Any one ever see a rear door like this on any 1909-12 T

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Any one ever see a rear door like this on any 1909-12 T

Post by JTT3 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm

Looking at an unusual “early Ford T” to purchase. Looked more late 11 to early 12 put together. 9/10 steering column, split valve engine mid teens rear axle case and so forth. I can attest that the body is early but I don’t think Ford. What through me was the split front seats and rear doors with a slightly curved shape & bail handles. Anyone have an idea of the body?
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Re: Any one ever see a rear door like this on any 1909-12 T

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:29 pm

What are the body mounts/brackets like? Even if they are Ford, was shimming or trimming required? Any holes or fillings to indicate other previous mounts? I am with you, I very much doubt that it was a Ford body originally.
Even Ford used outsourced bodies all through the '10s (and before), and many of the companies also produced bodies for other car manufacturers. Wilson produced bodies for dozens of other early automobiles including Cadillac and I believe I read Oldsmobile early on. Fischer in the '10s produced fine bodies for lots of companies. It was not uncommon for similarities to show upon other cars. There is a surviving Maxwell center-door sedan in very original condition. People that have looked it over closely say the body is nearly identical to the Ford center-door sedan, and original sales literature bears this out as being Maxwell original.
It sounds as if someone got a nice original body and built a Ford under it!
I seem to recall seeing an EMF/Flanders many years ago with a body very similar to this.


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Re: Any one ever see a rear door like this on any 1909-12 T

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:30 pm

Front seats: Ford Model early T (or possibly R or S) runabout. Top support holes plugged.

It's a marriage. To what/whom, I don't know. Maybe Wayne is right on the rear half. EMF had bale handles on the rear but the shape of the rear door doesn't look right for EMF.
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Re: Any one ever see a rear door like this on any 1909-12 T

Post by HornsRus » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:12 pm

here is a car that was put together in the 60s ,its on a 13 stude 35 who knows what the body is i have it now in maney pieces, it crashed on the highway.i have it all and will rebuild it for my 1911 russell knight if i live that long ha,ha. charley
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Re: Any one ever see a rear door like this on any 1909-12 T

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:10 pm

John

am looking forward to your further assessment of this car.

I am still pretty sure front seat is runabout, but less sure it is Ford, though there have been some photos in the long-past which had very similar seat dividers.
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