Low Head on a 26-27
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
-
Topic author - Posts: 1498
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:53 am
- First Name: Terry
- Last Name: Woods
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1927 Model T coupe, 1926 4 door sedan
- Location: Cibolo (San Antonio), TX
Low Head on a 26-27
Question : Can a 'low' head be used on an improved 26-27 with the water outlet mounted fan, without causing interference problems for the fan due to a slightly lower mounting position ?
-
- Posts: 4311
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:13 pm
- First Name: Wayne
- Last Name: Sheldon
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1915 Runabout 1913 Speedster
- Location: Grass Valley California, USA
- Board Member Since: 2005
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
There is almost no difference in the front neck mounting position. There may be some variation due to heads having been milled, some variation to minor casting shifts from the factory, however, I have yet to see a significant variation based upon early low heads versus the more common high heads.
About ten years ago, this subject came up. I had three late brass era low heads, loose, not on an engine. And I had three common later high heads, one a no script head (either replacement or I am told used by the factory in 1927?).
I put all six heads on a cleared off smooth work table, and slid them around butting the outlets against each other in every conceivable combination.
I had one low head that was about 1/8 lower than any other, however, it clearly had been milled excessively. And I had one low head that was a tiny amount higher than any of the high heads (less than a 1/16 higher).
On a few occasions since, I have double-checked myself, because this idea keeps coming around. All mine are still all very close to the same height.
The low head water jacket may be "lower", however, the hump running up to the outlet on a low head is much higher than that is on the high heads.
About ten years ago, this subject came up. I had three late brass era low heads, loose, not on an engine. And I had three common later high heads, one a no script head (either replacement or I am told used by the factory in 1927?).
I put all six heads on a cleared off smooth work table, and slid them around butting the outlets against each other in every conceivable combination.
I had one low head that was about 1/8 lower than any other, however, it clearly had been milled excessively. And I had one low head that was a tiny amount higher than any of the high heads (less than a 1/16 higher).
On a few occasions since, I have double-checked myself, because this idea keeps coming around. All mine are still all very close to the same height.
The low head water jacket may be "lower", however, the hump running up to the outlet on a low head is much higher than that is on the high heads.
-
- Posts: 823
- Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:06 pm
- First Name: Ed
- Last Name: Fuller
- Location: NJ
- Board Member Since: 2012
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
Here is a side by side comparison. The low head has been milled at some point in the past. Just as Wayne said, there really is no difference in the mounting position of the outlet.
-
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:23 pm
- First Name: Jeff
- Last Name: Humble
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Canadian coupe, 1924 TT C-cab, 1924 runabout
- Location: Charlevoix, Mi
- Board Member Since: 2006
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
Terry,
A high head is to provide more volume for coolant, why would you want to put on a low head?
A high head is to provide more volume for coolant, why would you want to put on a low head?
-
- Posts: 4906
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:24 pm
- First Name: john
- Last Name: karvaly
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 14/15 wide track roadster. 23 touring, 27 roadster pickup, 20ish rajo touring
- Location: orange, ca
- Board Member Since: 2020
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
High head is 3.97-1. Low head is 4.2-1. That little bit of difference is not worth the using when factoring the lower cooling capacity IMHO.
I would strongly recommend spending the money for a Prus head if you want a noticeable power/speed difference.
26-7 heads were slightly less compression than earlier high heads due to poor fuel quality @ the time.
I would strongly recommend spending the money for a Prus head if you want a noticeable power/speed difference.
26-7 heads were slightly less compression than earlier high heads due to poor fuel quality @ the time.
-
- Posts: 7775
- Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:08 pm
- First Name: Pat
- Last Name: McNallen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926-7 roadster
- Location: Graham, Texas
- Board Member Since: 2021
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
The low head would require shorter head bolts. Weren't the earlier head bolts smaller than the later ones?
-
- Posts: 5423
- Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm
- First Name: Mark
- Last Name: Gregush
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 cutdown PU, 1948 F2 Ford flat head 6 pickup 3 speed
- Location: Portland Or
- Board Member Since: 1999
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
Only very early like 1909/09 (3/8"?) then were standardized to 7/16". Length was changed when the high head came out.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
1925 Cut down pickup
1948 Ford F2 pickup

1925 Cut down pickup
1948 Ford F2 pickup
-
- Posts: 7775
- Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:08 pm
- First Name: Pat
- Last Name: McNallen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926-7 roadster
- Location: Graham, Texas
- Board Member Since: 2021
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
A shaved head and the overbores typical today would probably get you about the same compression increase. Modern rings would probably help gain some compression pressure by reason of better sealing over a wider operating range. Modern oil might help a little, too. Back in the day, many Ts ran with heavy carbon deposits, and some may have achieved pretty good compression pressures at lower operating speeds.
-
- Posts: 6373
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
- First Name: Frank
- Last Name: Brandi
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedsters (1919 w 1926 upgrades), 1926 (Ricardo Head)
- Location: Moline IL
- Board Member Since: 2018
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
Not much difference in the later stock heads 4.0 vs 3.8.
- Attachments
-
- compression ratios.png (105.87 KiB) Viewed 201 times
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger
Mick Jagger
-
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm
- First Name: Norman
- Last Name: Kling
- Location: Alpine California
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
On one of the T's I have came with a low head when I bought it. Still on it. It also has a low radiator. I have had no overheating problem. If the water passages inside the head and block are kept clean and you run antifreeze all year around, even in Southern California, don't have any problems with it. I always use 50=50 antifreeze and or distilled water, because of hard water from our well which will fill things with lime and calcium deposits.
Norm
Norm
-
Topic author - Posts: 1498
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:53 am
- First Name: Terry
- Last Name: Woods
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1927 Model T coupe, 1926 4 door sedan
- Location: Cibolo (San Antonio), TX
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
Jeff, John, Pat, Mark, and Frank, I was asking because I have a high compression REEDER aluminum low head I wanted to try. I know I'll have to use 'low' head bolts.
Last edited by ModelTWoods on Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.
-
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:23 pm
- First Name: Jeff
- Last Name: Humble
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Canadian coupe, 1924 TT C-cab, 1924 runabout
- Location: Charlevoix, Mi
- Board Member Since: 2006
Re: Low Head on a 26-27
OK, good to know, because everyone has been addressing the fit of a Ford stock low head.