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Touring roof irons

Post by johnernst » Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:09 pm

Does anyone have any experience with these aftermarket roof irons in picture 1? I have a set of these as per pic 2 below.
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However it seems mine did not come with all the hardware such as the support bar and the hook brackets. Does anyone have any detailed drawings showing the dimensions of the support bars and position and placement of these so that the top extends correctly. If I cant find some used ones I may have to make them.
The 4th pic is one that shows this style of top iron that is attached together and then extends from there into a "V" All the other pics of roof irons Ive found show the iron extending towards the rear with a shorter iron extending about 12" up as per the 3rd photo
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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by pete eastwood » Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:49 pm

what year is your car ?
The first photo is the 1923 - 1925 style
the second photo looks more like 1921- 1922 style.

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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by Humblej » Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:18 am

Picture no 2 is not a one man top. Does your car have body hardware for a one man top or a two man top? A two man top will have brackets on the front seat armrest for the front 1/2 of the top irons to attach to when in the up position. I do not know Canadian tourings, but if you have a straight up windshield and two man top brackets on the front seat, you have the right top irons. If you have a slant windshield and no brackets on the front armrest you probably have the wrong top irons.


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by John kuehn » Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:34 am

A good photo of your car would help in identifying what year your car is and where it was made.


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by johnernst » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:03 pm

Hers a couple pics of my car. Its titled as a Canadian 1922 as its got 4 doors. Its got a slant windshield. Top iron posts only on the rear armrests and nothing on the front armrests.
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The roof irons I got were the oval style as per this pic but they were badly rotted
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so I got these reproduction 1922 ones but they are missing the hardware.
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So now Im not sure whether I should just try and resurrect the original irons I got and go with the curved bows ar whether I should use the reproduction ones (pic posted earlier) and try to get or make hardware for them. As a new model T owner im sorry if I seem stupid but its hard to wrap my head around all these changes to cars that remained largely unchanged over their lifespan. TIA John

PS I finally have the hang of how to post pics and place them in the appropriate place on my posts. That should make life easier.


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by pete eastwood » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:27 pm

Your car has the 1923 / 1925 style body.
Neither of the sets of bows you have are correct.
One of your sets is for a 1922, the others don't appear to be for a Ford.
You need to locate a set for the 1923 to 1925 body, like in the very first picture you posted .


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by johnernst » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:44 pm

Update: I now have a set of top irons available as below. Does anyone have an opinion on these and whether I should use these ones?
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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by Humblej » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:04 pm

From the picture they look restorable. They are touring one man top irons.


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:23 pm

Canadian cars used different top bows than the US cars. Your original set, with oval sockets, may be the correct Canadian bows. That's not to say that the US style would not work however.


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by John kuehn » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:08 pm

I don’t have a one man top touring 23-25 but I have a 2 man top 21 Touring.
That being said I did have a set of windshield posts for the 23-25 1 man top Tourings.

As I remember they had 2 holes on each windshield post and not 3 that your car windshield posts have.

Looking close at the pictures posted of the two man top earlier T’s and the 1 man top 23-25 T’s you can see that the windshield posts on your car are a little different. They appear to be taller. But that may be a design for the Canadian cars. Maybe some one who has a Canadian Touring can give you better advice. Hope this helps you. But do notice the differences of the windshield posts before you spend time and effort looking for bows and a top.


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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by johnernst » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:26 pm

Thanks to everyone who replied. I do have another set of windshield posts that only have the 2 holes in them as Ive never seen the 3 hole ones anywhere else so I thought they may be wrong. I will double check the height of the 2 styles. Im going to get the latest set of irons and restore those and hopefully they will fit. Im trying to order a roof from Classtique but I will have to wait until I get this sorted out.
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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by John kuehn » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:58 pm

This earlier post about Touring top comparisons might help. http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/82 ... 1532315769

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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:24 pm

Canadian slant windshield post are different then US. The bottom half swings too as I recall.
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Re: Touring roof irons

Post by John kuehn » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:50 pm

Here’s a Canadian T article that has specific Canadian T info. https://modeltfordfix.com/model-t-fords ... da-part-1/

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