

I am working on an emergency gas-tank cap. In case that I am low on gas I want to use an air-pump to pressurize the tank a little bit.

Of course, I don't want to modify the original brass cap, and even a used one is too expensive because of shipping cost, so I got the idea to 3D print one, including the thread, in Nylon, with a little...

Do any of you guy's have any spots that you are not going to be using?
Rich 561 262 o 3 9 3 call any time.

Contemplating the relative power of a Model T.

The legendary 20 mule teams pulled ten ton loads of borax c. 1886-89. Could a single Model T have done that job ?

Comparatively, I've got a toy John Deere 3005. Its 3cyl. Yanmar diesel is rated at 27 hp. The ZTR lawn mower is rated at 22 hp. I have a feeling Lizzie more than equals their muscle but...

Ok, got a question on this drawing....you'll note that the radius 16 7/64 has no dimension from the datum plain to the distance from the center-line...also there is no dimension for the start point of 5 51/64 Radius, now if you continue that line it does intersect with the dimension line for the 11 63/64 R line. But without a start point, you're...

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, my 39 y/o son who lost interest at 16 has now awakened to the fun of a T when I took my grandson of 13 out and taught him how to drive the Hack. So the son decides that I’ll never hand crank the 15 in the stable again (true) and we might as well have an estate distribution now…with his promise to keep it always up to...

Looking at the mount on this horn. Why does it have a recessed cup? Is it supposed to sit on a spring?

Hello. I'm moving my Ruckstell shift lever to the left with the kit available from the major vendors. Question. Where do the two collars with set screws go? Thanks, bobt

Were the sidelamp brackets used in 1910 brass plated or painted black? Here's what I found when I bead blasted paint off the brackets on my 1910. Brass plating over steel. Im wondering if I should shine them up or repaint them. Don't know if these are original. I suspect not. For sure the black paint was applied when the car was restored from...

Zenith U-5 missing parts, begins its journey from the scrap pile to the race car...

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Digging through my shed looking for a 26-7 brake pedal I ran across this, looks like steering to me might be transmission, any help appreciated, Bob

Mike Bender rebuilt the engine and rear axle of our 15 runabout when I restored it three years ago. I am currently restoring an 11 touring, but this time I am also doing the engine and axle rebuilding. The block required some brazed repairs, which properly done, result in all the babbitt being melted. So yesterday I spent a long but productive day...

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The Yankee Ingenui'T's located in Townsend, Massachusetts will be celebrating their 40th Birthday with a parade, car show, and birthday cake on June 25, 2022 in Townsend, MA. All are invited to attend and participate, we hope you will join us.

For more information please email us at townsendmodelts@gmail.com (don't forget to check your spam...

Any idea what this tool is ? It has a cutting tool attached, something like a lathe cutting bit. May not be T era.

Hello All,

Have any of you installed the truss accessory for the rear axel that John Stoltz at the Model T Ranch sells?? If so will this fit directly onto a stock 1909 6 rivet rear end??? If not then does anyone sell one that fits directly on a 6 rivet rear end?? Attached is the pic from John's website. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Andrew

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On June 21, 1907, Ford Motor Company entered three cars in a 24 hour race at the Michigan State Fairgrounds. A total of ten cars entered, with the race beginning at 10:00 pm on the longest day of the year (June 21). At this time, Ford Motor Company was the largest automaker in the world, and produced more 4 cylinder, and 6 cylinder cars than any...

I have a '17 touring and often on tour end up offering my back seat to other Model T'ers for one reason or another. Has anyone ever built a removable rear luggage platform or luggage box for a touring of '16-'23 vintage? If so, any info and photos would be appreciated. I'd like to be able to strap some lawn chairs, etc. to it but then take it off...

Does anyone here know if Wagon Works still exist and do they sell Depot Hack plans?
I believe the company was once called Hudson Wagon Works but changed owners and shortened it to Wagon Works.
I have a good friend who wants to build a depot hack and was looking at mine for ideas.
A set of plans would help him considerably.
I checked through some...

How bad is this?
Wood is cracked and deteriorated. Car runs good for 5 seconds then skips and does not recover.
Asking for a friend.....

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The question RUNNING W/O AMMETER? got me thinking.

I realize that the forum is comprised of old and new owners of a Model T Ford. And the purpose of the forum is to share information and experiences. To help answer questions that are the results of observations and operating problems.

The Model T as designed is a basic vehicle. Originally it...

We're getting a whine out of the transmission when depressing the low speed pedal. High speed and reverse do not produce this noise.

Any ideas on what the source of this may be and necessary fix?

Can you repair a bent radius rod by cold bending or should I heat it!

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Hi Everybody!! I need to clean the small plastic windows in my touring car top. Is there a product that works or a technique you've used that works well? Thank you.

The 1921 Roadster Pick-up I have is, as I'm told, build of two cars back in 1963.
The running chassis have given the legal idendity so it is titled as a 1921 Model T, but I recall the original owner/builder that it was a 1919. I think it was because it may be the front half of a 1919 touring that make the body. The bed is made new back in 1963....

Started yesterday Saturday in Rhode Island... Check website for route... www.greatrace.com

I have seen the idea of heat treating tools and parts on the forum, but for small hardware I am trying cold bluing. I scuff each piece then dip them for about thirty seconds and they come out beautifully, but soon after they get coated in rust. Any chemist suggestions on how to combat this? Maybe gun oil?

Our English 1921 tourer was purchased rebuilt, but the assembly of beautifully refurbished bits was 'iffy'. This resulted in many breakdowns and a loss of confidence to do any long runs. The worst problem was starting from cold. Refurbished coils solved this and better settings by me!

NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS.

Millie has been to two local car...

I have looked at the search function and didn't find exactly what I am looking for so I thought I would ask here.

I have had my engine bored to 20 thousands over and I have purchased new aluminum pistons and rings also 20 thousands over.

I have a piston clearance of 2-1/2 to 3 thousands when inserted in the cylinder.

I now need to check ring...

Seems like a about a month ago, someone posted about the increasing price of Model T's on the current market and quoted some high prices. I replied on the post, saying that i had seen some reasonable priced cars in reasonable condition for sale on Facebook Marketplace, here in Texas. Last night, I made a list of a lot of those, currently...

Doing some valve work on my 26 and found these spacers between the top of the spring and the block. I do not believe these are factory and curious on their intended purpose. Thanks!

Along with everything else, (clearly I should have picked a T in better shape) I think the generator is bad and so is the magneto. The other day I turned the lights on and the Amps Gauge dropped as it should, but no amount of revving brought it back to ‘0’. I also tried running the engine on magneto and it quickly died. I thought for sure it ran...

Would it be possible to run a car without an ammeter?
How would you configure the wiring if possible?

The timer discussion reminded me of this, so I thought I'd mention it in case anybody is unaware of it. It hadn't occurred to me until John Regan warned me about it.

High voltage can jump across a small gap anywhere, not just in a spark plug. Keep those plug wires away from low voltage wires, especially the one from the magneto. I believe ¼ is...

Getting along on some of my projects and wanting to start on the part I have been avoiding, the interior. I am trying to figure out what material to use to make the inside panels. It appears to be a non-corrugated card board painted black on the open cars and cloth covered on the closed cars. I have been nosing around trying to find something...

Got my E-mail this morning that I got accepted to the OCF. So looking forward to attending! I don't get to go often, only one before, in 2018. Long trek from Colorado.

Hope to meet some of you guys that can attend more often. Look for a '22 Center Door with Colorado Plates. See you there!

Rich

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So I have two spare tire carriers one seems to fit my 21 model T wheel the other is a bit larger. Any Idea what car? Seems to be made a bit different as well (extra bracing in the center).

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Hello y'all, I have a simple but difficult question. I recently got my hands on a semi rolling chassis with the plan to do a full build series on youtube and of course I'll post updates here to get y'alls tips and tricks. But I have come to a dilema, what do I build it to? Do I go low buck period lowerd speedster and have fun on the streets or do...