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Model T tractor conversion information

Post by haptruck » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:21 pm

I just acquired a 1927 Pull Ford tractor conversion. I am looking for some assembly drawings or photos that show how it should be put together. This one does not have a rear spring -- some internet photos show one -- ads talk about switching form tractor during the week to farm and car on week end to go to town, needs a rear spring. The I beam is attached to the Ford frame by only two 3/8 bolts, that is not enough to pull a plow. I would like some assembly instructions or drawings -- any one have some?
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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by Billy Vrana » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:21 pm

Not a Pullford but it might help. Ads i found for my Fond du lac tractor attachment,
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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:53 pm

You may have seen this. Have you thought about contacting the Henry Ford? They have a "Contact us about this" button.
https://www.thehenryford.org/collection ... ct/188731/
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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by haptruck » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:07 am

Thank you Rich for the information -- thehenryford collection does have some good information on the Pull Ford tractor.
Herb


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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by TractorGlenn » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:01 pm

Hi Herb Its a little hard to see your wheel but they look like 36". Pullford used these wheels from late 1916 thru 1929 though the bulk of their sales were pre-1920. In 1930 Pullford came out with the "New Pullford" redesigned with 32.5" wheels and of smaller bull gears. If your wheels are 36" your tractor probably had a rear spring. The Pullford was well designed for farm work. If your attachment is only mounted to the Model T with a couple of bolts you might be missing some parts. If you want to post some photos of the attachment itself I'll try to help. Glenn


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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by TractorGlenn » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:04 pm

The Pullford at the Henry Ford is a "New Pullford ".


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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by haptruck » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:31 pm

Thanks for the information Glenn. The tractor wheel is 36" thus an older Pullford.
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The method used on my tractor to attach to the axel is shown in this photo along with the no way for a spring attachment on the missing perch. The bolt attaching the kit to the rear cross member can also be seen.
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It also looks like the Model T axel should be on top of the I beam and the tractor axel below and no stone or dirt guard on my tractor.
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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by TractorGlenn » Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:16 pm

Hi Herb! It looks like your tractor has been modified a bit. You are missing a few small castings and u-bolts but you have the important parts. The axle and I assume it has the cast stops at the ends is correct but originally would be mounted on top of the I-beam and behind the T rear end. The I-beams look original but would be mounted to the castings under the T rear axle tubes with long U-bolts going around the top of the tubes and down thru top and bottom of the beam. The I-beams do not mount directly to the frame in front. There is a vertical bar that attaches to the front of the I-beams and goes up to the frame, clamping to the bottom edge of the T frame rails. There is a bar between both I-beams at the front to prevent the I-beams moving sideways. It looks like you have optional 14 tooth "road pinions". Normally an 8 tooth pinion came with the attachment for farming. Some farmers bought both pairs of pinions so they could get a little more speed pulling wagons to market etc. Some buyers used the Pullford just for hauling as a tractor-trailer. Is there a drawbar on the back?


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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by haptruck » Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:14 am

Hi Glenn, Yes there is a drawbar. After looking at my own photo -- I can see a 1/2" steel plate wielded to the frame and a notch for the axle so not just a few bolts holding the kit on. I agree the kit was modified a lot. Thanks for all the information.
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Re: Model T tractor conversion information

Post by TractorGlenn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:34 am

This view shows the holes on the I-beams where components were mounted. The lower part of the drawbar is homemade. the angle with all the holes was supplied with the attachment. The Pullford I described earlier is how they manufactured when they were built for a T with a body, I am sure later in the 20's some buyers were mounting them with the axle in front of the T rear end in order to have a shorter turning radius especially if the tractor was used on a golf course pulling gang mowers. I am sure Pullford supplied some attachments in this manner with shorter I beams drilled for this type of installation late in production. Like all attachments or conversions they were quite basic. Owners made "improvements" and adapted the attachments to their own needs. By the way, golf courses were another user of the 14 tooth pinions.

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