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Generator not building up

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:10 pm

I noticed that the battery wasn't charging and the cutout was not closing. If I manually make contact with the cutout, it charges! Why won't the generator build up to make the cutout work?

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Re: Generator not building up

Post by TRDxB2 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:18 pm

jonathan wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:10 pm
I noticed that the battery wasn't charging and the cutout was not closing. If I manually make contact with the cutout, it charges! Why won't the generator build up to make the cutout work?
Likely the cut-out has reached its life expectancy. I assume its the relay type, non a diode, with contact points. Usually they stick closed and drain the battery. Instead of thinking about re-gaping the points upgrade it with a diode. This link explains https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19562
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Re: Generator not building up

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:38 pm

In he meantime I will just make contact manually I guess. Thank you


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Re: Generator not building up

Post by speedytinc » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:48 pm

dont run it, unless you ground the gen output terminal. you can still operate on battery dead loss or on mag.
hand crank to save power.


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Re: Generator not building up

Post by speedytinc » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:54 pm

continued... you dont want to burn up a good generator. the gen will try to charge to 30v untill it burns itself up.
bad cutouts are generator killers. you are fortunate to notice it was not charging.


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Re: Generator not building up

Post by Art M » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:42 pm

The points probably need to be filed and the closing voltage needs to be set at about 6.5 vokts. This can be done but don't recommend it if you respect your generator.
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Re: Generator not building up

Post by AndreFordT » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:57 am

Jonathan,
Just send me an email, I will try to walk you through the test and rebuild of the cutout and generator.

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Re: Generator not building up

Post by Norman Kling » Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:17 pm

Have you tried to flash the generator? You can do this by starting the engine running at a fast idle, take a short piece of wire and connect between the generator output and the battery on the opposite side of the cutout. Do this for just a few seconds and then check the ammeter. If it shows a charge, you are OK. If not, you might very well need to replace the cutout. Do not run for any period of time with the generator disconnected from the battery by a pad cutout, because it will cause overheating and burn out the generator.
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Re: Generator not building up

Post by jonathan » Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:08 am

if while the car is running, I remove the cutout cover and press the contact, the generator charges. When i shut the car off and restart it, the contact does not make contact. I can run it that way, I just have to remember to push the contact.


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Re: Generator not building up

Post by Norman Kling » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:01 pm

The cutout is bad and needs replacement. The coil which pulls down the points is not working, probably open.
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Re: Generator not building up

Post by Mark Gregush » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:21 pm

Flashing is done with the engine NOT running and only need to be done if the car has been sitting for many years and the generator has lost its residual magnetism and is not working as a test if not charging, after a rebuild (sometimes) or if the polarity has been change (someone setup for positive ground and is being changed back to correct negative).
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Re: Generator not building up

Post by RustyFords » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:27 pm

Mine is doing the same thing. This is a timely post.
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