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Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by lump » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:21 pm

Hello, everyone, and thanks for allowing me to join Model T club forum.

My good friend and brother-in-law is trying to assemble a Model TT project truck for his friend and neighbor. Just now he was asking me about the lower steering column mount. I BELIEVE the lower mount is different for a Model TT than the normal one for a Model T. The truck he is assembling is supposed to be a 1927, but it is assembled from lots of various parts, so not sure.

Anyway, the steering column appears to be for a passenger car. Could someone kindly photograph a TT column installed in a truck, focusing on the lower mount? It would be a big help, and much appreciated!

Cheers! -----Lump


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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by Erik Barrett » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:32 pm

The TT part is different. It should have a TT part number on it. The difference is the angle between the frame and the column.


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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by hpetrino » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:23 pm

For clarity:

The bracket is different. I'm not sure if the angle is different than a regular T, but I do believe that the TT lower steering bracket compensates for the thicker TT chassis. Also, the wood block is a little different too, also because of the thicker chassis. The steering column itself is the same as a regular T.


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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by lump » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:16 am

Ahhh...now we're getting somewhere. My BIL started out with a bare frame, and has assembled parts as they have been provided to him. But I think he has a passenger car lower mounting bracket for the steering column. But now I am very interested to learn more about this "block of wood," that you mention. Does anyone have any photos or dimensions, etc?

Thanks HEAPS for any help you can offer.

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by Matt in California » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 am

Here is what I have. I am not sure if it is correct.
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I will let viewers determine if it is correct for TT.

Yes, I got this on a project car and the linkage is not Ford. I hope to replace it eventually.

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by Mark Nunn » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:59 am

This is the wood block. It goes inside the frame and a bolt in inserted through the outside of the frame, through the block and the hole in the side of the steering bracket. Matt's lower photo has a round spacer where the block should be.
https://www.modeltford.com/item/3546.aspx

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by One390 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 am

I have several spare lower TT brackets if you need one. You are on your own with the wood bock. Someone does sell the correct one I think. Either way you can cut it yourself as well.


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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by hpetrino » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:33 am

I'm pretty sure the wood block shown in the link posted by Mark is the one for a car. I THINK the TT block must be thicker to accommodate the greater thickness of the TT frame. It's been a long time since I had mine apart, but I believe I made one from a rough block of wood. My TT is at my son's ranch now, about 50 miles away. Maybe someone who has their TT nearby can measure their wood block and post the results for you.


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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by hpetrino » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:46 am

P.S. If you look at the item just below the steering block on the link I posted, you'll see the engine pan arm wood blocks. You'll need these too. However, there is disagreement in the ranks about the wisdom of using the engine pan blocks on a TT. Some think they excessively restrict chassis flex needed when carrying heavy loads. I put them in my truck.

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by Mark Gregush » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:00 am

If you look at the 2ed photo above, you will note if you look close, there is a metal cap with felt under it on the top. While not 100%, I think all TT used a bracket that did not have a built in place for the felt and used that cap type seal on the top end.
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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by RajoRacer » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:46 am

Mark is correct - the TT bracket utilized a felt & stamped steel cap which don't seem to be available.

I also have an abundance of extra TT lower brackets.

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by RajoRacer » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:47 am

And Matt - that is a correct TT lower bracket.

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Re: Need photo TT truck lower steering column mount

Post by George House » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:55 pm

And I have a bunch of TT lower steering column-to-frame brackets too... Let’s get the price war started !! 😜 😂
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