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Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Mark Osterman » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:01 pm

Am thinking about rebuilding the top on my ‘23 runabout. I have these pieces that were used to finish the ends of hidem welt. The top one was near the arm rest. Thinking one in the middle is model A rather than T. The bottom one was on the top trim.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by TonyB » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:06 pm

I have seen the style on the second picture on what I believe to be fairly original cars.
I don’t know a modern source.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by CudaMan » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:00 am

Here is some info from an older thread:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/11 ... 1284814659
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Original Smith » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:37 am

You have a lot of priming and sanding to do on that top one, I've done it, and to me it's worth it for a non obtainable part. It would be nice for someone that does stamping to be able to remake that part. If there is someone out there that can do it, I have a NOS spear to loan.

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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by TonyB » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:55 am

A friend contacted me with pictures of trim ends available from Macs. One looks very similar to the one I have previously seen on Ts.
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Apparently Macs has several other styles in their catalog.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Jim, Sr. » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:56 pm

These are photos of an original 1924 touring.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Original Smith » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:36 pm

Thanks Jim for posting. I can always rely on you to post important information with no guessing allowed!!


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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Mark Osterman » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:12 pm

Ok guys. So, it appears that I’m missing one of these. Anyone have one to spare that is as crappy as mine? 😀
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Post by Dropacent » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:30 pm

I have just one, a couple shades better. It’ll be in the mail. T
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Original Smith » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:25 am

Mark: When you get mine, you'll have an extra! Happy Thanksgiving!

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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by KWTownsend » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:46 pm

So, I would like a little more edjumacashion about these end pieces...

1) Is the end for the top the pointed end and the end for the armrest square the end?

2) Is the arrow-head shaped piece (finger pointing #1) the same as the rusty ends (#4 & #5 from the left) but the notches out of the corners?
2b) Could a #1 be made from a #4 or #5?

3) Was the non-notched type used? If so, when?

I presume these would only been used with the hide 'em welt used from about 1923-1925?

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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Mark Osterman » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:08 pm

Thanks Tim!


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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by d stroud » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:52 am

It looks to me like some of those that Tim posted could be made to look very close to an original with a bit of time and a Dremel with a cutoff wheel. Dave
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Original Smith » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:26 am

The problem with converting a common style spear to the Ford style is the Ford style is bigger. Yes, you can alter a common one to have the tails like a Ford one, but it still will not be correct. The Ford spear is wider from top to bottom.


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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces

Post by Original Smith » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:23 pm

The spears posted above as far as I know were only used by Ford. They can't be made from anything. If someone with a metal stamping business would be willing to make a die to stamp these, I'm sure it would be a big seller for the purists.

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