Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
-
Pep C Strebeck
Topic author - Posts: 578
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:12 am
- First Name: Joseph
- Last Name: M
- Location: MI
Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
Not wanting to hijack an earlier thread or have it "drift-off" into another direction about different front cross members ( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10523 ), I thought I would ask my question in a new thread. When Ford made the change in 1920 to a "new" cross member made of heavier steel, what is the thickness from the "old" to the "new" cross member? If anyone might know I would be interested in the difference. The ones that I have to measure will not be "accessible" until Spring.
"Remember son, there are two ways to do this: The right way, and your way” Thanks Dad, I love you too.
LOOKING FOR A LUFKIN No. 9A Height Gage Attachment.
LOOKING FOR A LUFKIN No. 9A Height Gage Attachment.
-
Steve Jelf
- Posts: 7237
- Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
- First Name: Steve
- Last Name: Jelf
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
- Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
- Board Member Since: 2007
- Contact:
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
On one I get .152" and another measures .168". Maybe the second one is wearing more paint. Both are post-1920. Somebody with an older car will have to measure the other one for you.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring
-
R.V.Anderson
- Posts: 680
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:01 pm
- First Name: R.V.
- Last Name: Anderson
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914, 1920, 1923, 1923
- Location: Kennedy, NY
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
I believe it went from 0.105" (12 ga.) to 0.125". I could be wrong.
-
Corey Walker
- Posts: 637
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:46 am
- First Name: Corey
- Last Name: Walker
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 runabout, 1921 homemade truck, 1921 Speedster
- Location: Brownsboro, TX
- Board Member Since: 2007
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
These measurements are slightly larger because of rust and paint and/or inaccuracy of the cheap calipers, but they are consistent with what R.V. stated. One is an 09-13 frame and the other is 1921-25.
- Attachments
-
-
Corey Walker, Brownsboro, Texas
-
John kuehn
- Posts: 4433
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
- First Name: John
- Last Name: Kuehn
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 19 Roadster, 21 Touring, 24 Coupe
- Location: Texas
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
So are the earlier frames also a little thinner than the later frames? If the early front cross member is thinner it would seem that the rest of the frame would be the same thickness also.
Just wondering.
Just wondering.
-
DanTreace
- Posts: 3813
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
- First Name: Dan
- Last Name: Treace
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
- Location: North Central FL
- Board Member Since: 2000
- Contact:
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
The front crossmember was changed to thicker steel in June 1920.
As for the chassis frame, the later Improved Car chassis frame got thicker steel too: Previous frame members were made of .125-inch steel. A letter to chassis suppliers, dated February 28, 1926, specified the metal to be the same as the truck chassis (Type “L” steel, .180-.200 inches thick).
As for the chassis frame, the later Improved Car chassis frame got thicker steel too: Previous frame members were made of .125-inch steel. A letter to chassis suppliers, dated February 28, 1926, specified the metal to be the same as the truck chassis (Type “L” steel, .180-.200 inches thick).
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
-
MWalker
- Posts: 475
- Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:49 am
- First Name: Mike
- Last Name: Walker
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1916 Roadster Pickup
- Location: NW Arkansas
- MTFCA Life Member: YES
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
Thanks for that info, Dan. I never knew the '26-7 frames are heavier than earlier ones.
-
TeveS-Nor Cal
- Posts: 140
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:11 pm
- First Name: Steve
- Last Name: Straw
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1915 and lots of parts
- Location: Penn Valley, CA
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
I have a later- thick frame. It measures .187 thick . The front cross member is about .156 allowing for very little paint and rust. This is a '26/27 frame. I had a '25 frame that was the .187 thickness but, the cross members were the thinner- maybe the .125. These are both stock, unmolested frames.
-
Pep C Strebeck
Topic author - Posts: 578
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:12 am
- First Name: Joseph
- Last Name: M
- Location: MI
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
Thank you for all the information and help, it is very much appreciated.
"Remember son, there are two ways to do this: The right way, and your way” Thanks Dad, I love you too.
LOOKING FOR A LUFKIN No. 9A Height Gage Attachment.
LOOKING FOR A LUFKIN No. 9A Height Gage Attachment.
-
Original Smith
- Posts: 3699
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:43 am
- First Name: Larry
- Last Name: Smith
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 13 Touring, 13 Roadster, 17 Coupelet, 25 Roadster P/U
- Location: Lomita, California
- MTFCA Life Member: YES
Re: Front cross member "heavier steel", thickness?
The TT trucks are a heavier cross member.