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Saturday July 16, 2022 from 7:00Am until it’s over. One of the oldest and best swap meets in the west. Tons of Model T, Model A, and pre-war Ford stuff. Open to all makes and models, automotive and hobby related items only. Long Beach City College Veterans Stadium, 5000 Lew Davis St. Long Beach, CA. $5 Admission, Free Parking. Spaces are 20ft wide...

I need to change to safety glass in my 100 year old touring T.
I have taken the frame and glass out of the car and found a fellow to cut the safety glass and replace it.
What advice can forum users give me to get out the old glass and put in the new safety glass?
Should heat be applied or some solvent to loosen the glass? It seems to be solidly...

Waiting for me when i got home, thanks to Calimers wheel shop. Now I would like to stain these black, what have you guys done that finishes well, oil/water based ect.

I am looking @ a pre-stain water based wood conditioner and then applying a water based wood stain Varithane. Any input would be great, thanks in advance.

Today, I got a set of door and window shim sets at Lowes for about $6.00 and they make excellent coil shims.

With them still sealed tight with plastic wrap, I cut the pack in two at the middle with a miter saw.

Then cut each section in two off center, so I had 1 inch and 1 1/2 inch wedges.

Then made the ends slightly smoother on my belt sander,...

Stock Model T's, in short, Ford Races, were a part of the program at some of the larger race meets as a filler before the featured races. These races were just as popular with Ford Owners in the grandstand as the Fronty Fords that ran in the Indianapolis 500 races in the 1920s.

This race was held at the Legion Ascot Park Race Track outside of Los...

I am picking my 1922 up in a couple of days and taking it to the port to be shipped to Alaska. I need to get as free a neutral on the handbrake as possible so the shippers can move it (they will not drive it). The car has Rocky Mountain brakes and the the transmission brake does not really need to work during shipping. I can readjust things when I...

If anyone who read part 1 is interested, the link below has part 2. Frank Kulick was one of Henry Fords first five employees with FMC, and the only one hired by HF himself. Kulick was the face of Ford racing, and along with Henry Ford, probably the best known of all Ford employees between 1904 and 1928.

To read part 2, click on the link:...

I just put white vinegar my radiator to clean it. How long should it be left in?

Is there a forum member who lives near
Topanga, California who would be willing
to give driving lessons and serve as a Mentor
to a new Model T owner ?

FJ

I am wondering if someone can be of help on this

I have a 1922 Canadian Touring. Before I start the upholstery do I need to add the wood trim around the top edge of the seats. It already has the plastic trim installed as per my pics but Im not sure if I need to build or buy the wood rails and attach them. IMG_5100.jpeg IMG_5101.jpeg

I checked...

I'm trying to help an elderly friend on his Model T (1927 Roadster). He has a 12 volt battery installed but he is still running the 6 volt wooden coils and generator. He's using a ballast resistor (white porcelain resistor) that reduces power from 12 volts to 6 volts. We're having trouble with the car running for only a few seconds then dying. I...

Since I’m not too bright on things like this….

Is this a Mag horn or a DC horn? The coil thingy has me thinking it may be AC??

Thanks in advance….

I need to adjust my headlights upward. When using a plumb bob, they are about 1/4 out of adjustment. I know there is some special tool that Ford created to do bend that thick bar, but I don't have one. What have other done to adjust their headlights (up or down - not left/right) Thanks.

Here we go with that firewall again. The drawing shows ⅜ holes for the two bolts and calls for T-7255 body bolts without giving the bolt size. The bolts used when this car was assembled in the seventies are ⁵⁄₁₆ . I'm assuming that the ⁵⁄₁₆ bolts are wrong and they should be ⅜ , but I'd better check and be sure. I've found plenty of incorrect...

I have just purchased a 1926 Model T pickup. It is in need of a new roof. Does anyone have a resource for a wood kit for this vehicle?

Thanks,

Ben Fry
San Benito, TX
956-498-5990

What is the bore spacing for the T engine as well as the Model A. Searched but with no avail. Thanks

I've been calling around for a piece of 14 1/2 round 1/4 thick laminated glass with 1/2 of it having a polished edge for the monocle windshield for the speedster I'm building..... I only found 2 places that would do it, one wanted $325.00 the other $430.00. I know it's a tricky piece to cut, but does anyone know of an economical place to get a...

A friend just bought some farmland that included several buildings full of stuff. I liked the design of this sausage grinder, using 2 steering wheels to make a pulley for the belt to ride in and the gear reduction slowing things down. I figured some pictures to the MTFCA crowd would be appreciated.....

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I am headed down to California to pick up my new 22 pickup and there is a chance that the key is missing. I see that I can get replacement keys, but I don’t know how to do that if I don’t know the number. Is it stamped on the switch somewhere?

This would not be an issue if the freight company in Tacoma did not require the key to ship it to...

Can someone post a picture or two of the gas line routing for a 1926 Roadster? Mine came to me with a stock sediment bowl, but rubber hose to the stock carb. I suppose it's not a dire need, but I'd like to change it to stock.

I'm currently restoring a late 1911 touring car that has a November 1911 engine serial number, which matches the title. The original firewall still has what is likely the original patent plate shown in the picture below. This number is roughly 2000 higher than the engine serial number. Does anyone know what this number signifies?

The body also...

I’m looking for a chart that lists the type of knock a motor is having and the chart will suggest whether the rods bearings need to be adjusted or whether the mains need to be adjusted, or maybe a bent or twisted conn rod. It’s been a while since the chart has been on the forum, I think, and I’m unable to find it through searching.
For instance,...

I want to paint my manifold on my 1916 T gloss black, does any know where you can get gloss black manifold paint?

I have ordered new glass for the doors in my 1927 coupe and have purchased the medal channel that attaches the glass to the window regulator. The portion of the medal channel that will engage the regulator is 8.5 inches long as shown in the attached photo. The same part on my existing channel is 12 inches. Will this be a problem?

I understand the...

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I've enjoyed reading other form member's posts about their projects to rebuild or restore their Model Ts. I didn't do that when I restored our 1915 runabout a few years ago, so I wanted to do better this time around documenting the restoration process of our 1911 touring car.

To make it easier for my family and friends to keep track of the...

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What would a tank like this been used for and is it of the Model T era?
It has one inlet on top and one outlet on bottom rear. 80 inches long.

I was contacted by the Mackinaw Area Historical Society in Northern Michigan seeking old cars and tractors for a big history event on July 30 for the Historic Village in Mackinaw City Michigan. Anyone interested can call Angie Morthland at 812-7nine7-6thousand and coordinate with her. Does not have to be a model T, she is going for late 1800's to...

Looking for a few good Model T folks. :shock:

As the final touches are being put together for the annual MTFCA Homecoming at the Museum,
we could use an extra hand during the Homecoming for an hour or so to help the workers get a break.

It takes a lot of manpower to put this event on for the Club members and public.
We’ve got a full schedule...

In the Canadian province of British Columbia in 1922 they switched from driving on the left to driving on the right.
Curiously While I have seen/found RHD hogsheads in both aluminum and cast iron, I have not seen one with a starter.
Perhaps ford switched to selling LHD cars there in 1919 anyway!

Just painted the body of a 24 touring. tired of the black so I tried something newer image4.jpeg

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TEAM GIANT Model Ts at the 2022 Antique Nationals drag races at Irwindale Raceway, CA.

Drivers:
Gerry Sherman (age 17), Point Loma, California
Stock 1924 Ford Roadster
Jerry King, Hacienda Heights, California
1913 Ford Speedster w/ Sherman Head
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Wayne is having trouble finding anyone that will cut & install early ford windshields for his 12 & 14 T's. Everyone he has been sent to is either out of business or no longer provides the service for flat glass. Does anyone know of someone in the Austin Texas area that will do these.
Thanks.
Craig.

I think I have seen vacuum gauges on Montana 500 dashes in the past. If not has anyone run a vacuum gauge on there model T and know what the vacuum is under acceleration? I know this changes with altitude just looking for ball park figure from hard acceleration to WOT.
Thanks.
Craig.

Screenshot_20220523_102141.png Screenshot_20220523_102222.png I am not familiar with this model year / body style. Is this a TT? Most TTs I have seen don't have pickup boxes, and look heavier than this. Is it a TT body on a car(pickup) chassis?

Got a set of shop rollers. I’m going to attempt to pump them to 30 pounds. Any more than that, and I’ll probably be wearing them as shrapnel

With the 'skipping' or missing out of the way (at least 99%) I am going to replace the manifold gaskets. I'm tired of the trashy exhaust sound! So, the original was gland rings and copper rings, right? I'm not sure yet that my manifold is straight or warped. If I went with the other gasket options, which are best...copper, paper....? Does it...

Olympic 30 x 3.5 beaded edge tyres are legendary for their excellent quality and high mileage. They were last made in the early 1970 s. Olympic Tyre and Rubber Company alerted the old car clubs to the intended wind up and asked those who needed tyres to stock up.

These 5 were one such order. They have been dry and dark stored and are in perfect...

I have a 23 depot Hack and a 26 speedster and I want to put the engine/trans from the speedster into the hack.
I was thinking of removing the engine trans from each and swapping. Only main difference without going into it is the coils on the motor.
Both cars are right hand drive and the 26 speedster looks to have an earlier trans going by the...

I painted the engine & exhaust with Rustoleum 500 degree engine paint waited about a week and started the 1916 T and it burnt the paint off the manifold exhaust and tail pipe. Is that normal or do I have a problem?

Sorry I thought I deleted the first post by accident?????
Craig.

I'm drifting again, but in order to drive this and see my improvements I'll need to get the brakes as good as I can. For some reason the brake pedal won't come back off the floor. It's not 100% on the floor, but close. A time or two I think I heard 'growling' from the transmission as if the brake was actually taking hold. I usually pull the pedal...

Since I have been unable to find a low cowl firewall in steel, is there somewhere I might find a pattern or template to make one out of plywood?

Just want to put a shout out to Hank Lee in South Pittsburg, TN. Me and the wife drove down from Jackson, MO to pick up some parts Hank has been sell'n. We came back with a truck load, and back seat too. Me and the wife had a good afternoon talk'n with Hank, his wife Patty, and Hank's dad Pops. I got to see the Green Gentleman's Speedster that he...

If anyone is awake on the forum, I’ve inevitably run into a couple questions installing the new interior.
On my seat base, do I have the carpet correct or is it upside down? And on the shoulder panels, what all hardware is used to install them?
My car had no proper interior in it prior so I am flying rather blind.

Hi All,

I have just replaced one of the rear axle seals on my 1916 Tourer, and have refitted the wheel. However, despite having it on and off a few times and rechecking the fitment of the keyway, there is about an 1/8 difference as opposed to the other side, and I can see the edge of the brake shoes on the side I have removed.

Obviously I have...

I defer to the profound knowledge of this group. I am attempting to correctly summarise the history of my 1926 Runabout. A few pics at the end of the data. Please review my data summary, and please suggest corrections/additions. Thanks for the help!

1926 Ford Model T Runabout

Built in River Rouge factory, Detroit Michigan in March 1926 SN...

I have a 1921 studebaker and it uses the spring steel rings between the block and the manifolds. I found that some of mine were missing and I wonder if there is a general source that makes these for model T and other cars. Does anyone know where I might find some?

Thanks

Posting for the pictures only.

Anyone except me having difficulty fitting 30 x 3 1/2 tubes and flaps into 30 x 3 tires?

I am in the process of rebuilding my rear axle and I have almost finished. I have barely any endplay that is within specs but now there is binding as opposed to earlier when I had a little more endplay than I like. This is with an original ring and pinion, new seals, and original hyatt bearings. It is pretty tight and hard to turn. Unsure if I...

Hello
I recently brought my 1926 Runabout out of storage to get it started. When I would attempt to engage the starter the car would try to drag forward. So I jacked it up and put stands under the rear axle, reset the air fuel mixture, choke, crank it over twice, turn on the ignition and it fired right up.

However while I had it up in the air, I...

Guys I'm looking at adding a 1930 Willys Knight 66B sedan to keep my T's company but cant get any response from the WOKR forum so was hoping somebody on here might have some experience with them. Its a 6 cylinder sleeve engine done 5,000 miles since new sleeves and pistons etc so is well run in.

1. What sort of mpg could I expect from a quiet 45...

360 cameras create some bizarre effects!

Does the linkage go under or over the lower radiator hose? When I got mine it was routed under. Currently the rod connection at the timer is rubbing against the belt when fully advanced and has been for awhile before I bought it. I’m assuming that I need to bend the rod to lengthen it. I have the tool to check the timing.

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My wife recently inherited a 1926 TT. I, as the make-believe mechanic, am finding this simple machine to be a bit more complex than I thought. The car starts and runs on the battery just fine. However, when switching to magneto it shuts off. I have not yet created the light bulb tester, so don't know about power from the mag. I do have video of it...

I need to replace the bushing at the front of the oil pan that the starting crank goes through. What is the best and easiest way to remove the old bushing? The bushing is probably frozen into the pan.
Thank you in advance, Craig

I have a friend who just received his new Hartford tubes with rubber valve stems. He needs to know if they will fit through the wood felloe of his wheels? I know the ones made in this country ten or more years ago would not. That's really a shame too, because when Firestone and Monkey Ward were making tubes, they would fit.

Has anyone had any experience with the reproduction visor frames? I am having a hard time tracking down an original and an original that isn't all rusted out.

I've had my 24 touring for a couple of months. Heard a little more noise from the crank then I liked so I thought I'd investigate. Henry says there should be a little movement when tapped with a brass hammer, I could get side movement with my hand. Ok, time for Plasti gauge and some shim removal. But looking up the cylinder bores, I see that two...

The hood on my '27 T tends to ride forward until it's too close to the radiator shell. I tried putting a short piece of hood lacing in the front hinge rod clip on the radiator shell. That helped a little, but after a few tens of miles of driving, the hood would creep forward on the hinge rod and again be too close to the shell. I got tired of...

I spent the day helping with an event at the International Monster Truck Museum. A car show/ truck show. A couple of us were in charge of the moonshine race. A timed race picking up jugs from strategic places on the monster truck track. It was open to anything. Of course my T, a 25 DB, a 28 DB, and many 4x4 trucks. 20220521_092911.jpg...

When I cleaned and painted the frame of my 1916 Touring I removed the gas tank so I could paint that part of the frame and then painted the gas tank. When I put the gas tank back on I could not start the T. I figured out that I was not getting fuel. I must have stirred up the sediment in the gas tank. So I drained all the gas and got a lot of...

Has anyone done this and what is required? What are the benefits?
Keith Billet, PA

Did I get your attention? :lol:
I have no connection with them but thought it was fun to see.
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They offer a Runabout too.
Rich
P S a Speedster too:

Is this the correct differential case I need for my 1927 Touring

For many decades , Larry and Bonnie Becker supplied model T enthusiasts with alternators for the model Ts and other old auto electrical parts. Perhaps you remember , Bonnie never went to a swap meet without her Pet Pink Pig, made from model t parts. She has gone to her reward, joining Larry in that big ford dealership in the sky!

I hear there’s plenty but there stuck on a ship. Has anyone ran Olympics before? How did they do?

I am ready to start the body work on my 1916 Touring, there is a lot of surface rust on the inside and out. I would like to remove this support for the back seat so I can get at the rust better. Does it come out? Know of any videos?

Since joining mtfca, I have seen many questions regarding wood around the interior windows of the 1926-‘27 coupe. In all that time I never responded to the question because, in the 52 years since I last saw under the upholstery, I forgot whether I had wood or not even though I do not recall ever installing wood in the interior of my 1926 coupe....

I have had my Model T for four years and driven it, maybe, 100 miles. It is still a work in progress. I heard a noise today that I needed to ask about. I should mention that I lost much of my hearing a few years before getting the Model T. High frequencies elude me. The noise may have always been there.

I was in my barn tuning the newly cleaned...

I have a Stewart & Clark rim wind eight day clock on my 1910 that stopped running a few years ago. Is there anyone I can trust to service/ repair it?
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Currently disassembling the Bosch DU4 magneto and came up with some questions.

The instructions all over the internet don’t include this info it seems; but when reassembling, how do you align the gears? I notice there’s an A and C which I assume is clockwise and anti clockwise, and there’s an A and C on the interrupter housing. I’m guessing when...

Can anyone tell me where the trailer parking area for homecoming is ??

Yesterday we pulled the rear end from my 1916 coupelet that I bought one year ago. The car was restored in the 1970s or 1980s and I wanted to check to see if the thrust washers were babbit or bronze. It turns out they were bronze, the outer grease seals were the modern neoprene type, and it looked as if all was well with the rearend. I will be...

I wonder if Henry used spur straps to hold down touring tops back in the day? Both of the straps on my ‘24 were rotten when I got it, and broke on the first pull. I made some straps out of an old belt of mine, but the leather was too thick. After a fair amount of looking online I found these 19-inch Weaver English spur straps that are a perfect...

Is anyone interested in organizing a model t tour in upstate new York ? We have lots of back roads and beautiful scenery, and ice cream!!

Got a call from Snyders this morning. They told me the carb I had sent them as a core for an NH, while looks like an NH, was actually a Wizard Improved Carburetor. Sent me 2 pages to my phone of documentation for me to look at which I’ll include here.

He said that the wizard was a straight through bore design and even had a small heating element...

Today was the first time putting the top up on the 26 Touring.
I was able to get the top up but it doesn’t look right to me.
The side brackets are hanging down below the bottom edge of the fabric. Plus the edges of the fabric seem to be loose?
I’m hopping the attached pictures will explain better .

Dave

just had a valve job done by a well respected mechanic on my 1917 engine. Crank is in car and complete valve train but I have not yet installed the pistons. When engine is turned over valve train is making a clicking sound. Mechanic suggests running engine and maybe it will go away. That does not appeal to me. Any suggestions appreciated. All new...

Getting into rebuilding the rear axle on my 1927 Touring, took the drive shaft apart and there is a modern bearing in the spool, not sure what the part is called, and no roller bearing, whats going on there.
I need new everything, drive shaft, roller bearing, spool, pinon gear, the only thing that looks good is the thrust bearing, what is a good...

I am making arrangements to get my 22 pickup shipped up to Alaska. I need to confirm the drop off tomorrow. But today the shipper told me that the height limit for a vehicle to be shipped in an enclosed container is 6 feet. The measurements I see on line say that the T is 73.2 in tall so based on that, I can fold down the top and windshield and It...

I saw this on tbay, trying to sell whole lot, but maybe they want to sell cars separately, but there’s two 1910 projects for sale. Who knows it might be worth following up on if you are near Mississippi.

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Does anyone use Seafoam in their T or TT? We use it in our 1925 Touring and 1923 TT Firetruck. What do you all think of Seafoam for a T? We use it on each tank.

At the Boone County Fairgrounds Route 76 in Belvidere Illinois
May 21st starting at 6 am Gate 3 entrance
Vendor spaces availible at the gate
Hosted by Rockford Model T club
littlehershey1@gmail.com for more info

I have a good sized collection of original Ford T literature, and have heard for many years, the Ford actually had a listing of Ruckstell parts in his late parts book. I finally saw an example of one of these on the Ford fix website. It is a fake to be sure, probably botched together by Polyprints back in the sixties. They even misspelled AXLE!...

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Bit of white metal I guess.

Still running....

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I am painting my 1912 commercial roadster dark blue with black fenders. Were the open door sill moldings painted blue or black? What about the hood former, the hood shelves and rear sear riser molding that curves up from the floorboard to the top of the platform the rear seat sits on. The car won't be pin striped.

Calmly waiting for help?
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Is anyone in this group in Oregon? If so, my father-in-law purchased a 1919 Model T Touring from the wife of the late Harold Berentson. Harold was a member of the Historical Automobile Club Of Oregon... Just wondering if anyone in the group knew Harold.