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Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Jack Tarlinton » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:25 pm

Hi all,

I'm a newby in Australia so while I've had my head in deep research for 6 months I am compelled to ask what some may deem as stupid questions...

I bought a 26 touring cutoff as a pile of completely disassembled parts. Probably 4-5 different cars in the body alone.

The assembly of the chassis and body is progressing well, and I am now starting to plan the drivetrain build for next year.

The pile of Model T stuff came with a 4 dip pan, plus a seperate, 1923 engine with no pan (recently running) and no auxiliaries. I

There is no transmission.

The fellow I bought the car from says he has found the RHD hogshead.

My questions are:

1: Can I use the 23 engine on the 4 dip pan?

2: If the hogshead turns out to be a 26/27 version, can I use it on the earlier block?

Thanks everyone

Jack


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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Kerry » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:44 pm

No 1, yes.
No 2, only if you use the 26/7 wide brake drum transmission.


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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Jack Tarlinton » Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:27 pm

Kerry wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:44 pm
No 1, yes.
No 2, only if you use the 26/7 wide brake drum transmission.
Thank you Kerry, good to know I can use the 23.

Better to ask stupid questions than do stupid things!

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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by John E. Guitar » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:58 pm

Jack,

If you can find a 26-27 engine that would be a better option than the 23.

Whereabouts in Sydney are you?

John


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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Jack Tarlinton » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:46 am

John E. Guitar wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:58 pm
Jack,

If you can find a 26-27 engine that would be a better option than the 23.

Whereabouts in Sydney are you?

John
Hi John,

I'm in the Sutherland area.

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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Henry K. Lee » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:05 pm

You have to grind off the rear ears on a 26/27 hogs head that were meant to attach up high on the rear of the block. Use the re-enforcement plates from the bottom of the oil pan that join the hogs head and block together. Been doing it for about 40 years with no ill effects!

This mod is for when using a large drum transmission with an early block.


Hank

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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by John E. Guitar » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:10 pm

Have you considered joining the NSW Model T Club? There might be someone in the club who has a 26/27 engine they could sell you.

I'm in the Parramatta area. I've got a 26 Tourer and a 24 Tudor you're welcome to have look at once the lockdown eases up.

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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Mark Gregush » Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:58 pm

Henry K. Lee wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:05 pm
You have to grind off the rear ears on a 26/27 hogs head that were meant to attach up high on the rear of the block. Use the re-enforcement plates from the bottom of the oil pan that join the hogs head and block together. Been doing it for about 40 years with no ill effects!

This mod is for when using a large drum transmission with an early block.


Hank
My 1925 with 4 dip pan came with those. Don't know if they were added or factory.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1948 Ford F2 pickup


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Re: Question regarding engine parts compatibility

Post by Jack Tarlinton » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:33 am

John E. Guitar wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:10 pm
Have you considered joining the NSW Model T Club? There might be someone in the club who has a 26/27 engine they could sell you.

I'm in the Parramatta area. I've got a 26 Tourer and a 24 Tudor you're welcome to have look at once the lockdown eases up.
Hi John,

Yes, absolutely considered joining the club - just waiting for this recent lockdown to finish before I send off my application. I am already in contact with several members who've been helping me find parts.

And thank you for your offer of a visit, I would love to come and see your cars. Let's stay in contact!

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