Has anyone seen this external oiler

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Has anyone seen this external oiler

Post by Matt in California » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:12 am

I saw this in Dukes encyclopedia, but I have never seen one in person.

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Re: Has anyone seen this external oiler

Post by Matt in California » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:26 am

Oil
Oil

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Re: Has anyone seen this external oiler

Post by kmatt » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:57 am

Hi Matt, If you still have that 1917 Chevy 490 and it has a original engine go look at it. The early Chevy 490's, up to 1919 I think, had a plunger type cam operated oil pump like the one you show in Dykes Manual. The later Chevy 490's used a gear driven oil pump driven off the back of the generator- distributor drive.

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Re: Has anyone seen this external oiler

Post by Matt in California » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:27 pm

Keith,
Yes I did see this in the 1917 Chevy. But I have never seen someone drill a hole in the side of the block in make a oil pump off the great shaft. For most model tease I would not want to do that. But it seems like it may be a good idea for a speedster or something like that.

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Re: Has anyone seen this external oiler

Post by kmatt » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:01 am

Matt, In one of the Ford T speedster books, Speed & Sport or Fast Ford, it shows using the early Chevy 490 oil pump on a Model T engine cam lobe. The problem Chevy had with the pump is its low volume, but it only pumps oil to the dip tray in a 490, that is why Chevy went to the later gear type pump. I think the T racers that did this were in the late teens to early 20's and pumped oil from a small oil tank into the front of the engine on longer races. I will have to go back and look for the article in the book when I have some time.

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Re: Has anyone seen this external oiler

Post by Matt in California » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:38 am

Kieth,
Thanks for your insight!

It seems like the movement of the cam shaft is very small. And I would agree not too much oil.

Matthew

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