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Top bows...

Post by Couchsachraga » Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:20 pm

2 bow sets (for lack of a better term) came along with my '24 Roadster snowmobile - I'm not sure if either of them are "correct", but I would like to match the year as best I can and hope to order the fabric portion soon.

I noticed once set has an extra bar. I"m not sure if the other is missing it, or if they are completely different styles. Any idea what I happen to have? I call them the "Black set " (all black") and "red set" (this is the set with the cross- bar; unfortunately one of the wood bows is broken).

Thank you very much!
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Re: Top bows...

Post by Jack Putnam, in Ohio » Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:23 pm

Not the best pictures but I think the red set is roadster. Other set may be incomplete.


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Re: Top bows...

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:24 am

The set on the right should be the correct one. The one on the left is for earlier cars.

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Re: Top bows...

Post by Humblej » Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:50 am

I will give a different answer. None of the bows are correct for a 1924 runabout. Set on the right are some of the pieces for a touring top.


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Re: Top bows...

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:01 am

Humblej wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:50 am
I will give a different answer. None of the bows are correct for a 1924 runabout. Set on the right are some of the pieces for a touring top.
Jeff,

Where would the missing 4th bow attach in order for this to be for a Touring?

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Re: Top bows...

Post by DanTreace » Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:15 am

Adam

Use these pictures to help you measure those irons and the shape and length of each pair of the 3 irons on a '23-'25 roadster top. The front irons are left and right.



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As mounted with wood bows in place and fitted to the body.




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And here is a pic of a complete set 23-25 roadster with top cover shambles but showing construction of the wood bows to the 3 pairs of irons together as a set.

1923 runabaout top assembly.jpg
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Re: Top bows...

Post by Couchsachraga » Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:42 am

Thank you very much! I'll let you know what I figure out:)

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Re: Top bows...

Post by JTT3 » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:01 pm

Jerry is right on the set to the left is earlier maybe 17-22 if roadster. The set on the right are not model T roadster. I’ve never seen a support strip on model T roadsters with the exception of very early Roadster / runabouts that may have knuckle supports. Dans pictures & measurements are on point. All that said without a picture of your vehicle showing your cab & windshield no one can really say because so many Ts have misidentified years than what they actually are.


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Re: Top bows...

Post by Couchsachraga » Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:07 pm

Here are slightly better images (I think!). From what you all have shared I’m fairly certainly neither of these are correct tops for a ‘24 Roadster, and one of them may not even be to a Model T…. The fellow I purchased it from had about 30 pre-war cars at one point… I’m thinking perhaps these were just stored on the bed. I’ll have to start keeping my eye out for a set of irons / bows I guess. I hope to have the Snowmobile out tomorrow; if I do I’ll post an image up:)

Thank you all for the assistance!
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Re: Top bows...

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:51 am

You don't have it arranged correctly. Move the pinned end of the front bow from where it is and place it in the hooked bracket as shown. The position you have it in now is where it goes only when the top is down.
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