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Question on a spring spreader

Post by LittleTimmy52 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:43 pm

I need to do some more shenanigans on my rear suspension again. This time though I don't have access to the tools and shop i was able to borrow and hence can't replicate the janky definitely not OSHA approved method for spreading the springs. Would this model a spreader from Snyder's work on my 17 t? It's up there in my price range but I am no fabricator and I pay the price for lacking that skill.
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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by big2bird » Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:50 pm

I just use two blocks of wood.


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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by speedytinc » Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:53 pm

You don't need a spreader on a model T. Actually makes the job harder.
Using jacks & 2x4's under the leaf ends & Lifting against the body's weight will lengthen the spring to install the shackles.
My preferred method is to attach the perches first. Guide the perch stud into the backing plates. Pull home with the big castle nuts.


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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by LittleTimmy52 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:32 pm

Wood might do it but I tried before and had no luck, though I think the blocks I used were too short. Side question, is that not bad for the axle all that weight?


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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by speedytinc » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:04 pm

LittleTimmy52 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:32 pm
Wood might do it but I tried before and had no luck, though I think the blocks I used were too short. Side question, is that not bad for the axle all that weight?
Use one jack on each side. (2 jacks) Or.......
I have A cradle I made that goes into my floor jack. Arms extend to either side to lift the axle by the end backing plate castings @ the same time.
Do not lift by the center pumpkin only.
Not that it wont work, but you will develop a gear lube leak & possibly bend the tubes.

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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:12 pm

With the rear wheels off, loosen the perch nuts enough to relax the shackles. You should be able to leave the loose perches in the backing plates. There should be no need for blocks or a spreader.
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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by CudaMan » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:20 pm

Here's how I did it when I installed my Ruckstell. Loosened the nuts on the spring perches, then used wood blocks to guide the spring eyes close enough to the perches to allow the shackles to slide in. Once the shackles were in, I re-tightened the spring perches. :)
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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by RajoRacer » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:31 pm

I made one out of a 16" piece of 1/2" iron pipe, a 6" piece of 1/2" all thread, a couple 1/2" nuts & flat washers & a 1/2" coupler - grind down one end of the pipe just enough to go over one of the punkin bolts, heat up and flatten one end of the 1/2" coupler, insert the flattened coupler under the spring eye, insert all thread into the pipe, thread out the nuts until snug then wrench away to the desired length to insert the opposite shackle - I attach one shackle first then use the tool for the other side - I'll take a photo later.


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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:00 pm

"CudaMan's" set-up is "spot-on". It can sometimes be slightly ticklish to find the sweet spot, where the spring is neither pushing nor pulling on the shackles to where you can slip the shackles in/out.


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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by Altair » Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:56 pm

I used some big U bolts around the frame and the spring and pulled it into place.

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Re: Question on a spring spreader

Post by Humblej » Mon Dec 01, 2025 4:06 pm

A spreader is not needed. The Ford Service Manual will show how to do it with wood blocks.

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