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Transmission Band Lining

Post by Moxie26 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:48 am

Came across this picture of questionable material used for band lining...... Woven textile, kevlar, wood, modern auto trans molded ???????
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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by TWrenn » Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:18 pm

Pretty sure it ain't Kevlar. I'm voting for wood even tho I've never had any experience with wood bands


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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by Kevin Pharis » Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:24 pm

Looks like there might be a faint glimmer of a few copper strands… that would make this Model A brake lining. Word on the street is this stuff is hard on drums. Others may have personal experience…


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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by 23ford » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:03 pm

Looks like caterpillar band lining material that was popular in the 1970's.
Felix Graves promoted this and sold to several people. My 21 RPU is running this


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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by Daisy Mae » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:16 pm

Kevin, same thought, looked like brake band material to me
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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by Moxie26 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:17 am

All three bands as found
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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by jiminbartow » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:35 am

With what appear to be angled saw cuts on the edge, I would guess it is an oil soaked wood band. I don’t think such saw cuts would exist in softer band material. Also, the lack threads or frays indicate it is not any kind of woven material.

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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by TWrenn » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:38 am

Moxie26 wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:17 am
All three bands as found
That brake band looks mighty thin...I'm assuming your plan is to change 'em all out anyway and just wanted to show these first.

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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by jsaylor » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:18 pm

I ran some of that hard bonded lining back in the 60's. Its was hard on the drums. I changed to Kevlar when it came out. I still have the set up on a shelf. I have not had success removing the bonded stuff from the bands.


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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by jiminbartow » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:37 pm

You can probably get a pan big enough to hold all three bands and get a gallon of strong solvent such as MEK, Acetone, or Xylene and pour it over the bands and just let them sit until the linings fall off. Covering the pan to make it as air tight as possible would slow the evaporation of the solvent.

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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:52 pm

Did you do this while checking the bands or was it already that way?
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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by Moxie26 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:58 pm

The picture shows what we saw when the inspection cover was first taken off


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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by speedytinc » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:36 pm

Good catch.
Obviously you need to address the non locking detent situation.


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Re: Transmission Band Lining

Post by Moxie26 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:47 pm

Previous owner did not know about the locked position of band's adjustment

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