Wheel Spoke Length

[wmscottsutherland]

I tried searching but could not find anything. That does not mean I searched for the term or terms that should be used.

I need help trying to determine the correct spoke size for some wheels I am trying to rebuild.

The measurements I get from the wheel seem to be incorrect. These are demountable wheels and the rims are 30x1/2. The one measurement I know is correct is the 1/2" tenon.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

[Steve Jelf]

https://www.modeltford.com/item/2800HS-HY.aspx

https://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG108.html

[wmscottsutherland]

Thanks Mr. Jelf. I have your press already book marked. That's why I wanted ted find the spoke so I could build the press and use it.

I knew you would have the answer.

[Allan]

I believe the Lang's listing Steve posted is somewhat misleading. Kelsey and Hayes did not merge until after T production ended, so in the T world the two brands of wheels are different. Hayes wheel felloes have depressions to accommodate the foot on the rim lugs. Some other felloes have cut outs to allow Hayes rims to fit. For wheels with fixed lugs like most US production, I believe the spoke length is the same, but tenon diameters may differ.

The length of spoke differs on the wheels having loose lug type rims. The felloes on our Canadian sourced Kelsey loose lug wheels are not as deep in cross section as fixed lug rims, so they require a longer spokes.

You need to know exactly what wheels you have before ordering, and it may be prudent to ascertain that all four wheels are the same.

Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.

[Steve Jelf]

As usual, Allan is correct. Kelsey and Hayes were separate companies until the end of Model T production.

[wmscottsutherland]

So far this has been the easiest part of this adventure. I tested the press and it worked flawlessly. I've already taken the wheel apart to varnish the spokes and finish painting the rims.

Today was a fun day.

[Allan]

Your photo shows the outer plate positioned with the bolt hols being drilled through the spokes rather than between them. The hub should be set that way and the plate follows suit. Or was the photo just staged for our viewing? Nice work with the rebuild.

Allan from down under.

[Allan]

Correction! That is the hub that is wrongly aligned. My mistake.

Allan from down under.

[wmscottsutherland]

That was just a test. No holes drilled yet.

I did not know the holes are supposed to be where the spokes join so thanks for that.

Any other advice is greatly appreciated.