1926 Transmission Pedal Spacing

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1926 Transmission Pedal Spacing

Post by BarnesvilleT » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:23 pm

When I found my 26 Model T and checked the serial numbers, I found that the engine was a 1922 build.
I was able to acquire a block with serial number for 1926 but it will be for a backup engine.
During the teardown I noticed that the pedal trim plate had been cut up and a new slot was
cut for the C pedal and the original left slot was empty. AT the time I had no clue why. Now I know.
I purchased a new pedal trim for 1926/27 and the C pedal slot is spaced farther away and the
C pedal on my transmission will not line up. Is it possible to put a different C pedal unit in the
existing transmission so it will align with the new trim plate. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: 1926 Transmission Pedal Spacing

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:42 pm

From an earlier discussion about the same issue https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/5 ... 1216478530
 By Keith Townsend, Gresham, Orygun on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 01:06 am:
I know the pedal spacing on the 26-27 T is wider than the earlier cars, but how? Is the difference in just the pedals, or is the hogshead different?
If earlier type pedals are put on a 26-27 hogshead, will the pedal spacing and positions be the same as the earlier models?

By Otto Baron on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 01:48 am:
My first model T, was a 1920, with a post 26 replacement engine. The left pedals chewed into the cardboard cowl lining. I later replaced the left and right peadal, with those correct for a 1920, and solved the problem. The replacement pedals worked out just fine.

By Thomas J. Miller "Tom" on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 06:07 am:
26-7 pedals are very different. The low speed and brake have a larger offset section to space them out further. Reverse stays the same. You can fit early pedals to a late hogshead or vice versa and you will maintain the correct spacing.
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Re: 1926 Transmission Pedal Spacing

Post by speedytinc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:43 pm

Yes it is possible to change out the pedal.
Its not clear what C pedal you have. 26-7 clutch & brake pedals have a wider more foot friendly pedal top and the clutch pedal is spaced further left. You need the later pedals. Late pedals can be put in an earlier HH or you can replace the whole HH with a 26-7 unit. However, the engine block mounting ears must be modified (cut off or severely ground) to fit a 22 block.


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Re: 1926 Transmission Pedal Spacing

Post by BarnesvilleT » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:31 pm

Thanks for info. I will start looking for some new pedals units.


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Re: 1926 Transmission Pedal Spacing

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:38 pm

You can also get in trouble with the high gear link on the other end of that 1919 to 1925 clutch pedal, if you upgrade an early engine with a transmission cover that has provisions for a starter.

I just upgraded a never starter 1917 to a 1920 starter transmission cover.

The 3440 Part Number in the Ford Catalogs are the same and the photo is the same from the oldest catalog I have with photos, a November 1920.

The starter and Bendix was installed and functioned properly with a test run, without the cover, but that lower clutch link was hitting the Bendix spring and there was no slack for the cover.

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