I need a lesson on E+J 666 head lamps

[Colin Mavins]

A pair of 666 lamps are on ebay , Seller said they are original three red flags . The mount to the fork are the right size but the locks are on the out side, all the pictures of original lamps both should open left to right. A original lamps should show so wear these look real straight . The other thing is only 3 pics and no back picture From what you see are these real or repro Thanks Colin

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[DanTreace]

Colin

While lacking expert know, they appear correct.

Sept/Oct 2018 Model T Times has photos of 2018 Stynoski winning 1911 torpedo with original E&J's that are opposite side opening (that is the doors hinge so they open toward the radiator and not into the fenders) , as the pair on eBay.

If an original set was removed and stored properly, cracks and wear could be minimal. And these seem to have been restored, as the interior is fresh black.

Do know that some reproductions have polished alum reflectors, not glass. The series of photos show all the insides, and these have glass reflectors and solder repairs to the door to hold in the glass may be original?

Link to eBay lamps:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-T-1911-1 ... :0&vxp=mtr

[KWTownsend]

Colin-
Those are reproduction lamps.
They have aluminum reflectors. Original have a glass mangin mirrors
They open with the hinges on the outside. Original have only left side hinge.
Original have iron brackets that have a this brass covering on them. Reproductions are solid brass.

Here is the inside of an original:

As far as reproduction lamps go, these look fine.
Nice, but not original.

: ^ )

[Rodger Erickson]

Interesting set of lamps.
These could be restored lamps or very nice originals - most of the details are correct, such as the screw that holds the mirror retaining clip on the bottom, and, if you look carefully at the picture of the light viewed from the front with the door open, you can faintly see the louver in the back of the smoke bonnet. The mounting brackets, with the set screws threaded from the back rather than from the inside, are usually seen on 1913-1914 Model "66" or "656" lights.
I suspect these are reproductions by Vic Billstrom. If so, they did not travel very far from the source, as his shop was in the San Bernardino area; this seller is from nearby Redlands.

[Colin Mavins]

Thank you most reproduction lamps you just know right from the start but these are hard to tell, Dad has collected over the years enough parts to keep the 12 running for about 75 years and spares of all the major stuff . I try to buy only original parts part of the fun is the hunt Thanks Colin

[Drkbp]

Keith,

Do you know if the E&J 466's have the same brass clad prop support like the 666's?