***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
User avatar

Topic author
VowellArt
Posts: 579
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:44 am
First Name: Martynn
Last Name: Vowell
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1922 Touring, th "Lady"
Location: Sylmar, Commiefornia
Board Member Since: 2012
Contact:

***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by VowellArt » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:07 pm

I'm pretty sure this is correct, but I thought I'd run past you guys just to make sure. ;)

1919-1925HogsHeadAssembly.jpg
Fun never quits!


John kuehn
Posts: 4433
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 19 Roadster, 21 Touring, 24 Coupe
Location: Texas

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by John kuehn » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:58 pm

Not that it’s makes a lot of difference but I think Ford added a small raised ridge just under the front of the transmission cover opening. You can’t see it from the outside but only from underneath. It was supposed to help the oil go over the drums a little better. Seems like there were a few other changes here and there but hardly noticeable. Read it somewhere years ago in a history of Fords transmission covers for the Model T.
Only a real perfectionist would want to get the right cover in that era your showing. And by the way your rendition looks great as all of your drawings do! I’m sure there are more knowledgeable folks on the forum would know for sure when the ridge appeared and what year.


Allan
Posts: 6609
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm
First Name: Allan
Last Name: Bennett
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1912 van, 1917 shooting brake, 1929 roadster buckboard, 1924 tourer, 1925 barn find buckboard, 1925 D &F wide body roadster, 1927LHD Tudor sedan.
Location: Gawler, Australia

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by Allan » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:08 pm

Martynn, I don't know about USA production, but on these later covers the clutch fork shaft was a one piece forging, Rather than having the cross piece riveted on.
Allan from down under.

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3813
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by DanTreace » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:24 pm

View of later clutch release
Permatex 2 on all surface and over felt circle.jpg
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3813
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by DanTreace » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:30 pm

John

Yes a little 'flipper'' in the casting was added in 1924, but really isn't needed to be drawn in this sketch.



IMG_2571.JPG
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford


John kuehn
Posts: 4433
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 19 Roadster, 21 Touring, 24 Coupe
Location: Texas

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by John kuehn » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:30 pm

Thanks Dan for the update when the ridge was added and no it isn’t needed in the sketch.
It’s a little add on that Ford added that maybe didn’t really work or not much after all. I have a 24 Coupe and I really can’t remember if it had the ridge but maybe I could reach under the opening and see if I could feel it. Don’t really feel like removing the cover to check it. :D

User avatar

Topic author
VowellArt
Posts: 579
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:44 am
First Name: Martynn
Last Name: Vowell
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1922 Touring, th "Lady"
Location: Sylmar, Commiefornia
Board Member Since: 2012
Contact:

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by VowellArt » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 am

Allan I thought something was off, but couldn't see it...it's like that sometimes, I don't see the obvious because I've been looking at it for so long...which is why I post things here, so you guys can correct my oversights.

John, I know about that little vane, the engine in my 22 is a 24 and it has that little vane just under the top of the inspection door opening. But since it is on the under surface on the downward slope of the opening, you'd never see it unless I broke a section out to show it. But I'm just not sure it is really necessary.

1919-1925HogsHeadAssembly.jpg
Fun never quits!


Original Smith
Posts: 3699
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:43 am
First Name: Larry
Last Name: Smith
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 13 Touring, 13 Roadster, 17 Coupelet, 25 Roadster P/U
Location: Lomita, California
MTFCA Life Member: YES

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by Original Smith » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:54 am

A little research is needed before posting these illustrations! The 1924 hogsheads are indeed different!

User avatar

Topic author
VowellArt
Posts: 579
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:44 am
First Name: Martynn
Last Name: Vowell
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1922 Touring, th "Lady"
Location: Sylmar, Commiefornia
Board Member Since: 2012
Contact:

Re: ***1919-1925 Hogshead Assembly***

Post by VowellArt » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:18 am

Well Larry, that's why I'm here. I know what a 24 looks like, but the rest of them, not so much. I'm depending upon the folks here to steer me straight as to what the differences are, because I don't know. And everything I get off the internet usually only shows the top side (none too clearly), if and when I can find one shown. The 14's I've got the drawings for, but everything else....I'm sort of out to sea on. What differences do you know about these hogsheads? I'd really like to know and of course I'd incorporate them into the drawings. :)
Fun never quits!

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic