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I am 14 and I bought a 1926 T. Now what?...

Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:18 pm

I am 14 and I bought a 1926 touring recently. I am working on getting it running and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. The T also came with three extra engines which I have put under my workbench. Thanks!
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Post by CudaMan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:25 pm

Congratulations! Hopefully the engine in your car is fine and you won't have to use those extra engines any time soon.

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG52.html
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Post by CudaMan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:31 pm

One suggestion - if the car runs, try to keep it in running condition while you're working on it to keep your enthusiasm level up.

Too many people buy a car project, then immediately take it completely apart. Then, as the work drags on and since they can't drive it, they eventually lose interest and it remains a partially completed, non-running project car that someone else eventually scoops up for a song. :)
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:56 pm

14 was when I got my first old car. It has been bliss for nearly 60 years.
Listening to others advice but going your own direction will be valuable to staying interested. There is a lot of fun to be had if you can weather a few setbacks.
You are lucky to like these things. Many of your friends are missing out.
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Post by TFan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:05 pm

Jonah, Glad to see you are posting on the Forum, when I talked to you a couple of weeks ago you seem very enthusiastic about your T. All I can say is Try to maintain that level of love for this hobby and you will certainly turn it into a lifetime of good times and fellowship. And as far as what's next, I see you are already looking for clubs near you that is a very good start and if you have a question about anything in particular ask away. Did the tires help you out? Jim Riedy
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:12 pm

Here are some picture.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:18 pm

More pictures
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:20 pm

Jim, the tires are going to be a great help. I am getting tubes soon.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:28 pm

Does anyone know of any good auxillary brakes other than Rocky Mountain brakes?
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Post by Hap_Tucker » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:14 pm

Jonah,

Nice car! The 1926-27 cars came with a larger 11 inch rear emergency brake drum rather than the 1906-1925 smaller 8 inch brake drum. And the 1926-27 came with a lined emergency brake shoe (the earlier cars came with cast metal brake shoes -- no lining. Although accessory 8 inch brake shoes that are lined are available for the earlier axles.) If your car has an aftermarket auxiliary transmission or a two speed Ruckstell rear axle -- then yes, I would strongly encourage you to find and install some aftermarket rear brakes. For both of the aftermarket transmission and the Ruckstell you can find your car stuck in neutral. And if that happens the normal service brake on the transmission stops the transmission drums and u-joint -- but somewhere further down the driveshaft the transmission or Ruckstell in neutral prevents the stopped u-joint from stopping the car. The car will be free-wheeling. That could also happen if have a normal stock drive line if there is a failure of the rear axle thrust washer, failure of the U-joint, failure of the axle key etc. But if you make sure those are all good before you start driving the T -- they normally are not a problem. I strongly recommend replacing any babbit rear axle thrust washers with bronze thrust washers.

If your car has the standard engine and drive train -- the accessory brakes are an added safety feature, but one I would feel comfortable not having (assuming I have replaced any babbit rear axle thrust washers with bronze and the key ways, axle keys, pinion key, u-joint, pinion gear and ring gear etc. are in good condition. And the 1926-27 has a slightly wider transmission band for the brake. That along with the lined 11 inch brake shoes would be adequate for me. If you live in the mountains and like to go as fast as you can down the hills, then accessory brakes would also be a good idea. Note I would also be OK with the small 8 inch earlier rear drums if I had lined shoes that would lock the rear wheels when the emergency brake lever was pulled full aft.

Two additional accessory brakes are shown at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/70 ... 1503778673

Some more and duplicates at:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50 ... 1443835467

Welcome to the hobby! And have fun with the car. And be sure to remember to keep your school grades up. It increases the size of the garage you can someday own.

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Post by Oldav8tor » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:35 pm

Brakes? Jonah, that is a very astute observation. Getting a Model T to "Go" is a great accomplishment. Getting it to "Stop" can be equally rewarding.

I had some experiences on a tour in really hilly country that were a little scary (where I live is pretty flat) so this spring I installed hydraulic disc brakes on the rear wheels. Pricey, but in my opinion well worth it (see photo.) The car stops really well and the brakes are pretty much maintenance-free unlike some of the others that require careful adjustment (and re-adjustment.)
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Post by Model T Mark » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:44 pm

Welcome, I’m 50 and grew up in the hobby and have extensive experience restoring Model T Fords. Ever have any kind of technical question drop me an email at meyre14t@yahoo.com. My name is Mark.


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Post by KLTagert » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:51 pm

Welcome - you are one awesome young man ! It makes my heart happy to see you in a Model T and know you'll keep it's history alive. You'll find lots of good advise here on the Forum to help you along with your T. Can't wait to see you on a tour in a year or two.

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Post by Norman Kling » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:07 pm

Your 26 Touring is more together than mine was when I bought it.
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I would say, the first thing you do is check out everything to be sure it is working right, but don't be too fast to take it apart unless it is broken. You want to find out what needs to be fixed, and what does not. Then take apart those things which need attention.
You have several decisions to make: 1. Whether you want it to run well even though everything is not exactly original. 2.Whether you want to make improvements such as upgrading the brakes. 3.Some things require pulling the engine and transmission to fix. If you do this, it's good to fix everything in that area while it is out, so you won't have to do it again soon. If you have an auto shop in your high school, you might be able to do some of the work on the car there.

Very importantly, if you plan to drive the car on public roads, be sure to get your drivers licence and get insurance before you do.
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Post by david_dewey » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:22 am

Well, I did some math, and I was 14 when I started working on my Model A. Now I'm a little unusual in that I had to put the car back together, as my Brothers had taken it apart, and it took a while. I started on the car in 8th grade and was able to drive it to my High School graduation (not finished, but street legal and running!) in 1971. I still have that car, in fact I'm basically the second owner, the original owner died when I was a year old and the car sat on the resort property until my Brothers started working on it when I was only 9 years old.
This is not the usual way to get into the hobby, and many would loose interest way before the car gets finished. I finished the car in 1974, to give you an idea of how long a time it can sometimes take! Come to think of it, my first Model T isn't done, and I've had it some 20 years now! Of course, other model Ts came along and it was put on the "back burner" (my first T was a completely disassembled project that had been abandoned around 1961, so nothing like yours--mine was (and still somewhat is) a pile of parts). My last T purchase was Barney, and he was intact, and I was able to get him running in a day. That's the kind of T to find! (however, the body wood is dry-rotted, so I have that project to do now).
So, you are starting at the right time in your life if you want to have a life-time hobby with lots of great memories, and wonderful folks to be around.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:51 am

Does anyone know of any good auxiliary brakes other than Rocky Mountain brakes?

Yes. AC brakes are said to work when you're backing up, Rockies don't.

I believe you can get a learner's permit at 15. Do you have access to private property where you can practice driving until then?
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Post by AndreFordT » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:04 am

Johan,
To grade up the brakes on my 1926 Touring I used the brake Equalizer T-2565-X and new brake lining T-2566-D.
This works great for me also when it is wet. This set up use the original hand brake parts and isn't that expensive.

Just what I did.
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Post by Chris Barker » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:31 am

May I suggest you read the answers here?
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Post by Quickm007 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:18 am

Johan,

You have a very cool car, find a place to drive it like a big field or farm place... And please just following this advice... I was close to gave-up on my 1911 restoration after 10 years of work on it and 4 years without driving any T was a very difficult experience for me.
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One suggestion - if the car runs, try to keep it in running condition while you're working on it to keep your enthusiasm level up.

Too many people buy a car project, then immediately take it completely apart. Then, as the work drags on and since they can't drive it, they eventually lose interest and it remains a partially completed, non-running project car that someone else eventually scoops up for a song. :)
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Post by RustyFords » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:10 am

Welcome Jonah.

I bought my first old car when I was 14 too.

The advice posted here is excellent, so I won't add to it. But I would like to welcome you to world of Model T's. Please don't hesitate to ask for help here.
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Post by Phillip » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:58 am

Great to know about you getting in Ts.
I installed the brake equalizer on my 1927 roadster pickup and really like the way they work.
I wrote an article about them in the December 2019 newsletter for the Tennessee Ts.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:36 pm

Philip, what do you mean by "brake equalizer."
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:49 pm

Does it refer to a system connecting the emergency brakes to the brake pedal or RM brakes to the brake pedal?
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Post by CudaMan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:10 pm

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Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:34 pm

Congratulations Jonah and welcome to the brother and sisterhood. That's a great car you have there.


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Post by Phillip » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:04 pm

It is a system that uses the brake pedal (with an extension welded on) to use both the transmission brake and the rear drum brakes at the same time. You still use the parking brake lever as normal.


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:02 am

interesting
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Post by Its_Always_T_Time » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:41 am

Model Ts like to be well oiled and well greased! It doesn’t hurt to add a little oil to the oil cups on the suspension every few drives, and give the grease cups a turn every week, depending on how much you drive of course. Keeping things well oiled and greased will save you a ton of time and money in the long run by preventing premature wear and tear on parts. If your car doesn’t have an oil screen with a magnet, I’d recommend buying one. If you haven’t already, buy the Ford Owner’s Manual, the Ford Service Manual, and the MTFCA books on the car’s systems. Just reading those club books answered so many questions for me and gave me ideas for future maintenance projects. I buy my parts and books from Lang’s, they’re good people and their store is comprehensive. I would highly recommend ordering their free catalog, it has exploded views of the Model T’s subsystems and those exploded views will help you understand how things work immensely. I just got my T a little more than a month ago and already I’ve become a bit of a local celebrity, these cars get a lot of attention and everyone just loves Ts, they brighten everyone’s day when you pass by. Don’t be afraid to ask questions here, people here will be all too happy to help!
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:23 am

Thanks! I will do that!
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:13 pm

Does anyone have auxiliary brakes that will fit a large drum. I have an abundance of parts to trade if you would accept a trade.
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Post by Duey_C » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:06 pm

You're nuts Jonah. And welcome to the old iron affliction! All of us are nuts! Hallelujah. :lol:
For some of us, the (flywheel) gas engines and old tractors are often hand in hand with the Ford T!
Good choice with a model T! Parts availability & ease of servicing etc etc.
It's a huge plus that the model T is so different to use than most all else. :)
That simple (so different) fact brings me great joy. I can drive a T! And so will you! Then the fun of trying to teach some people how to drive it too!
Shoot, re-line your brake shoes and see what you have. :)
Get it running and sneak out a little bit. But ya gotta have brakes in case the rear axle is in dire need...
That'll be just plain fun getting used to that living-breathing little Ford!
I can attest, I've owned the '29 International truck left overs that turned into a speedster over time since I was 13 when Grandpa
hauled it home for me on a hay rack and his '58 Chevrolet pickup. 1977. My old iron affliction got worse. Way worse. :)
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Re: I am 14 and I bought a 1926 T. Now what?...

Post by ericmac » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:28 pm

Jonah,
I didn't get my first T until I was 35, though I always had access to them growing up. I recently sold my '26 Touring but may be able to help with authenticity questions if you have any. Mine turned out to be a decent restoration. I'm glad to be of help if I can. Welcome to the hobby!
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:10 am

Do you know what colors the body could be if the tires are straw colored? On a 1926
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Post by Mark Nunn » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:27 am

Factory-installed wire wheels were black. Dealers would exchange them for wheels of other colors to suit customer preferences. You have a the opportunity to paint your car any color combination that you like since there was no standard combination.


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:58 am

Thank you very much!
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Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:06 am

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These pages are from Bruce McCalley's Model T Encyclopedia. The disk version is the best fifty bucks you can send on your Model T.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:23 am

Thanks, were do I buy it?
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Post by CudaMan » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:42 pm

I believe you can order the disk from Barbara McCalley, the Gourmet Lizzie:

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Post by ModelT46 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:35 pm

I was 14 when I bought my first car.It was a 1910 Model T Touring.That was 74 years ago. You will need to keep your T 74 years to the same, since I Still own and drive that 1910 T.

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Post by John Warren » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:45 am

Welcome Jonah, It is so good to see a young man as you, interested in such things. Hopefully you have Model T people in your area that can help you and you can tour with. As far as brakes, start with servicing and adjusting your emergency brakes. The 26-27 brakes are far superior to the early emergency brakes. If adjusted correctly and in good shape, they will stop the car as good as the transmission brake. The challenge is using it in an emergency. If you train yourself to use the hand brake as back up to the regular brakes, it can be safe. Another alternative is t have them apply with the foot brake with additional linkage. The threat of being caught in neutral with out brakes is real , especially with a ruckstell. Be safe and Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:44 am

When I bought my T, it came with an abundance of parts. I found in the boxes, two old wrenches. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about them. I am sending pictures with crayon rubbings of the letters and numbers on them.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:53 am

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sorry, picture not sending I think this will send
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the other wrench
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:59 am

The other wrench pictures
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Post by Hap_Tucker » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:17 pm

Jonah,

At Steve Jelf's posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/82 ... 1529247932 he has the following picture and information:
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and he said: [Spark plug wrench] "At the top is the teens wrench. Second is the version used from 1920 to the end of Model T production. Third is the TT version. The fourth is a Ford V-8 wrench.

The #2335 in both teens and twenties versions is one of the most plentiful Ford wrenches. The last time I bought one at a swap meet I paid $2 for it. "


Note I cannot tell from your photo, but the Model A head bolt and spark plug wrench has a wider opening for the wider 1928-1931 Champion Model A Ford spark plug that the Model T spark plug opening. A photo of one of those from an e-bay listing is shown below:
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:21 pm

Thank you!
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:34 pm

How much do you think this could sell for? it has been sitting for about twenty years, but the valves move freely and it has little rust.
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Post by FordFool » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:30 pm

Hi. It looks like a NH straight thru. Rebuild it and put it on your car. Don


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:21 am

Ok, should I buy new butterfly valves and needle valves?
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:34 am

The rebuild kit is almost as expensive as some of the rebuilt carbs.
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Post by Norman Kling » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:09 am

That carburetor is incorrect for a 26. It would take more than a rebuild kit to adapt it to fit. The adjustment needle is made for an earlier car. You need a swivel to fit the choke/adjustment knob for a 26. Unless you are having trouble with the existing carburetor, you can just put that one back o the shelf or sell it. Look for things which really need to be fixed and work on those first.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:51 am

Really? this was the carb i found on the car.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:41 pm

The previous owner didn't restore it but did get It running. Mabey he adapted it to fit.
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I don't know whether you can see this, but this how your carburetor should look with the right needle and swivel. I think you can order one like this from the suppliers, if not, one will probably come up at a swap meet. Look for a needle which is tapered and does not have a groove worn in it. That needle will fit this carburetor. Or a rebuilt one for a 26 can be bought and most likely this one can be used as a core.
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Post by DHort » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:30 pm

Jonah

Could you show us a picture of the engine where the carb goes? It might fit. You only need to $1.95 gasket kit to rebuild it unless the needle is bad. That's only $20. You can make it work without needing the swivel for that year. I rarely adjust my carb.


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:05 pm

It did fit when I took it out.
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:15 pm

Engine pictures.
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Post by DanTreace » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:54 pm

Looks like a mid to late engine, with the straps to the rear of the hogshead. But seems the manifolds have been changed to use that NH carb. Rather common to have the later T's that came equipped with the Vaporizer Carb and manifolds replaced. The long studs are earlier with the early style manifold clamps standing outboard.

This engine did have the Vaporizer originally, as the throttle rod is hanging over the rear of the cylinder head, that rod goes to the steering column throttle shaft.
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Post by FordFool » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:01 pm

Jonah is your carb a straight thru or a swayback. You can tell by looking thru the carb. If it’s a full circle it’s a straight through.. If it looks oval it’s a sway back. The straight thru gives a little better performance if it’s set up right. Don


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:09 pm

Does a vaporizer carb work better? If so, I have two or three of them. Also, I believe when you look through the carburetor it is round.
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Post by FordFool » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:16 pm

I would use the NH on two of my cars. They are good carbs. I think they give a little power than the swayback’s. IMO. DON


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:45 am

Why did ford use vaporisor plates?
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Post by DanTreace » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:44 am

Heated the fuel for better atomization, improved gas milage for economy.

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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:04 am

How do you clean and break free a differential gear system that has been rusted shut for twenty years?
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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:06 am

I have two rusted axles and casing. Also, how to you clean out a drive shaft?
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Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:50 pm

After you are sure that all the bolts are off and it is free on each end I would tap it with a hammer around the seam in the pumpkin to somewhat break it loose then pull on both ends. It should come off relatively easily. On the axles can you send pictures?
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Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:52 pm

To clean out the drive shaft you can use a piece of cable chucked into a drill. Spin it up and let it fray it should knock most of the rust off. You can use the same technique to clean the water jacket on the engine.

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Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:03 pm

Also the right size round wire brush on a drill and an extension will work well for at least the length of your drill bit extension.


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Post by John kuehn » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:43 pm

Jonah what also can help you getting to know a Model T is to get the vendors catalogs. They are valuable in getting to know the parts for a T.
There is lots of information about which parts are for what years.
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Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:49 pm

Jonah I was thinking on your aluminum radiator you just received that if you attach a fake original radiator fill riser on the top of it like an original just for looks it would be relatively difficult to distinguish it from the real thing.


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:04 am

that sounds like it would work well!
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Post by Jim Eubanks » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:34 am

Jonah, looks like you already have local T friends, Dick can introduce you to more locally and maybe get you over to Elizabethton to see the Terry shop. There are lots of model T folks around you and even more down here in the Knoxville area. One of the most important things you can do is build a library of T books starting with the service bulletins, repair manual and aftermarket repair manuals from the clubs.


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Post by Jonah D'Avella » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:56 am

I am slowly collecting Model T literature, and I have gotten some engine, transmission, and electrical books from the museum in Ohio. Do you know Dick?
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Post by Original Smith » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:22 am

The best thing you can do for now is to buy the Ford Service book with the section on the improved cars. That is how I learned, and I started with a 26 touring just like you. Don't sell that NH carburetor!

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Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:00 am

What Jim said. In looking at previous posts I see I recommended the Encyclopedia but neglected to post this: http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG80.html.
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Post by ivaldes1 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:40 pm

Hi Jonah any progress pictures?


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Post by Original Smith » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:29 am

You wanted to know what an equalizer is. Assuming you are referring to outside brakes, it distributes the pressure from the brake pedal equally to the rear wheels. All original accessory brakes except Bennett used a cable. Bennett, which is what the current Rocky Mountains copied uses rods, which require you to weld an extension to the bottom of your brake pedal.


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Larry, The AC brakes also use an equalizer and rods. I installed a set for a customer last spring.


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Post by gary80005 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:37 am

I picked up my Model T with my dad when I was 9. That was 59 years ago! I still remember sitting in the passenger seat and seeing the street below because there were no floor boards. We pulled the car home with my dad's 1940 Ford pickup. By the the way, you are not supposed to pull a Model T. It is hard on the transmission. I hope it doesn't take you 31 years to restore it like it did me. There was no MTFCA in those days. I finally got it restored in 1992 and have been enjoying it for the past 28 years. You don't have to wait until it is finished to drive it. I drove mine to tours with just the roadster body on the frame. Make sure you keep the extra engines. I broke a crank and destroyed the entire block on mine. Your local MTFCA will be a wealth of information and camaraderie. I'm working on a touring like yours that I have had for 27 years. Enjoy the hobby and club.


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After you are sure that all the bolts are off and it is free on each end I would tap it with a hammer around the seam in the pumpkin to somewhat break it loose then pull on both ends. It should come off relatively easily. On the axles can you send pictures?
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A mixture of parts. 23-25 firewall, 26-27 axle housings.
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Post by ivaldes1 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:05 pm

Ok a fair amount of rust but otherwise ok. You can brush the insides with kerosene to get any grease out. Use a cheap round toilet brush from the home store tie a string on it and run it through the tubes with kerosene on it. Any lumps on the walls you can get out of the tubes with a piece of pipe. Then get a drill mounted cup type wire brush and buzz all the rust off then send another picture. Do the two axles rotate on the spider gear? When you've cleaned up your crown gear a little look for gouges on the teeth. If it is gouged toss it and get another one.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:18 pm

You can brush the insides with kerosene...

...but it's ungodly expensive. Paint thinner costs less, and diesel fuel. I haven't priced Stoddard solvent lately, but even that probably costs less than kerosene.

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Post by John Warren » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:33 am

Jonah, Hopefully you have a rear end that is together. There is probably usable parts there but it will be expensive to get that one going. Someone in your area probably has one that they would give you. Do you have any model T friends close by that can help you sort things out? We have a young man in our club, like you he is asking a lot of questions. The model T he purchased did run and it has great seeing him keeping it running. Good luck and it is wonderful to see a young man ( you) interested in the old cars.
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Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:34 pm

I bow to the thriftiest of all. :-)
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You can brush the insides with kerosene...

...but it's ungodly expensive. Paint thinner costs less, and diesel fuel. I haven't priced Stoddard solvent lately, but even that probably costs less than kerosene.


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Post by Cordes_jeff » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:10 am

Got my touring project when I was 14. Got married in February with it. Best of luck to you.
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Post by Cordes_jeff » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:25 am

Steve, that's a modified low steel firewall making it 22-early 23.


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Post by jiminbartow » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:08 am

Congratulations. I bought my first T, a 1926 coupe for my life savings of $600.00, when I was 16 in 1970. It took me two years to totally restore and taught me a lifelong lesson to focus on your goal and don’t give up. In addition to teaching me about all aspects of restoration, such as mechanics, body work, woodworking, painting, upholstery, welding, soldering, wiring, troubleshooting, etc. it also taught me to have pride in attaining my goal and helping me to find common ground with my Dad and earning his respect when I financed the restoration myself with the money I earned working in a supermarket, bagging groceries after school and didn’t give up on the project.

First thing you need to do, if you haven’t done it already is to get a job. You’ll get a lot more satisfaction if you do it yourself without Dad having to dole out money for your project. He will respect and be proud of you for it too.

Don’t be afraid to dive in. If you run into a problem, analyze it by going in find out how it works, figure it out and proceed.

Take lots of pictures and weekly walk around videos with you describing what you have done for documenting your project. Get you Dad and family members in it and Have them video you so as to document your change in appearance as you grow. Be sure to precede each video with the date.

As you take it apart, use baggies, Jars, boxes or plastic containers and label the containers with detailed labels on where the screws go. On screws and bolts, wrap them with asking tape with labels to tell you where they go. If it takes you a long time, you will eventually Forget where that go and some bolts are hardened and others Are not, as well as the difference in thread count. Good luck. Jim Patrick

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Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:17 am

...that's a modified low steel firewall...

Yes, I should have recognized it. I have one. :)

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Post by jiminbartow » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:43 pm

There are three books that I believe you need save up for and buy in order to help you with your restoration. See photos. I could not have completed my restoration in 1970 without them. They will be a valuable investment in your project. When I knew I had a difficult job to do, I would spend a lot of time reading up on the procedure and by the time I was ready, I knew what to do. Jim Patrick

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Post by Susanne » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:48 am

My first "Model T" book was the first one (with the black cover, although mine was green back then, not black...), I was probably 13 or 14 as well, and it captivated me. As I went through it I compared the paragraphs and pictures to one of the cars in front of me, and it all made perfect sense.

The second one I had was the service bulletin essentials (the "brown book"), and it expanded what I learned in the Service book. I devoured these like kids devour magazines or sports stats ot a good video game nowadays. I got the chassis, and for christmas presents that year I got "The Model T in Speed and Sport" (the "Yellow Book"), a 19 or 20 Owners manual, and another era-correct book, what would turn out to be the first of a collection by a guy named Victor W. Pagé. (He wrote a lot of auto books, not just on Model T's, but the ones on T's were priceless.) The next year I got the Red Book (Restorers guide) and the first (IIRC it was also late teens / early 20's) of what would become a collection of Dyke's Automotive Manuals...

But back to your question. Get the Black Book. Read it. Devour it. Sit with your car and see in person what they're talking about. Especially since they have a section on the Improved Cars (of which yours is one)... great, great info that will remain useful as long as you are involvrd in Model T's (which may be a lifetime). :D

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