New-ish guy

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
DarkLeftArm
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:48 pm
First Name: BERT
Last Name: SHETLER
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Touring (registered as '25)
Location: Tucson AZ

New-ish guy

Post by DarkLeftArm » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:36 pm

Hi all.
I've been lurking here for a while now, reading and learning.
I inherited a '25 Touring car back in 1999 when my dad passed away. He had bought it as a retirement project, then burned out on it before he even retired, leaving it driveable, but only partially assembled. All the parts are there, I just need to figure out where they all go!
Anyway, My dad's birthday was in 1925, the same as his car, so I intend to have it painted, assembled and go for a drive on my dad's 100th birthday next October.
I'll probably be checking in for advice once in awhile over the next year or so.
Wish me luck!
20240403_194724.jpg

User avatar

JTT3
Posts: 1855
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:57 am
First Name: John
Last Name: Tannehill
Location: Hot Coffee, MS

Re: New-ish guy

Post by JTT3 » Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:07 am

You’ve come to the right place, heck you’ll be treated so many different ways you’re sure to like one. Congrats on making the goal a priority, you’ll probably have another T sooner than you think. Nice looking 1926 Touring those sweet running T’s. Best John


Norman Kling
Posts: 4634
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm
First Name: Norman
Last Name: Kling
Location: Alpine California

Re: New-ish guy

Post by Norman Kling » Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:01 am

Looks like a 1926. They came out the fall of the year so it might have been a very early one. Looks like almost all there except the reflectors and lenses for the head lights and upholstery and top. Hopefully the fuel system has been drained because old gas turns to varnish. So everything from the tank Sediment bowl fuel line and carburetor needs to be checked out and cleaned if necessary. Also need some oil in the cylinders. I would put about one teaspoon of oil in each cylinder and crank it over a few times to get the oil in the rings and cylinders. Anyway, have fun.
Norm


Kerry
Posts: 1447
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:42 pm
First Name: Frank
Last Name: van Ekeren
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1916 touring, 1916 pick-up, 1924 coupe, 1926 touring, 1927 touring
Location: Rosedale Vic Australia

Re: New-ish guy

Post by Kerry » Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:30 am

Best to explain why the others are saying 26 model, Ford worked close to fiscal years for model release, your dad called it a 25 because yours would have been built in 1925, the head lights mounted on the fenders was on the first of the 1926 model year.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 7237
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: New-ish guy

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:15 am

Other clues pointing towards a 1926 model year are wire wheels and the engine-mounted coil box. Before the 26-27 models, wire wheels were an after-market purchase not supplied by Ford. In getting the car ready to drive, this may help: https://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG93.html
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

TWrenn
Posts: 3743
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:53 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Wrenn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '13 Touring, '26 "Overlap" Fordor
Location: Ohio
Board Member Since: 2019

Re: New-ish guy

Post by TWrenn » Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:59 am

The curved bottom edge of the windshield tells the story. '26, and early '26 at that due to not having the cross-bar from fender to fender at the headlamps. My Fordor was inadvertently titled a '25 for similar reason but I took it to the BMV inspector with documents to show it shoulda been retitled a '26. It doesn't have the crossbar either and is a very very early '26. Got it approved with no problem and didn't cost anything for that either!

User avatar

Mopar_man
Posts: 1152
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:24 pm
First Name: Robert
Last Name: Govoni
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Touring
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Board Member Since: 2016

Re: New-ish guy

Post by Mopar_man » Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:57 pm

If you want to see what I did with my 1926 you can take a look at

https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9508

I've tried to document everything we did to the car.

Have fun, try not to get frustrated and ask lots of questions.

User avatar

Oldav8tor
Posts: 2246
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:39 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Juhl
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1917 Touring
Location: Thumb of Michigan
Board Member Since: 2018

Re: New-ish guy

Post by Oldav8tor » Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:23 pm

Welcome to the world of crazy car guys, Bert. You'll find a lot of help on the forum and I suspect there are a few fellows that live close enough to you that would be glad to offer advice and help. If you check the MTFCA website you'll see there are some chapters around Phoenix who could point you in the right direction. Good luck with your project!
1917 Touring
1946 Aeronca Champ
1952 Willys M38a1 Jeep (sold 2023)
1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor


Luke
Posts: 617
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:04 am
First Name: Luke
Last Name: P
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926
Location: New Zealand

Re: New-ish guy

Post by Luke » Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:37 pm

Bert,

Looking at some of well-meaning posts above I was thinking that the year of manufacture may be confusing.

Given it's likely a 1926 Model Year, and if it interests you, we can probably do better than just the year. On the top of the RHS chassis rail close to the passengers footwell there may be a serial number. If you were to find and post that here it's likely we could give you a month and closeby day the vehicle was manufactured.

If you post the engine serial number we'll be able to do the same thing, no guarantee it's the original motor of course but it may be of some use.

All the best with your endeavours, it's a laudable goal you have.

Luke.

User avatar

TRDxB2
Posts: 6261
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
First Name: Frank
Last Name: Brandi
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedsters (1919 w 1926 upgrades), 1926 (Ricardo Head)
Location: Moline IL
Board Member Since: 2018

Re: New-ish guy

Post by TRDxB2 » Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:48 pm

DarkLeftArm wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:36 pm
Hi all.
I've been lurking here for a while now, reading and learning.
I inherited a '25 Touring car back in 1999 when my dad passed away. He had bought it as a retirement project, then burned out on it before he even retired, leaving it driveable, but only partially assembled. All the parts are there, I just need to figure out where they all go!
Anyway, My dad's birthday was in 1925, the same as his car, so I intend to have it painted, assembled and go for a drive on my dad's 100th birthday next October.
I'll probably be checking in for advice once in awhile over the next year or so.
Wish me luck!20240403_194724.jpg
Regardless of what
-the engine serial number is (not to be used to date the car https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/sernos.htm)
-the body parts identify to
-the chassis number indicates
-what the title indicates
-the options it has
It will always be your Dad's 1925 Touring
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger

User avatar

A Whiteman
Posts: 1125
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:36 pm
First Name: Adrian
Last Name: Whiteman
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 TT, 1923 Colonial Roadster, 1924 'Bullnose' Morris, 1925 'Bullnose' Morris, 1936 JD AR
Location: South Island, New Zealand

Re: New-ish guy

Post by A Whiteman » Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:02 pm

It will always be your Dad's 1925 Touring
And so it should be :-)

Welcome to the hobby and trust you enjoy getting out and driving as well.

All the best,


Topic author
DarkLeftArm
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:48 pm
First Name: BERT
Last Name: SHETLER
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Touring (registered as '25)
Location: Tucson AZ

Re: New-ish guy

Post by DarkLeftArm » Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:34 pm

Thanks for all the support, fellas. Makes me feel very welcome!
Yes, I'm aware that I have a '26 model, but it was first registered in 1925, so its Arizona title says it's a '25.
Like I said, my dad worked on it quite a bit, so he's the one who put on the wire wheels, the wooden ones are still here, albeit a little creaky.
He also had the radiator shell nickel plated, along with the headlight rims and reflectors. He replaced the fuel tank, as the original was rusted out.
I have brand new seat springs, upholstery sets, and a brand new top for it. Also, several boxes of bits and bobs. He bought all this stuff and then never got around to it. For 25 years now, I've considered it a full sized model car just waiting to be put together.
It was probably 5 years after he died that I attempted to turn over the engine, and found that it was locked. It was stored with antifreeze in the cooling system, and I assume there's maybe a weeping head gasket. Anyway, after draining the coolant, I took out the plugs and added marvel mystery oil to the cylinders. Within a few days, it freed up easily. Ever since then, I've left the plugs finger tight, and about annually, I give each hole a squirt of motor oil, and then turn over the engine a few times, and it always feels good. Hopefully there's not enough damage to the combustion chambers to cause smoking or compression loss.
He bought it in about 1984 from a guy that he worked with, who found it out in the desert with a fair sized tree growing up through the floor. I guess they had to cut down the tree to move it. That guy had already done a fair amount of work, having the engine overhauled, he said, and getting it running. I have great memories of helping my old man get it home, and helping him work on it. Also fun memories of Daddy teaching me how to drive it. I very nearly crashed it on my first attempt, as I'm a professional truck driver, and my clutch foot simply would NOT release the pressure on the pedal on the left, while approaching a stop sign at a busy intersection! :shock:
Luckily the brakes worked well enough to stall it. Whew.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble down memory lane. Although, I suppose that's what these flivvers are all about.
I feel like I've found the right place here, and once again, thank you all.

User avatar

George House
Posts: 2814
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:25 pm
First Name: George
Last Name: House
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘10 Maxwell AA, ‘11Hupp Model 20, Two 1914 Ford runabouts, 19 centerdoor, 25 C Cab,26 roadster
Location: Northern Caldwell County TX
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 1999

Re: New-ish guy

Post by George House » Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:51 pm

Howdy Bert, … Loved the history and provenance of your family’s acquisition of your touring ! Do you know my Model T friend Don Vagaske there in Tucson? Hes real friendly and might be helpful. Anyway, welcome to the crazy fun of these wonderful old cars. Questions ??
Ask away !!
A Fine is a Tax for Doing Something Wrong….A Tax is a Fine for Doing Something RIGHT 🤔


Topic author
DarkLeftArm
Posts: 11
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:48 pm
First Name: BERT
Last Name: SHETLER
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Touring (registered as '25)
Location: Tucson AZ

Re: New-ish guy

Post by DarkLeftArm » Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:39 pm

George House wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:51 pm
Howdy Bert, … Loved the history and provenance of your family’s acquisition of your touring ! Do you know my Model T friend Don Vagaske there in Tucson? Hes real friendly and might be helpful. Anyway, welcome to the crazy fun of these wonderful old cars. Questions ??
Ask away !!
I do not know your friend Don, but I do recognize the club I saw affiliated with the name, "Touring Ts of Tucson". I think my dad might have even been a member back then. It looks like Don lives in Far East Tucson, while I live way out West by Old Tucson Studios.

I also remember a name of one of his friends and supplier of many of the parts he bought, named Arliss Lewis. He owned the last official Studebaker dealership. That guy had forgotten more about old cars than I'll ever hope to know. I would imagine your friend Don remembers him well.

Cheers!

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic