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Post by Original Smith » Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:23 pm

Is there any state in America I can still buy Centari paint. I could get it in California until a year ago.


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Re: Paint

Post by mtntee20 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:30 pm

Larry, All I am finding is on eBay. Not real comforting. I liked Centari paint when we were painting our heavy equipment but haven't used it in years.

Terry

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Re: Paint

Post by George Mills » Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:14 pm

Larry,

I use to be real keen professionally on paints and their science but as things now change monthly on paint theory I decided to not use any more neurons on 'chatter' and just trust a local paint guy for whatever is current.

FWIW Centauri was the best single stage of its day. Or was that 'days'. Seems as though there were several generations of Centauri with totally different chemistry as the calendar clicked over the decades.

As a product, it lasted for a while in newer formulations...but had to be dropped as generally and for most colors it contained more '-enes' (the -enes do weird stuff to your body) than most commercial paints...more 'lead' than most water borne paints...and more known straight carcinogens than most wanted to consider. Somewhere there is an OSHA bulletin that states any use of any old stock Centauri requires a NIOSH self-contained breathing apparatus moon-suit with no 'visitors' whatsoever while spraying. (The Imron that followed it as the second coming suffered the same fate)

Maybe rephrase your question? What single stage water borne paint of today is compatible with a previous undercoat of Centauri? I don't know the answer myself...but bet the white hair that hangs at the old body shop does :D

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Re: Paint

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 6:27 pm

For what its worth
The Carlyle Group has completed its acquisition of DuPont Performance Coatings for $4.9 billion and announced today (3 February 2013) that the company is being renamed Axalta Coating Systems. Axalta Coating Systems is a global supplier of coatings to the transportation and industrial sectors. So original cans of paint may be over 12 years old.

The original DuPont formula may have contained harmful chemicals (isocyanates, a relative of cyanide) and required protective gear, likely not used. No idea if Axalta's Centari is as good as Duponts
https://www.axalta.com/content/crmx_eu/ ... namel.html
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Re: Paint

Post by ModelTWoods » Sun Jul 07, 2024 6:38 pm

Larry, and other interested parties, from the internet: "Dupont sold their paint line to a company called AXALTA. They still market CENTARI. The person posting this stated, " I was able to buy 2 gallons of black Centari a few weeks ago." http://www.armacoat.com/products/liquid ... lic-enamal Complete email address didn't print, so here's what didn't print: liquid-coatings/centari-acrylic-enamal (This was posted on the internet, October 18, 2018, so may not be accurate now. I have tried this link. It does not work.


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Re: Paint

Post by Original Smith » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:41 pm

I was able to buy some Axalta a year ago, and was happy, but it is no longer available. Any ideas, hence my post?


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Re: Paint

Post by ModelTWoods » Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:34 pm

Same company does make Imron and it is, according to them, available.


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Re: Paint

Post by Dan McEachern » Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:46 pm

I recently shot some high solids single stage urethane and it applied very much like Centari. I purchased it at a CarQuest Auto parts store. It used an activator at a 3:1 ratio. No reducer required. This stuff is VOC compliant in California. Dries a little slower than Centari but so far, so good.

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