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Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Willie R » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:48 pm

Why does the lower corner pieces (corner pieces below the mounting flats) on New Brassworks radiators have a height of aprox 13/16" compared to an original Brass radiators lower corner piece height of aprox 5/16" ? ?
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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by pete eastwood » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:01 pm

My original 1914 is wide like the brassworks , it has some damage from an accessory bumper mount .
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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:45 pm

That piece on my 1915 radiator is about 5/16" like yours. One of the reasons I had my radiator recored instead of buying a new one was that I wanted to keep the original look. Another reason was hundreds of dollars. Since then I've seen a few gripes about the new radiators not holding up well under T-era driving conditions. I expect most are OK due to limited driving and/or tame roads.
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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Original Smith » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:22 am

You should do your homework! Both styles of radiators are genuine Ford. The ones with the short skirt are replacement radiators made by Ford after the 1916 model year, and discontinued in 1925. Even though I'm not a fan of the Brassworks, because they don't follow Fords methods, they are doing that skirt correctly.


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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by BobShirleyAtlantaTx » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:42 am

You should do your homework! PLEASE, this is what the forum is all about, please, please ask questions. That’s how we all learn, and share information.


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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Willie R » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:28 pm

I am a fan of the Brassworks and appreciate them and their work.
Mr. Smith, If you are so put out by peoples questions in this forum, then just simply leave. You dont have to be here....


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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Scott Rosenthal » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:50 pm

Willie R.
No, Smith did not need to ridicule you to answer this question....neither do you need to exacerbate the situation. Please spare us the drama...you got your data,get on with it. As for dismissing any contributor to the Forum...not your call Sir.
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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Willie R » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:48 pm

Mr Scott, please spare us with your opinion. We will do just fine without it.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:35 pm

I consider asking questions on the forum a legitimate part of my homework. :)
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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by John kuehn » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:59 pm

I do too. That’s what’s this forum is about. Asking questions is how we learn which is what this forum is all about to begin with. I’m not the smartest guy in the world and appreciate folks who answer questions for less educated folks like me that don’t have a ‘self appointed engineer degree’.

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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Retro54 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:59 pm

So forgetting the 'drama', are the shorter skirts truly Ford replacement radiators where the wider ones are originals? My '1915' radiator has the narrower apron.
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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by TRDxB2 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:08 pm

Retro54 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:59 pm
So forgetting the 'drama', are the shorter skirts truly Ford replacement radiators where the wider ones are originals? My '1915' radiator has the narrower apron.
This is what he said "Both styles of radiators are genuine Ford. The ones with the short skirt are replacement radiators made by Ford after the 1916 model year, and discontinued in 1925. ...... Brassworks, ..... they are doing that skirt correctly." So Brassworks is making a reproduction of the original radiator and not a reproduction of the replacements that Ford made

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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Retro54 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:50 pm

TRDxB2 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:08 pm
Retro54 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:59 pm
So forgetting the 'drama', are the shorter skirts truly Ford replacement radiators where the wider ones are originals? My '1915' radiator has the narrower apron.
This is what he said "Both styles of radiators are genuine Ford. The ones with the short skirt are replacement radiators made by Ford after the 1916 model year, and discontinued in 1925. ...... Brassworks, ..... they are doing that skirt correctly." So Brassworks is making a reproduction of the original radiator and not a reproduction of the replacements that Ford made
Agreed, I did read that. Was looking for someone else to corroborate the assertion that the thinner ones are FORD replacement units. This is a fascinating point of reference for brass radiators to me.


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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by DHort » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:01 pm

Willie R, you are correct. Smith could easily have left out his last sentence. No need for him to criticize a good vendor.


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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Kevin Pharis » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:48 pm

I have no radiator in this fight... and really don’t give a flyin hoot about the height of the radiator skirt, and so I should stay out of this discussion, but...

As a manufacturer of reproduction parts it seems like I should add a few words of perspective. I always advertise my products as “near exact” reproductions. To manufacture a truly “exact” reproduction component, it should be manufactured from the same materials and via the same methods as the originals so as to make it difficult to identify the new from the old. The persuit of “exact” can lead to near unlimited manufacturing costs and turn a product from expensive to unobtainable.
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:22 am
Even though I'm not a fan of the Brassworks, because they don't follow Fords methods, they are doing that skirt correctly.
While the “!” after the first sentence was probably an unintentional violation of internet edicate, Smith doesn’t bash the Brassworks. He simply points out that the fact that while cosmetically accurate, they are “near exact” reproductions.

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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by Kaiser » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:03 am

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Re: Brassworks Brass Radiator question..

Post by jiminbartow » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:45 pm

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