Look normal?

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
User avatar

Topic author
JBog
Posts: 287
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:42 pm
First Name: Jason
Last Name: Bogstie
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Touring
Location: Cheyenne, WY
Board Member Since: 2019
Contact:

Look normal?

Post by JBog » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:37 pm

Cleaned up the engine to get ready for my Z head. Does everything look okay? I've never had my engine's head off before. Looks like some overhauled the engine at least before I got it.
Attachments
IMG_20211010_144434_291.jpg
IMG_20211010_144434_319.jpg
IMG_20211010_144434_254.jpg


Jerry VanOoteghem
Posts: 4082
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:06 pm
First Name: Jerry
Last Name: Van
Location: S.E. Michigan

Re: Look normal?

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pm

Looks like new pistons in old bores. By "old bores", I mean they do not look freshly honed as you would expect to see with new pistons. Do they look like new because you cleaned them up so well, or did they look like this when you removed the head? Have you ever run this engine?

User avatar

Mark Chaffin
Posts: 4343
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:11 pm
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Chaffin
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1911 Speedster, 1927 Lake Roadster
Location: Lake Elsinore
Board Member Since: 2001

Re: Look normal?

Post by Mark Chaffin » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:41 pm

Looks pretty good. Don't forget to clean out all the head bolt holes with a bottoming tap and air real good before assembly. :)

User avatar

Topic author
JBog
Posts: 287
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:42 pm
First Name: Jason
Last Name: Bogstie
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Touring
Location: Cheyenne, WY
Board Member Since: 2019
Contact:

Re: Look normal?

Post by JBog » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:05 pm

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pm
Looks like new pistons in old bores. By "old bores", I mean they do not look freshly honed as you would expect to see with new pistons. Do they look like new because you cleaned them up so well, or did they look like this when you removed the head? Have you ever run this engine?
Yea, I've ran this engine as long as I've had the T, about 7 months. Here's some pics of what it looked like when I took the head off.
Attachments
PXL_20211001_210227296~2.jpg
PXL_20211001_210234976~2.jpg

User avatar

Topic author
JBog
Posts: 287
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:42 pm
First Name: Jason
Last Name: Bogstie
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919 Touring
Location: Cheyenne, WY
Board Member Since: 2019
Contact:

Re: Look normal?

Post by JBog » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:06 pm

Mark Chaffin wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:41 pm
Looks pretty good. Don't forget to clean out all the head bolt holes with a bottoming tap and air real good before assembly. :)
Thanks! What size bottoming tap?


Allan
Posts: 6609
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm
First Name: Allan
Last Name: Bennett
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1912 van, 1917 shooting brake, 1929 roadster buckboard, 1924 tourer, 1925 barn find buckboard, 1925 D &F wide body roadster, 1927LHD Tudor sedan.
Location: Gawler, Australia

Re: Look normal?

Post by Allan » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:11 pm

You also have replacement one piece valves, so someone has definitely been in there before you. It looks good to go.
The tap size for the head bolt holes is 7/16" UNC.

Allan from down under.

User avatar

Henry K. Lee
Posts: 5474
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:09 am
First Name: Henry
Last Name: Lee
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Many
Location: South Pittsburg, TN
MTFCA Life Member: YES

Re: Look normal?

Post by Henry K. Lee » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:13 pm

7/16" X 14 NC thread.

User avatar

RajoRacer
Posts: 5172
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:18 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Tomaso
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 Touring, 1919 Centerdoor, 1924 TT C-Cab Express, 1925 Racer
Location: Longbranch, WA
Board Member Since: 2001

Re: Look normal?

Post by RajoRacer » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:53 pm

Get yourself one of these - Woodson tooling.
Attachments
head bolt clean-out tap.jpg

User avatar

JTT3
Posts: 1855
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:57 am
First Name: John
Last Name: Tannehill
Location: Hot Coffee, MS

Re: Look normal?

Post by JTT3 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:55 pm

Hank my man, correct as usual!

User avatar

mbowen
Posts: 420
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:45 pm
First Name: Miles
Last Name: Bowen
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 Express Wagon, 1924 Touring
Location: Brighton, MI
Board Member Since: 2021

Re: Look normal?

Post by mbowen » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:00 pm

JBog wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:06 pm
Mark Chaffin wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:41 pm
Looks pretty good. Don't forget to clean out all the head bolt holes with a bottoming tap and air real good before assembly. :)
Thanks! What size bottoming tap?
I just did mine today. I started with a standard tap, followed by a bottoming tap, then a 7/16 bronze bore brush. The bore brush got a noticeable of carbon even after the taps.
Miles
1924 Touring “Bonnie”
1925 Express Wagon “Clyde”

User avatar

Mark Gregush
Posts: 5370
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Gregush
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 cutdown PU, 1948 F2 Ford flat head 6 pickup 3 speed
Location: Portland Or
Board Member Since: 1999

Re: Look normal?

Post by Mark Gregush » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:20 am

Just using a bottoming tap will not clean out the compacted carbon and guck at the bottom. The tap will do a great job of compacting it even more. I use a drill smaller than the diameter of the hole and gently break up what is in the bottom. Don't force it, or you will need to seal the bolt threads when you go through the bottom of the hole into the water jacket. Done both by hand or with drill motor running slow. Then vacuum out the leavings.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1948 Ford F2 pickup

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic