For TT Lovers

[Rich Bingham]

Sharp eyes may be able to tell if this is a TT or a truck conversion. Perhaps the year of the plate, photo noted as being an Idaho scene. That plucky little T has a huge load on, kids and all, looks like it's got an additional 2hp up front to help with it.

[John Warren]

What a load, they must have needed the extra hp. Thanks for posting.

[Steve Jelf]

That's why so many TT's have broken springs. Usually it's the top or second leaves that are hidden by the frame. I bet a lot of TT owners have broken spring leaves and don't know it.

[Rich Bingham]

I'm sure you're right, Steve. Probably happens even when the hitch point is around the frame member as it is in this old photo. Many Ts got "help" hitched around the axle.

[Rich Eagle]

No sharp eyes here. I don't see evidence of a chain or sprocket so I would vote for a worm drive. As for the plate, it's has apparently saved the Ford script on the radiator from a lot of damage. At first look I thought it might be a '28 potato plate. My best guess is a 1930. That is the only year IDAHO appeared lower right as I think the photo shows. The radiator looks like a low one putting the car at '22 or earlier. A well maintained TT could be still working in the '30s.

As for the kids atop the load, today's safety critics and mothers of those old days might object but what fun it would be.
It is a fun photo.
Thanks
Rich

[Hap_Tucker]

I wish we had a couple of different photos showing more of the vehicle and what appears to be a trailer attached to it.

Note that it has an above the axle wishbone shown below:

If that front wishbone was original to the vehicle it would most likely have been before Apr 14, 1919. Ref: https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc19.htm

APR 14, 1919 Acc. 235, Box 39, #385, Ford Archives
"From this date two distinct designs of front radius rods, together with front spring perches, right and left, one on the Model T and the other on Model TT.
"The Model TT design will be assembled beneath the axle, instead of above the axle through the spring perch as heretofore.
"Although it would be possible to use the Model T design on the Model TT, we request this be resorted to only in case of a shortage serious enough to threaten loss of production."

Note that the brake rod appears to go above the rear axle rather than below the rear axle:

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The brake rod for the car goes above the rear axle (ref -- take a look at your T (yes, I had to look)) .

The brake rod for the Ford Ton Truck with the worm gear rear axle goes below the rear axle:

Or course that may not be the brake rod in the photo, but maybe it is something else? If someone with a Ton Truck can look at their truck from a similar angle -- they can probably tell us if that is a brake rod or if it is something else.

Note there were a few "Make your T car into a Ton Truck Kits that did NOT use the Chain drive."

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(Above photo originally posted by Stan Howe around Dec 2015)

Note the rear wheel hub cap in the original photo looks smaller than the hubcap on the Jewett rear wheel. Perhaps a different style rear axle?

Great photo -- and someone with sharper eyes may be able to tell additional details that would clear it up one way or another (or add yet another possibility?).

Respectfully submitted,

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