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Post by A Whiteman » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:46 pm

Many of us like all sorts of things 'old and mechanical'. So here is a chance to share with us your old tractors,
Cheers
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1939 Farmall F14
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1936 JD AR
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1954 David Brown Cropmaster
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1946 Farmall M
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Post by HPetrino » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:27 pm

It was never mine, but I grew up with it. This is my maternal grandfather on his Caterpillar Two Ton. This particular tractor was a Cat, not the earlier Holt. Holt made the "Holt Caterpillar Two Ton" from about 1919 until 1925. In 1925 Holt and Best merged to create Caterpillar. This tractor was produced sometime during or after 1925 and before production of the Two Ton was discontinued in 1929. This photos date to about 1957.


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Post by Lgitts » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:19 pm

Here's some of mine;

1901 Russell 6hp steamer and 1928 Allis Chalmers 20-35
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1937 John Deere AOS. In the background, there's a 1939 Allis Chalmers B (on full steel),a 1920 Titan [IHC] 10-20 Kerosene tractor, a 1926 John Deere spoker D, and a 1929 John Deere General Purpose.
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Post by Duey_C » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 am

Heck, I'd like to see the 50's Jubilee that nearly took one our friend's leg off.
Holy cats! A Russell 6? What a little sweety! Good friends have a Russell 30-90 and that's a real sweetheart too!
That AOS JD? Cool.
Ooh la la. A Two Ton Cat! It's a tractor after all. Cool. :)
Oh man, this world is too small. An M?
An H's seat frame once saved my life. I love the H and M.
My pitiful offering at this time. He's in no state to be photographed quite yet.
Lucky. Early 1929 #2 PRODUCTION is coming along and nearing a new life. :)
I'd potty my pants if I told about how exited I get about machinery of all sorts.
Thanks Adrian.
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Post by tdump » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:22 pm

mine are not so big! :D
Some not as old! But some are kinda scarce.here is a few

First 1 is a John Deere Electric model 90.36 volt.1975 I think.
Second 1 is a T70B Panzer 1960 Best I can tell,has 1 of the first Aluminum block Horizonal engines that were updated and the parts made NA shortly theraftor.Hard to find stuff for the engine.Took me about 10 years off and on to find everything to make it correct.
The tractor is very awkward to operate,only 2 speeds, fast and to fast to do much.And that is a Plymouth rearaxle narrowed and 1 brake pad removed.They used this design up to 1980 for rear axles!
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The 2 walking tractors are a Choremaster and a Page.The Page is 1948 and the Choremaster is about 1950?
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Post by JohnM » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:49 pm

This is a ford 601 I believe about 1957. It has been one of the most reliable and trouble free machines I have had.
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Post by Duey_C » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:47 am

This OK Adrian?
Keep 'em coming gentlemen. We are T yet we tractor! Neck deep or worse here. Bloop, bloop, bloop. (over the head)

My Baby Twin-Cam Boys. 1928 17-28's. #26038 Grey on the right and #26068 Rusty on the left. Yep! Blessed to have 30 serials apart.
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Post by A Whiteman » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:07 am

Sounds like both sold locally by the same dealer maybe?

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Post by Duey_C » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:56 am

I wish Adrian! :)
Grey 038 likely came up the Soo Line rails on a flat car, got rolled or driven off the loading dock in Kensington and lived/worked out side of town until I got him. He's about 20 clicks away from there now. Nice tractor. Tossed a rod once too. Life got in the way with him but working on it. Wish I'd never painted him.
Rusty 068 went to Nebraska. Then back up to northern Minnesota in modern times, out to South Dakota, back to northern Minnesota again and now to central Minnesota. My Twin City dealer's old girlfriend's tractor so he was ready to part with it.
They're 2 hours from where they were built in Minneapolis (city of water if my translation serves).

465. Another Twin City 21-32 from the seat. #5297 off the line. No major collector but I have 9 of my favorite brand here. :)
Not running yet. :)
1 JTU
1 early KT. 283 engine.
2 later MTA's. 283 engine in wide row crop. These became the U MM.
2 17-28's. 340 Twin Cam, 16 valve engines,
3 21-32's. 381 8 valve engines until larger bores, then 403's. My money pit #2 is a 413 now.
Waiting for the right time for #10. A 641 Twin Cam, 16 valve Monster. Top of the rad looks me in the eye and I'm 6-2.
And the bloody Farmall's are growing... That F-14 (silly things), F-20 and an F-30 (283 also). Oof.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:30 pm

1947 Case Model D plowing with a 17” two bottom IH “tumblebug”. Gone but not forgotten!
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Post by Billy Vrana » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:25 pm

'42 John Deere H cultivating soybeans today
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Post by A Whiteman » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:00 pm

OOh, I can hear the pop pop now all the way down under...


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Post by Lgitts » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:10 pm

Is that a 20-40 G, or 16-30 H? Very nice. I like those heavy weight Oil Pulls.


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Post by Junk poor » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:34 pm

It’s a 1920 16-30.


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Post by Dallas Landers » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:54 pm

Not as old as the T but a good old tractor. Restored about 25 years ago. The birds like it in the old corn crib also. I have the original lights but I can see at night with these.
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Post by Fordwright » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:19 pm

Personal gripe: I think the category of "antique" is too broad. I go to vintage tractor meets to see Hart-Parrs and Rumely Oil-pulls, but their sounds are often drowned out by the 50-year old diesel tractors roaring around the grounds, showing off. I have nothing against the more modern tractors, but I think they should have their own meets.


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Post by fschrope » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:15 pm

It's hard to believe that the 4020 John Deeres are 50+ years old.............and my old A is 71. Wow, I'm feeling old.


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Post by Dennis Prince » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:29 pm

My old tractors are a 29 Farmall regular that has been put on rubber.
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46 Case VAO orchard model with the faring removed.
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52 John Deere A
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Post by Kaiser » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:30 am

This old tractor thread reminded me of this :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HF0s-pXOHck
gave me a good chuckle, hope you tractor afficionados appreciate !
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Post by HPetrino » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:35 am

Leo,
I have a little grandson who is 6 1/2 now. When he was about 3 he would watch that movie ("Cars") as many times a day as his parents would allow. He has all the toys and loves McQueen! Makes me smile.

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Post by Duey_C » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:39 pm

Leo, that's still one of the funniest scenes in that movie! Owen and Larry were great! And the sound affects!
The oil running down and then... :lol:
What a wonderful thread!
Ooh, I see an old GM pickup in the single front-wheeled A pic Dennis! Care to show it?
Still have a G down in the woods with a bad pto and a jug kit..
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Post by Dennis Prince » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Duey, I think it might have looked better in the first picture, it is a 67 with 250,000 miles on it and all stock, 6 cyl, 4spd, 4x4 manual steering, a real plain jane, it hasn't even gotten a radio (yet).
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Post by Dallas Landers » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:03 pm

Now thats a real truck ! No power, no leather or heated seats, 2 doors, 8ft bed and no carpet. Wish they still made a real truck.

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Post by Duey_C » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:59 pm

Gorgeous pickup Dennis!
The 69 Heavy-Half posi 2wd here is so rotted out. It has Consumption. What they used to call cancer as it consumed.
Heavy-Half's carry some heavier GMC parts on the drive shaft and a four bolt main 350. We used parts off my 68... even the dash with windshield wiper switch where it's supposed to be...
never mind. ;)
Whoa. A 4x4 with a six...
It's a blessing to see old pickups that are salt free.
Thanks!
Staring/working with the butt-end of serial 2 all the while this evening. That poor platform mount...
Edit: Wait a second. Doesn't affect that worn down-cobbled up draw bar mount.
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Post by HPetrino » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:56 pm

Years ago I had a '68 Ford F-250 that Dennis's truck reminds me of. It had a very similar lumber rack too. That old truck was indestructible and unstoppable. It had a 390 cu. in. V-8 with a 4 speed granny manual transmission, a Posi traction rear end, AM radio and a heater. The darn thing would get 10 mpg gong uphill with a full load or downhill empty. It didn't seem to matter. It would pass anything but a gas station.

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Post by Michael Peternell » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:34 pm

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Part of our collection.


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Post by Kevin Pharis » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:40 am

Hey there Michael, did that ‘ol reed venturi Tillotson downdraft ever work out for your dozer?? Or maybe just good for a few parts? Hope it went to good use...


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Post by Nathan Pederson » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:34 pm

Michael, Impressive group!!! Albany Pioneer Days is really something to look forward to.


My Grandpa's 27 D and sawmill.
This year I did some sawing on the 4th.
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Post by Lgitts » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:18 pm

Wow, that line up is what tractor collector's dreams are made of. I think I can identify most of them.

Here goes, from front to rear;

30-60 Rumely Oilpull E
30-60 Rumely Oilpull E
30-60 Hart Parr
45 Mogul
30-60 Aultman & Taylor
30-60 Aultman & Taylor
Twin City 40
40-80 Avery
30-50 Flour City
35-70 Minneapolis
45 Pioneer (not sure, hard to see) other guess would be a Gas Pull

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Post by A Whiteman » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:33 pm

I was just looking at my Model D 1930 sales brochure. Sadly I am missing the middle pages but here are a few below:
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Post by A Whiteman » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:40 pm

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Post by Pep C Strebeck » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:52 pm

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1952 Farmall Cub

Not that old, nor that big but it has always done what I have asked of it.

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This was during the throwout bearing replacement;
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Post by Duey_C » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:51 am

Adrian, I think Pep's Cub will qualify eh? Pep, that's even smaller than a louse! Friend's used to call their A The Louse.
Adrian, neat brochure!
Les, you're pretty close. I used to parade on the 35-70's steering wheel until I got drafted to babble on the microphone.
Been on most of those footplates.
Nathan, I really need to pester you someday. You're right, it is a good show. Great pic!
This is what Nathan and I have to deal with up here. Water almost everywhere. Beautiful? Yes.
Michael, glad you showed this! Some highlights for the brain: We know that Rumely's say duptup, duptup, duptup, duptup...
The Hart-Parr says Phanumph-phanumph, sha-weeweewee, phanumph-phanumph, sha-weeweewee, phanump, FOOM!
Phanump-phanumph...
My fingers are tired now... ;)
Heck, I was happy to turn 2 around with the skid loader per Maw's request tonight...
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Post by Richard G » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:20 am

HERE IS MY BEST FRIEND, THIS IS A 1955 MASSY HARRIS 50, WILLING AND ABLE ANY TIME TWENTY BELOW OR 100 DEG ITS WILLING , IT HAS THE HI LOW TRANSMISSION, ITS WORKED ON MY FARM MANY YEARS ,NO REAL PROBLEMS.
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Post by Michael Peternell » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:47 pm

Kevin Pharis wrote:
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Hey there Michael, did that ‘ol reed venturi Tillotson downdraft ever work out for your dozer?? Or maybe just good for a few parts? Hope it went to good use...
going to have time this year to try it. We cancelled the show a couple weeks ago! This covid thing is maddening. I do so appreciate you helping me out! A couple of friends also were helped for a cover pattern.

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Post by Michael Peternell » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:54 pm

Nathan Pederson wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:34 pm
Michael, Impressive group!!! Albany Pioneer Days is really something to look forward to.


My Grandpa's 27 D and sawmill.
This year I did some sawing on the 4th.
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Very nice! As used, displayed is , is the best!

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Post by Michael Peternell » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:06 pm

Just saying. Any of the gentleman that are members are more than welcome to pick one to drive. Just have to show up the second weekend after labor day.. if you really want to come and play , there is a definite a adopt a play option!


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Post by R Rathert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:51 am

Hey Mike bet John won't let the Pioneer get adopted! Rudy

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Post by Michael Peternell » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:32 am

You're right Rudy! Don't think dad would let that one be adopted just yet!


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Post by R Rathert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:04 pm

Hey Mike maybe I should trade him my case for the pioneer for a day! Rudy

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Post by Michael Peternell » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:23 pm

I know I can swing that! Dad would love it!

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Post by Michael Peternell » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:33 pm

Lgitts wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:18 pm
Wow, that line up is what tractor collector's dreams are made of. I think I can identify most of them.

Here goes, from front to rear;

30-60 Rumely Oilpull E
30-60 Rumely Oilpull E
30-60 Hart Parr
45 Mogul
30-60 Aultman & Taylor
30-60 Aultman & Taylor
Twin City 40
40-80 Avery
30-50 Flour City
35-70 Minneapolis
45 Pioneer (not sure, hard to see) other guess would be a Gas Pull
Almost nailed it. B . . . 25-50 . . . 35-70 , Pioneer

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Post by Michael Peternell » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:46 pm

I know I can swing that! Dad would love it!

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Post by A Whiteman » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:11 pm

Well, once this virus is resolved (when/if) a trip to the US will be on the cards (my daughter is engaged to a Texas based chap). I would love to take up the offer to drive those tractors, even just up the track and back. So what show and where do I have to plan to come to? (Even though it may be "years" away I would like to pencil that it in :-)

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Post by Duey_C » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:04 am

That'd be Albany Pioneer Days in central Minnesota Adrian! :-) This particular year may be that once in a lifetime tho.
Just pretend you're a member...
I'd like to be on the levers of the...
But other than the proper parades during regular years, the guys also have early evening parades about the grounds, for testing of course and at the very least you should ask to ride on the foot plates when you get here! You must stop in the Corliss Building and ask where Duey is...
Some years ago we had a real Irishman drive a tractor thru the parade and I tried to make the most out it!
We also had Hank. Santa in the summertime! Where's Santa when not at the North Pole? Right here at Albany Pioneer Days! Was this guy's babble, off the cuff and on the mic.
A New Zealander? Oh, we'd try to make sure you know you were here...
I'd love to fill you full of Hamm's beer to set your mood... When sawmill Ed was 92 or 93, He'd stop by, I'd grab him a stool and say,
Hey Ed, ya want a COLD Hamm's? He'd set down and chat (BS) with us guys.
If ya don't drink, no problem! We'll get you some of Eric's coffee to perk you right up...
One time those XXXXXXXX's put cedar shavings in the coffee pot. Not a good cup. Rascals.

I'll never show this pic over in a tractor world.
Poor ol' 2 looks the worst for wear right now. He should, he's got about a million hard-earned miles pulling plows under his belt.
Super-odd Farmall F-30 wheel, meant for duals on this side for the moment, Steering out, transmission cover unbolted again, two empty railroad pails of fire snake (from a nephew) full of rear end "oil" plus I need to go digging in the tranny for errant bits broken off during his life so they do not come UP into the gears during use. It's 2. He deserves it.
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Post by Duey_C » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:48 am

Not an old tractor per say but very closely related. Hope it's OK.
Mid/late 30's Twin City 21-32 Clockwise Power Unit engine just came in tonight.
GEB engine (different #'s from the GE type engines in the tractors too) , GEU complete power unit.
NOT General Electric, just a progression in Twin City (Minneapolis, MN) part numbers.
Very glad to have Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company's (still holding the trusted Twin City name), engine here.
They also built counter-clockwise engines...
:) Carry on.
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Post by Duey_C » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:44 am

Thanks Michael. Very happy to have this power unit injected into this puzzle. :)
Of course it doesn't run. Stuck. Valves are all loose tho.
Rod, nice 8N. And a working tractor! :)
I think I can dare post this... Last piece in my very centric puzzle. "Eccentric" if you're like me. ;)
Early 20-35 Twin City (notice my twisted theme yet?). Not home yet but paid for.
5-1/2 x 6-3/4, twin cam, 16 valve, 641 cu in engine in an 8100 pound tractor running at 900-1000 rpm's.
A similar tractor, purportedly ten units newer (we'll see) was able to pull more than half its own weight in the October 1920 Nebraska tests (test 067). Gotta study the test report again.
46.88 hp maximum load test on the belt.
A brute. He doesn't look me in the eye, he looks above me and I'm 6-2. :twisted:
And aluminium pan and valve covers. Drool...
He ain't perfect but he's ours.
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Post by A Whiteman » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:07 am

Nice one Duane. My JD is a bit smaller. Just picking him up now.
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Post by Duey_C » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:36 pm

That's your AR! Gawgeous! Running OK?
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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:46 am

I really enjoy looking at all the old tractors! Wish I had one to share pictures of.
When I was really little, we used to spend part of the summer at my grandparent's ranch in Modesto during the peach harvest. I was too young to be allowed to do much work, although I often accompanied my dad or grandpa while they worked. I "helped". I loved the tractors and so many other things around the ranch. By the time I was four, I was sitting on a lap, working the hand throttle (probably part of why I feel so at home in a model T!), and steering the tractors. By the time I was five, I was shifting the gears in the transmission, dad or grandpa had to press the clutch. When I was six, I showed them I could press the clutch, and do the whole shift myself. Dad or grandpa would stand behind me, and watch me closely for awhile. I did so well, that by the end of that harvest, I was driving some of the tractors solo, and even pulling trailers out of the orchards in the evening after the migrant workers had stopped for the night.
We mostly used the three 8/9 Ns he had, but my favorite tractor was the big old McCormick. I sure wish I knew which series it was? I often asked, but they usually just said it was old and they didn't even know what year it was (one time, they told me they thought it was a 1938). Usually only dad or grandpa drove the McCormick, because they had to rebuilt it a couple times after hired help flipped it. The McCormick had braking on two levers, each one working one of the rear wheels. If not used carefully, it was easy to flip the thing.
I drove it quite a few times, with dad or grandpa riding along. I really liked that one. I also drove the Clark forklift a fair amount, sometimes by myself, often with my "accompaniment". I never had a problem with rear steering, then or now. I was also working the levers to lift and load pallets loaded with peaches. All that at the age of six. A few years later, and grandpa semi-retired. The ranches and tractors were sold. I sure wanted that McCormick.

I keep looking at McCormick pictures. I have seen hundreds. But never seen one quite like the one I grew up with. I am sure it was altered some over the years, how much I do not know. The seat had been removed (it sat in a corner of one of the tractor barns!), there was a small rear deck big enough for one adult and a child to stand and drive the thing. It had typical rubber tractor tires front and rear (don't know if it was that way new or not?). I sure loved to drive that beast.

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Post by Michael Peternell » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:34 pm

Duey_C wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:44 am
Thanks Michael. Very happy to have this power unit injected into this puzzle. :)
Of course it doesn't run. Stuck. Valves are all loose tho.
Rod, nice 8N. And a working tractor! :)
I think I can dare post this... Last piece in my very centric puzzle. "Eccentric" if you're like me. ;)
Early 20-35 Twin City (notice my twisted theme yet?). Not home yet but paid for.
5-1/2 x 6-3/4, twin cam, 16 valve, 641 cu in engine in an 8100 pound tractor running at 900-1000 rpm's.
A similar tractor, purportedly ten units newer (we'll see) was able to pull more than half its own weight in the October 1920 Nebraska tests (test 067). Gotta study the test report again.
46.88 hp maximum load test on the belt.
A brute. He doesn't look me in the eye, he looks above me and I'm 6-2. :twisted:
And aluminium pan and valve covers. Drool...
He ain't perfect but he's ours.
That's a beauty! I don't think TC ever came to the table with small onions!

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Post by Duey_C » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:45 am

Wayne, that was fantasticl! Thank you! I appreciate it!
An F series I'd bet.
An F-12/14 is still naughtier than an 8 or 9 perhaps. Hahaha! NOT.
Maybe an F-20 or 30... :)
As time passes, we sure have stories to tell don't we!
You learned quickly. I was slower then but look out now! Ya right...
So glad the site allows these gross diversions! I tell/show things not for the tractor world.

Michael, "Built to do the work, not to meet a price." was MS&M's motto way back for the Twin City tractors.
Minneapolis Steel and Machinery.
Perhaps as early as 1911. Not certain on the origin. Repeated on January 1st, 1929 for the introduction of the 21-32.
Here in Minnesota, we were expensive yet very tough!
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Post by Duey_C » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:33 am

Doggone it, are the very few of us the only??? Perhaps there are more but don't come down here much. ;)
A short utub clip of #26038, a 1928 17-28 Twin City brought back to life with help from the F-14.
Some broken-down ol' man hand-cranked him back to life!
Ya, I twisted his tail/windmilled him to get him thru his old troubles. Guess I had the ZR-4 magneto timed OK.
I'm doing OK! I can still walk! Check this dork for more clips of this adventure. It really was fun. In a twisted way. :)
duron700r or look for Duey-C on smokstak only IF ya wish.
I couldn't care less about subscriptions or numbers of views. Just trying to spread the simple joy of old engines running.
And the babble of a Twin City, twin cam, 16 valve, 340 cube 4 cylinder engine in a tractor.
And it made me 20 some years happy. That sweet boy has been patiently waiting for a long time.
He lives!
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Ohh wee! No "in your face" video! Ya gotta click on it to see it! I like that!
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Post by A Whiteman » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:09 pm

Nice! The F14 has a distinctive sound too.

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Post by Duey_C » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:50 pm

It's funny Adrian, a camera cannot capture what our eyes and brain see but that F-14 sure does sound great in the videos...
Little snot.
Better than when I hear it.
Huh? Whajja say?
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Post by A Whiteman » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:35 am

Mine had a 'ring' to it in a nicely annoying pitch. It was the pulley drum 'singing' when the tractor ran.
It was soon removed (and kept safe so not lost) and problem went away. I wonder if this explains why so often the pulleys are missing from tractors!

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Post by Duey_C » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:03 am

Ya, we look at that pulley too. It doesn't ring but it's omnipresent.
The bigger F's have a lever, Twin City's can leave the clutch dis-engaged but this little snot is always...
Adrian, would you give an explanation of your technique, starting your little F? Including throttle position.
The governor on this engine needs help and that's obvious but it's doing what I need right now and I'm busy with other things.
I should pull the throttle all the way, two chokes and let her go but I flubbed it again today and just flooded the crap out of it.
Thoughts?
I did post a couple short (yet very important to me) videos tonight of that 17-28 Twin City.
That little snot will be put back to work, helping another F-series wake up, possibly tomorrow!
The 20 is in the queue and almost ready to go. :)
Actually kind of nice down here in the basement of the MTFCA. More personal... :)
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Post by Duey_C » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:21 am

The F-20 was all set today for oiling testing:
Son worked hard on it on Sunday! I was the gopher.
Got bearing clearances set, all rod caps facing the right way :roll: and re-adjusted the oil pan to suit the "new" oil pump.
He even admitted he was shot from HIS down and under the engine and up again.
Oil peeing into the rod troughs even at cranking speed. :) We were happy.
Laid the belt out, got the pickup set to move into place (to adjust and hold belt tension) and put some gas in the 14.
The little BXXXH merely said "Pluhh" a couple of times. I cranked and windmilled her to a great cardio.
She pulled my stuffing out and gave back nothing. She gets this way. Bxxxh.
Tomorrow, we'll see how her little (huge) attitude is.
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Post by A Whiteman » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:57 am

Sounds like you are having fun there Duey!
I just sold the F-14 - its off to a new owner in the morning. Had to make room for the JD that arrived the other weeK:
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Post by D Stroud » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:08 am

No pictures, but in a past life I worked in a small welding/machine shop in the mid '70's in our small town. We had an F20 Farmall with an A Frame boom over the front with a winch made from a TT Ruckstell, it worked very well. That old F20 would start every time with a couple of cranks with the choke pulled, and then one crank with it open, made no difference if it was 70 Degrees or 10 Degrees, it never failed. Dave
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Post by Fordwright » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:16 pm

John Deere built indestructible tractors at one time. The 2-cylinder Model D was built from 1923-1953, and a lot of them are still working today. That's what built their reputation and why they are one of the few remaining agricultural equipment manufacturers from the original hundreds.
But they have forgotten their roots, now they built disposable tractors with disposable parts. The engineers now kow-tow to the MBAs who demand shorter and shorter lifespans on the parts that they uniquely supply. Some say planned obsolescence is a myth because you can never prove it. Of course not; that's the whole idea.

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Post by Duey_C » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:13 am

Greg, I believe that. I still have a 49 G down in the woods with the jug kit waiting for me patiently. A powerhouse that'll outlast us all.
With a blown out PTO...
Hah! That G would be way easier to use than my current fair also. ;)
Dave that simply makes sense. A clean carb and a hot mag = vroom.
Adrian, glad to see you made room for the AR! See ya later F! Damn good tractors for what they are.
IH didn't really hit the mark for usability until the H and M in my opinion.

Seems like the old adage that said "Check the points" is still true. :roll:
TIGHT quarters on a 12/14 but got them pulled out, Cratex VF diamond polished so I could see myself (ack!) and back in/set half axxed.
I had that poor little snot flooded so bad.
Much more cranking. windmilling, cranking, coughing (her) and then lets get to work after warming. I panted. Good cardio again.
If I think about it, she's been giving little signs that something wasn't quite right. ie: The hard starting yet she ran so pretty once going...
Eh hem, even these hard IH cranks have flat spots son found while checking clearances by feel of course on the 20. :cool:
Seems as if the oil control rings are just fine too. I wished for more oil spitting out the plug holes on me like the Twin City 17-28 but no...
Yet the time in the belt warmed the cylinders on the 20.
I call the pic "A conglomeration of shxx". Belt and chains, almost chastity-like but she needs holding down/help to do her work.
The belt is getting a little better too.
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Post by Duey_C » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:13 am

F-20:
The belt is put away, the 14 is back in her spot, the pickup is back in his spot and I need to learn more about the Zenith carb.
The F-14 actually started another engine! The little snot could handle this one.
Turns out that worn out 220 engine is easily hand cranked. Three compressions/chokes and vroom!
Even with a Zenith that ain’t right.
All I had spitting out at me with the plugs out earlier, in the belt were old soybeans! Whack!
When that 20 came to life with just a touch of choke, it was running a trifle faster than the 14 and that old belt went wild, flopping around like that windy bridge from the 40‘s/50‘s! My brother knew which bridge.
We did have a good breeze here in the woods. Maybe a French Twist to this ol’ belt if not crossed...
I hollered “The lever.” (the pulley lever) then I hollered louder “The lever!!” To disengage the pulley, after I shut the 14 down.
We had a good laugh just after as that old 20 spit and sputtered along. Ever faithful ol’ bugger.
I didn’t explain a game-plan beforehand about that goofy belt I actually thought was shaping up...
It isn’t. It’s goofy. Nice looking red stripe belt.
Son hand-cranked it readily several times on Sunday after 1st life and cooling down. Good day.
Wonder IF it’ll hold water at all.
The F-14, like the H John Deere has a “backwards” running belt pulley so ya can’t cross the belt for some/most tractors while testing oiling etc...
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F-30
Prep for winter and maybe get time to roll him over with the belt.
Need to drain oil, pull the pan, check the screen and pressure assy on the oil pump.
No oil squirting into the wet troughs while hand cranking.

Son was here and we worked on this ‘36 F-30‘s 283 engine some too.
The north facing original decals are are pretty dang nice! Nice original/ish tractor.
A 36 but red.
Son had sourced a timing rod from Rusty Acres and that was cleaned, painted and ready to install.
A couple drops of 3-IN-ONE oil in a couple places on the mag and points cover and that was cake.
He did a nice job of adjusting the rod. I tested it, found it to be perfect and we grinned.
Played with the brake pedals he found also, noting the work we need to do to the ratchet assembly/quadrant.
I was mostly gopher but did my part setting valve clearances a bit loose if there’s crud on the seats/faces.
A couple valves were a bit sticky/stuck and got them sorted in the process thankfully.
The 30 has a bit of wind still in the cylinders.

The valve cover was sitting far above the gasket surface and we needed to know why.
OK, the mis-matched valve springs ALL have washers under them BUT what we found baffling/interesting was the fact that the four rocker towers had regular 1/2“ washers underneath them all thus holding the cover too high. Reset the towers and re-adjusted the valves.
He cleaned a small mouse-mess from under the valve cover. Me: Tools and charged air tank.
1 Where do we get a oil fill cap for the valve cover?
2 Why the heck would IH put an oil fill on the valve cover anyway? There’s one in the usual place... Duh. To oil the valve felts.
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My brothers John Deere crawler and my F2 on the farm
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Post by Duey_C » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:24 am

Well, by gum!
Thanks Mark!
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