inner seal rear axle removal

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inner seal rear axle removal

Post by Barteldes » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:15 pm

234 Coupe
replacing the inner seal and im having a hard time getting it to come to me. ive tried wire, stiffer wire, my sturdy hook isnt long enough. tried a slim jim and i cant pull it hard enough.... i need something to hook it and is capable of being banged on toward me.....
and why would it be stuck in the first place? its hard to see but i think its the neoprene newer version not felt. . (like the replacement i bought)
thoughts?
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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by Barteldes » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:16 pm

sorry 24 Coupe
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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by RajoRacer » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:33 pm

One needs to remove the bearing sleeve before attempting to remove the seal.

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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by aDave » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:34 pm

Doesn't the bearing sleeve need to be removed before the inner seal can be removed?
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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by DanTreace » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:16 pm

The first step is to remove the Hyatt bearing sleeve. The seal is placed behind it, so once the sleeve is out, use hook tools, long coat hanger or welding rod with a sharp hooked end and pull away the seal.

These pics from the forum by Erick Bruckner shows using a long sheet rock type screw to drill into the seal. In his case the seal was the old leather and metal flange washer type. Once affixed, pull on the screw to remove the seal. Likely could work on the modern neoprene too by screwing into the rubber and metal backing.


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Once had to pull a modern seal out, it was a tanged mess, as the previous owner just pushed it in over the Hyatt bearing sleeve, and it never seated. :shock:
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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by Barteldes » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:54 pm

yes the sleeve is out. i might try the drill a hole and put that screw into it to grab a hold tactic.
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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by DHort » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:32 am

Hopefully the previous owner did not use something like JB weld to keep it in place. Do you have anything long enough you can try to push it out from the other end of the axle?

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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by Craig Leach » Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:41 pm

Hi Bill,
How about using a piece of exhaust tubing a little bigger than the axle to drive the center of the seal in to make it cone shaped, breaking it
loose & giving you a better lip to get ahold of?
Craig.

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Re: inner seal rear axle removal

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:46 am

Could be the previous owner used silicon or hardening type Permatex to glue it in. I put the new style in dry, the neoprene covering should seal against the ring on the inboard side and sleeve holds it tight in place.
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