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There is a boatload of knowledge available through the Forum. I was contacted recently by a new fella to the hobby with some band lining concerns and I responded to assist in letting go of a NOS set of narrow Scandinavia lining - (not from you Kim - they're in the Centerdoor). After agreeing on the way forward, his "motor guy" told him they were the "no good" repops. No skin off my a _ _ but for general knowledge, the originals can still be located & they're all stenciled with "SCANDINAVIA" BUT make sure they're not "musty" smelling or appear to have been mildewed. I've been collecting mostly NOS sets for over 30 years but when CANTEX took over production, they branded the box with a white sticker and all boxes now stated, "Improved Model" even for the 3 narrow linings - they kept the original weave & correct length of 23 & 1/2". Sometime back in the 80's perhaps, the linings got shortened up approx. one inch - IMO - making them too short ! Attached are a few photos of originals just in case the fella's "motor guy" reads this information to perhaps educated himself.
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That's some great information! Why wouldn't you choose a more "on point" subject title for this thread, however? Nonetheless, thank you!
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Because Steve has & is collecting knowledge for reference now & in the future. Ha
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What would you consider "on point", Jerry ?
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Most of the CANTEX bands were a bit cut short. I have set that wasn't. But in any case here is an option that would make them usable. Some interesting thought is they grip like brake linings, since there is less restriction in the 9 o'clock position and provide lubrication top & bottom
https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/2 ... 69410.html
https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/2 ... 69410.html
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Mick Jagger
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Addendum: Apparently, the CANTEX Corp. &/or name was taken over back 20 - 25 years ago and at that time, the weave was changed & the color was near black - often referred to as "tar babies". The box had an inexpensive sticker now & the box itself was quite flimsy. This particular lining because of the weave pattern seemed to absorb oil O.K. but then faded quickly upon use resulting in over-tightening resulting in very premature wear. Being a T mechanic for over 40 years, I cannot recall how many sets of band linings I've replaced for customers over the years.
This is meant to be an informational thread !
This is meant to be an informational thread !
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The bands with the cut in the middle are kevlar bands by appearance. They have been treated on the ends of each piece to prevent fraying. This treatment works well on Kevlar bands, but how to achieve the same on other woven bands deserves consideration.
Allan from down under.
Allan from down under.
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In their post they said they were doing this procedure for 48 years, doesn't that precede the advent of Kevlar bands?Allan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:02 pmThe bands with the cut in the middle are kevlar bands by appearance. They have been treated on the ends of each piece to prevent fraying. This treatment works well on Kevlar bands, but how to achieve the same on other woven bands deserves consideration.
Allan from down under.
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Super glue!!!
Thats how Steve Coniff treated his kevlar bands.
Works very well on cotton linings.
Thats how Steve Coniff treated his kevlar bands.
Works very well on cotton linings.
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Thanks John. It is obvious when you think about it. Super glue also works on moth holes in knitwear! It would be interesting to know what Herm used on band linings 48 years ago.
Allan from down under.
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I believe Herm used Glyptal.
I prefer the better? penetration into the fabric that comes from super glue.
I prefer the better? penetration into the fabric that comes from super glue.