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Partial repairs lacking

Post by DanTreace » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:17 pm

Checking out another T and spotted a few things amuck. The timer lever was catching, and had a lot of play......seems the easy way was just to fit the rod in, no cotter :(

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And the sticking was this one timer terminal stuck on a tall bolt, not the way to do this :cry:

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Of course the steering had to be checked out, loose pitman arm, and no cotter in nut or the cap nuts :|

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Re: Partial repairs lacking

Post by Norman Kling » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:24 pm

That bolt at the front of the crankcase should be turned over with the nut at the bottom. The wire should not go over the timer rod, and I have never seen a timer like that. All the ones I have seen have a hole which lines up with the end of the rod which is bent and a cotter pin is placed in the rod. It looks as though when you try to advance the spark the rod would just slide in that loop. I would suggest you go through the entire drive train to be sure all the cotter pins are in place and also the safety wires.
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Re: Partial repairs lacking

Post by DanTreace » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:16 pm

Norm



That timer case is the rather common 'Tiger' timer, made as repo for many years, its like a Ford roller, but cheaper case. The bent over tab has hole to retain the timer rod. But in this T, the repair guy cheated and just slipped the rod into the loop. ;)


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And yes, lots of checking to do on this T!
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Re: Partial repairs lacking

Post by Alan Long » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:00 am

Sadly this car needs a lot more love, check over and “attention to detail” by someone who knows what’s going on !!
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Re: Partial repairs lacking

Post by Channel1tv » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:38 am

It is funny how just the little mistakes in past repairs add up to a big mess. I have never and I mean NEVER had a single vehicle that did not have the birds nest of issues from years of neglect or shade tree repairs. Maybe its is just me but I always just expect a top to bottom maintenance on every car I buy. I just had to make a new timer rod for the speedster from 3/16 rod. That bolt is upside down for sure! The timer rod needs the rod in the hole of the timer hole. I have drilled 2 holes in the rods to sandwich the timer hole on both sides with some washers to give it ridged support.
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