Quality time!
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
-
Topic author - Posts: 2825
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
- First Name: Dallas
- Last Name: Landers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
- Location: N.E. Indiana
Quality time!
I spent some quality time with my kelsey wheels tonight.
1st with a broken pickle jar for a scraper. Then soda blasted the spokes. After that the sand paper. The one on the left has the spokes sanded. The one on the right is soda blasted.
Broken plate glass works better for scraping but the wife said we needed all the windows in the house. Dont forget the leather gloves if you try this at home!-
Topic author - Posts: 2825
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
- First Name: Dallas
- Last Name: Landers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
- Location: N.E. Indiana
Re: Quality time!
Almost forgot to show what they looked like before
-
- Posts: 1559
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:16 am
- First Name: Don
- Last Name: Allen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1924 Touring
- Location: Houston, TX
-
- Posts: 2345
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:25 am
- First Name: Dave
- Last Name: Hanlon
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Touring car
- Location: NE Ohio
- Board Member Since: 2018
Re: Quality time!
I hope you ate all the pickles before you broke the jar
Looks good, painting black or au natural ?

Looks good, painting black or au natural ?
-
Topic author - Posts: 2825
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
- First Name: Dallas
- Last Name: Landers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
- Location: N.E. Indiana
Re: Quality time!
BLACK!
Now to figure out what shade of black.
Now to figure out what shade of black.

-
- Posts: 1127
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:36 pm
- First Name: Adrian
- Last Name: Whiteman
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 TT, 1923 Colonial Roadster, 1924 'Bullnose' Morris, 1925 'Bullnose' Morris, 1936 JD AR
- Location: South Island, New Zealand
Re: Quality time!
Ummm, black maybe 

-
- Posts: 2345
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:25 am
- First Name: Dave
- Last Name: Hanlon
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Touring car
- Location: NE Ohio
- Board Member Since: 2018
Re: Quality time!
Black is beautiful !!
I would go with the extra super dark black, black. None of that "imitation black"

I would go with the extra super dark black, black. None of that "imitation black"

-
- Posts: 6610
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm
- First Name: Allan
- Last Name: Bennett
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1912 van, 1917 shooting brake, 1929 roadster buckboard, 1924 tourer, 1925 barn find buckboard, 1925 D &F wide body roadster, 1927LHD Tudor sedan.
- Location: Gawler, Australia
Re: Quality time!
Dave, have you the formula for that black? If you go to an auto paint supplier, you will find there are numerous blacks, and then there are metallic blacks too. It just goes to show all blacks are nor the same.
Allan from down under.
Allan from down under.
-
- Posts: 7238
- Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
- First Name: Steve
- Last Name: Jelf
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
- Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
- Board Member Since: 2007
- Contact:
-
- Posts: 141
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:35 pm
- First Name: Peter
- Last Name: McIntyre
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1913 Speedster
- Location: Aylmer,Ontario
Re: Quality time!
Black is black and any deviation from this is not black Black should be purchased as packaged goods,right off the shelf. If your paint supplier has to mix the paint to a formula you are not getting black paint but a variation of black which is not a true black. Cheers pete
-
Topic author - Posts: 2825
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
- First Name: Dallas
- Last Name: Landers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
- Location: N.E. Indiana
Re: Quality time!
Thanks for the chart Steve! I think the 1923 " really really black" is what I will go with. 

-
- Posts: 2345
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:25 am
- First Name: Dave
- Last Name: Hanlon
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Touring car
- Location: NE Ohio
- Board Member Since: 2018
Re: Quality time!
Good choice Dallas
As a former body/paint guy, I know black is a little different from one to another in modern times. Rustoleum for one doesn't match the hood where I painted the radiator shell...looks a little grey to me. Matching auto colors is an art. Generally black is black, unless two panels are side by side.
You would not think so, but white is one of the hardest colors to match, right up there with silver.
Love the paint chip chart, Steve

As a former body/paint guy, I know black is a little different from one to another in modern times. Rustoleum for one doesn't match the hood where I painted the radiator shell...looks a little grey to me. Matching auto colors is an art. Generally black is black, unless two panels are side by side.
You would not think so, but white is one of the hardest colors to match, right up there with silver.
Love the paint chip chart, Steve

-
- Posts: 1553
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:28 pm
- First Name: Duane
- Last Name: Cooley
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 18 Runabout, 24 Runabout for 20yrs, 25 TT, late Center Door project, open express pickup
- Location: central MN
- Board Member Since: 2015
Re: Quality time!
Way back in my day, we used 1923's really really black to clean out any red paint used in the Graco (Minnesota built!) 30-1 pumps and high pressure lines that fed paint to the guns in the booth at work. 125 psi at the line, 3500 plus psi at the gun.
That 1923 really really black is awfully close to the spoke color that was left OFF of the wheels on the 18 that lives here.
After 30-40 years they're gorgeous, semi-dark, warm natural spokes.
Oops. Wrong forum for some of that.
True for the tech info hidden beneath 'tho, IF you can swallow it.
Dallas, would you show us before and after pics when you have it done?
Thanks.
That 1923 really really black is awfully close to the spoke color that was left OFF of the wheels on the 18 that lives here.
After 30-40 years they're gorgeous, semi-dark, warm natural spokes.
Oops. Wrong forum for some of that.

True for the tech info hidden beneath 'tho, IF you can swallow it.
Dallas, would you show us before and after pics when you have it done?
Thanks.

Since I lost my mind mind, I feel more liberated
-
Topic author - Posts: 2825
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
- First Name: Dallas
- Last Name: Landers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
- Location: N.E. Indiana
Re: Quality time!
Hubs are primed and ready for paint. New race and bearings are here. Back ordered one dust seal.

-
- Posts: 1559
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:16 am
- First Name: Don
- Last Name: Allen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1924 Touring
- Location: Houston, TX
Re: Quality time!
The 1923 Really, Really Black looks nice.
So many people go with the 1924 Henry's favorite. I think they're just trying to show off.
So many people go with the 1924 Henry's favorite. I think they're just trying to show off.
1924 Touring
-
Topic author - Posts: 2825
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
- First Name: Dallas
- Last Name: Landers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
- Location: N.E. Indiana
Re: Quality time!
I agree Dave. That original paint was tuff. I could tell which was the top and bottom when it was put on. The bottom was real thick and hard to blast off but the top was much easier. About one pass on the top and it was gone.