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Garage Space

Post by old_charley » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:43 pm

What does this suggest?
A: Too many cars
B: Not enough garage space.
I'm voting for B
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Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:46 pm

C: climate change

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Post by Raoul von S. » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:56 pm

D. styling study
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Post by BobD » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:18 pm

Hey Bryan, nice T truck in the snow picture.

Interesting how snow accumulates on model T’s and other vehicles of the era. The thought even crossed my mind to wheel mine out during the same storm.
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Post by Scottio » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:02 am

To me it suggests I put another log on the fire and refill my coffee.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:13 am

I vote with Bryan. You can never have too much garage space.
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Post by wayne sheldon » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:03 am

"E" Photoshop out the car in the background and the best Christmas card in years?

Beautiful photo!

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Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:48 am

Buy a tarp for cryn' out loud.
Forget everything you thought you knew.

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Post by Jim_PTC_GA » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:23 am

I vote storage problem.

Ever since the arrival of the Ts my wife has had to park outside. She wants us to build a new garage around back for the Ts but what she doesn't know is that I've got anouther barn rescue waiting to come here. Hahaha what's that saying, if you build it they will come.
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Post by MichaelPawelek » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:24 am

The right front tire is a pound low on air......

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Post by RalphS » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:27 am

If I can find a place to put all this extra stuff I'll have room for another T.
Around and around we go and where we stop we check the gas oil water and tires.


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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:57 am

Answers A through D : E=all of the above.
No matter what size you build a garage, it will be too small. Nature (and model Ts) abhors a vacuum.
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Post by varmint » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:16 am

Jim_PTC_GA wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:23 am
She wants us to build a new garage around back for the Ts but what she doesn't know is that I've got anouther barn rescue waiting to come here.
James,
If you are going to rescue a barn, then there will be plenty of garage space. Hope your lot will support it.
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Post by Humblej » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:32 am

A

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Post by Ruxstel24 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:48 am

I have 4 garages and they are all full...
Admittedly not all filled by me, but 2 were !! :)

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Re: Garage Space

Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:19 am

Any idea how many model Ts you can buy with the money it costs to build a garage?
When did I do that?


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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:39 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: Of course values vary a lot, it depends on "what kind of garage" and "which Model T" - rough averages indicate constructing a basic garage runs around $22.00 per square foot . . . if sale ads are an indication, the "average" price of a Model T, (heavily weighted toward presentable "black" cars) is about $ 6,000. Assuming these figures, you can buy a Model T for the cost of about 273 square feet of garage space, or an area roughly 16 feet by 16 feet . . . "you mileage may vary." :lol: :lol:
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Post by rickg » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:49 am

I had two T's in the garage and we had a hail storm, very large hail, it destroyed the wife's car, so she got a new car and I rented a storage space and the t's were stored there.

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Re: Garage Space

Post by ironhorse » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:13 pm

I didn't see Showing off for the neighbors :o
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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:48 pm

:D PRICELESS ! :lol:
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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:13 pm

...constructing a basic garage runs around $22.00 per square foot.

Wow! That puts a 30 x 60 at nearly forty grand. Maybe if I do all the work myself...? :)
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Post by hpetrino » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:51 pm

Steve,
Building a garage can be done economically. Plywood exterior, exposed studs inside, "roll" trusses, etc. For me the money is in the foundation/floor slab. I can do pretty much anything with a hammer and saw. Even electrical and plumbing get done pretty well. Give me a trowel and expect disappointment. :lol:


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Post by HaroldRJr » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:23 pm

Not many people realize that our Model T hobby was actually started by a couple of housewives who kept complaining of "too much junk" in the garage. Their respective husbands got so tired of the constant nagging about the problem that their eventual method of solving the "junk accumulation" in the garage was to stash a couple Model T's in their garages to take up space and prevent more accumulation of "junk". And,....as we've all heard it said,....."the rest is history"! Actually, another offshoot of this was the fact that the original "junk" accumulated anyway, and finally became known as "junque", and then of course came the development and gradual expansion of things like second hand stores, antique shops, Antiques Road Show, American Pickers, and steam punk! It's amazing,....the effect a few nagging housewives can have on society, right?


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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:58 pm

Steve, Henry, much depends on whether your local building nazis (I mean inspectors and codes) would permit you to build an economical wooden structure yourself. It also depends upon whether you'd rather be swinging a hammer or playing with your Model T . . . Given my backward notions, if I were going to build a "Model T Garage", and were left to my own devices (as opposed to being told by the city/county/state what I am permitted to build) I'd probably build it with a wooden floor like so many early garages were built. I'd also probably use a lot of rough cut lumber - I hold plywood (handy though it is) in a class with Philips-head screws, and have a native dislike for both . . .

Right now wouldn't be a bad time to start a project for an owner-built frame structure. Lumber is currently "down", around $400. per thousand board feet, as opposed to last spring's high of over $800.
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Re: Garage Space

Post by Poppie » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:12 pm

Hey Rich.
Interesting reply, we have nearly the same problem here. Could you please explain the board feet pricing of your timber. Regards. ...N


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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Hi Neil, I know lumber prices vary widely across the country, but as with most commodities, Nasdaq posts the market spot-price of timber, based on a thousand-board-foot unit. I'm not knowledgeable as to whether that is the value of finished lumber, but the market does affect the price of a 2x4" at your local lumber yard. I guess in Australia, much would depend on differences between the native timber industry and imported construction grade lumber. A board foot is a cubic volume measure, one square foot by one inch thick. An eight-foot 2x4" is 5.33 board-feet. (2x4x96 divided by 144)
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Re: Garage Space

Post by Ruxstel24 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:04 pm

F : Another load of snow ready for delivery... :lol:


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Re: Garage Space

Post by Dallas Landers » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:10 pm

Need to repair the defroster.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:54 pm

...much depends on whether your local building nazis (I mean inspectors and codes) would permit you to build an economical wooden structure yourself.

Fortunately the only inspection here is to verify that you're not in a flood plain. After that you're on your own. I could construct a building out of mashed potatoes and nobody would care. One of many reasons I'm glad not to live in town.
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Post by otrcman » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:31 pm

Not enough garage space ?

When I retired, we relocated and bought a bare piece of land to build our "dream home". The construction included a generous 3-car garage and then a separate 40X50 shop building. I was pretty sure it would be sufficient.

But what I didn't count on was people seeing all my space and wanting to store something (just for a little while, yeah right) or work on a project using my equipment. It took me several years of gentle and not-so-gentle hints to convince people that all that "empty space" was my maneuvering room, where I could bring in one of the daily drivers to change the oil, or move an object out into the middle of the empty space to do paint spraying, or any the many other projects that I built the shop to do.

In several cases, my only option was to complete the project myself and deliver it back to the person who brought it in.

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Post by NHUSA » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 pm

I don't have a space problem in my garage.
There is no space to have a problem with!
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Post by varmint » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:09 pm

@ James Fisher
What year is your Model T addition?
We want to see pics please!
(Hope there is no one with barn humour inhibition.)
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Post by Jim_PTC_GA » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:23 pm

Vernon I have a 24 done and running, I've got a 25/27 stretched from one end of the shop to the other and am hoping to have it running this summer. Then hidden in a barn in GA is a 27 coupe complete, waiting on resurection. I'd love to bring the barn here too but I live in an area where the garage has to match the house and a ton of other restrictions. I'm lucky my neighbors tolerate the bit of grinding and hammering I do.
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Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:30 pm

Rich

I had to smile at your jab at inspectors. When we were looking for a house here, we found that every living soul here thought they were a contractor. One home we looked at had an enormous family room. The ceiling was held up by a 6x6 beam: Three 8' sections of lumber, lap jointed (SIDEWAYS!!) and held together with 1 bolt in each lap. The ceiling sagged significantly. Walking across the floor, miraculously showed the floor and ceiling were a constant distance from each other. It was like living in a salad bowl. The basement had a single Lally post in the center of the floor to conveniently lower the floor above to remain a constant distance from the ever-sagging ceiling. It would be a perfect place to raise kids: When they got tired and fell asleep, they couldn't help but migrate to the center of the room where they could be conveniently found. Until the ceiling collapsed.

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Post by Erik Barrett » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:45 pm

Think vertically.
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