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[TXGOAT2]

Tires? Don't need'um. Waste of money!!

[Allan]

Pat, those must be the legendary Coker Excelsior tyres "over 10 000 miles on them, with no apparent wear."

Allan from down under.

[Wayne Sheldon]

Number eleven, where in the world? It appears to be a Canadian built right hand drive from 1920 to 1922. The darkness of the picture makes it difficult to tell, but I doubt it is an Australian built body like most Australian model Ts those years. The one man top and the windshield look like what Canadian Ts had those few years. The clothing suggests some place very warm, so not likely in Canada. Is New Zealand that warm? Or perhaps somewhere in Africa?

Number twelve is another era wire wheel model T! This one a removable pillar couplet, so likely a 1918. The flat top version of the removable pillar couplet stretched a little long on both ends of the 1918 model year, so it may have been considered a late 1917 or very early 1919 before the starter actually became available about December of 1918 calendar year. Note the oil sidelamps.

The first picture appears to be a 1923 or 1924 roadster with a nice after-market build wooden pickup box. Notice the oil sidelamps again, also an oil tail-lamp can be seen under the far side of the box, indicating a car without the electrics package upgrade. Also it appears to have wood felloe non-demountable wheels, so likely a loss leader cheapest model roadster, making for a practical light duty delivery truck.

The third photo is a model N Ford, likely a 1907.

[Allan]

Wayne, the pith helmets in no !1 suggest India to me.

Allan from down under.

[Wayne Sheldon]

Wayne, the pith helmets in no !1 suggest India to me.

Allan from down under.

Allan, Pretty much my thought also. One consideration however is that many of India's model Ts came the the factory in England rather than the Canadian factory. I don't know if or not the England built Ts at that time were quite the same as Canadian Ts? Many Canadian Ts were shipped to Africa however.

But I am still trying to learn more.

[WayneJ]

One could take a deep dive into anyone of these photos. I often wonder what the original subjects would think of hundreds of strangers from all over the world looking at their images one hundred years later. I wonder what the subjects lives were like. Many of the photos appear to document family get togethers.
No. 4 has tire chains, presumably to navigate muddy roads. Are these folks from the city, visiting their country relatives? The gentleman in No. 14 is posing so proudly in front of a car with no tires. It looks like it should be a running car. Appears to have a good top. Are we waiting for a mail order of a new set of tires? Or is this one last photo before this car is donated to WWII scrap drive? As an animal lover, I enjoy seeing the two cats and one dog in photo No. 16. The lady on the far left has one black cat on her shoulders and she is petting another cat which is sitting on the front fender. The dog is on the far right. They are in the family photo because they are part of the family.
All of Tom's photos would make a great book.

[Original Smith]

I wonder if Tom will ever find a real 1925 Pickup?

[Luxford]

Wayne, England never supplied Fords to India they came from Canada. As Allan suggested India is possible though South Africa, Siam (Ceylon area) or the east coast of Africa where Kenya is is also possible.

[Wayne Sheldon]

Thanh you Peter K!
I am always trying to learn more, and want to see good discussions on these threads.

[Luxford]

Wayne, For you here is a bit of info. Ford Canada printed this sketch showing the routes used to ship Fords overseas in the 1920's . Most Canadian Fords left from Ontario Canada and went east mostly to New York and then onto the British Colonies. Those going west to Vancouver and onto Fiji and New Zealand and then to Australia was an option only used when problems arose such as during WW1 when the eastward route was jammed up because of the war.

Discussions such as occured years ago about all others facits of Model T history appear to have disappeared from the forum, Probably because those interested are no longer around and new owners are flat out just trying to work out what oil they should use and if a water pump is OK. If they do have an interest in other things Model T they rairly ask such here on the forum.

Bruce McCalley asked me to help find Canadian RHD info and other Model T stuff such as the 4 wheel Drive T's and unusual Model T's which I did for many years in the Vintage Ford but the new editors (after Jay Klehfoth) only want submited articles that they then can claim ownership of and the copyright. No other magazine that I send articles to do that. So the Vintage Ford no longer get the information I have written.

Any historical or general material for an article can be found by anyone willing to look for it so what reason is there for that information to suddenly be copyrighted by the MTFCA ?

The editor always has the last say if an article is included or not, so they can work out if there is a "problem" but the members deserve to be able to read an article of interest to them. Any content in the Vintage Ford can be used by any other person for their use, how the MTFCA thinks they can stop that information being passed on to others is stupid.

You can read about the submission rules in the "Vintage Ford Magazine" forum in the forum section which is listed along with the Classified and other options under forums.