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26 front axle trouble

Post by mike37 cdn » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:25 pm

i am working on a 26 touring front axle problem is the axle is leaning to the rear of the car i know it has to lean to the front of the the bottom of the axle to the front just trying to see were the angle is built into the axle or is it built into the spring perches or the frame it steers so bad steering wheel always wants to always go to the left or right when going down the road i thing the axle is in backwards just want to make sure I am going about the right way thanks mike


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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Kerry » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:41 pm

No angle built into the axle, can go in both ways as long as you have the stub axles fitted on the right sides, the perche's have the angle, there is a left and a right in the perch.


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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Humblej » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:47 pm

The perches set the angle. The top of the perch has a little tab that is offset slightly, that tab should be on the back to set the correct angle.

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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by DanTreace » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:38 pm

This sketch tells the info too:

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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Allan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:43 am

As Frank says, the axle can simply be turned around so that the perches sit at the correct angle. You will need to check the spindles when this is done. The left side spindle has a right hand thread and the right hand spindle a left hand thread.

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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by mike37 cdn » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:54 am

thanks guys the spring perches are on the wrong side will be switching them back thanks again mike


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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Allan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:41 pm

Mike, the perches can be an absolute bear to remove. Can need lots of heat, a press and some judicious use of a BFH.

If you have to tale the axle out to remove them, it is often far easier and potentially less damaging to leave the perches where they are and swap the spindles when you turn the axle.

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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:10 am

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Here's a picture of what Jeff said. Tab goes toward the rear of the car. I agree with Allan, it's easier to turn the axle around than to switch the perches.
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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by fschrope » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:07 am

The wishbone is still the major controller of caster. Disconnect it from the pan and push it down and you'll see what I mean.


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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by John Codman » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:38 pm

fschrope is technically correct, but there is no adjustment of caster on a Model T that doesn't involve a gas wrench. The actual caster setting is built in through the perches.


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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by mike37 cdn » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:00 pm

they came out easy with a little heat and a 55 ton press

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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:45 pm

If pressing out a perch I fill the cotter hole with a piece of welding rod then put on the nut, flat side up. I've ruined perches pressing them out without that setup.
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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Allan » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:50 am

Neat trick Steve. Why didn't I think of that?
I can't get my head around removing the perches and swapping them end to end to get the axle orientation correct, when all that is needed is to undo the spindle bolts and swap the spindles.

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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:45 am

Alan

I think you do it when your scrap pile is running low and you have too much time on your hands.
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Re: 26 front axle trouble

Post by Erik Barrett » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:41 am

You are better off just swapping ends with the axle and leaving the perches alone. Now would be a good time to make sure your spindles are not on the wrong side also. That can be dangerous.

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